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Posted on 12/27/23 at 1:54 pm to 11and18gggchamp
Posted on 12/27/23 at 1:54 pm to 11and18gggchamp
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And this is where college football has gone...a top player, A TEAM CAPTAIN, leaving to get money
Were you this mad and outspoken when Landon Dickinson left FSU to join us?
How about every other time we have used transfers or the portal to fill our need with an immediate starter or impact player?
Did you have the same disgust?
Posted on 12/27/23 at 1:58 pm to YStar
Posted on 12/27/23 at 2:33 pm to YStar
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Were you this mad and outspoken when Landon Dickinson left FSU to join us?
How about every other time we have used transfers or the portal to fill our need with an immediate starter or impact player?
Did you have the same disgust?
Even setting aside the fact that Dickerson was a grad transfer who came over after a coaching change, which isn't a comparable situation to what has transpired with the portal the last couple of years, this is such a fricking ridiculous attempt at some "gotcha" bullshite. Only children and morons are incapable of understanding that not everything that benefits you personally is a good thing. All but a handful of teams having their best players poached every single offseason is objectively bad for college athletics. Period. Full stop. End of conversation.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:09 pm to Robot Santa
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Only children and morons are incapable of understanding that not everything that benefits you personally is a good thing.
Only children cry about it only when it doesn't benefit them.
That was my actual point.
People seem okay with it as long as it benefits them but get mad when someone wants accountability and points out the times it doesn't.
I don't see the venom and downvotes for LT Overton. I don't seem them when we're discussing other targets we want to bring in either.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:21 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
quote:We just aren’t throwing out bags like Ole Miss.
On3 says Alabama is not a likely option for Evan Stewart right now:
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:24 pm to Sebastian
Domani Jackson with Trey Amos would be a nice CB duo for next year
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:50 pm to YStar
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I don't see the venom and downvotes for LT Overton. I don't seem them when we're discussing other targets we want to bring in either.
You seriously see "venom" in this statement?
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And this is where college football has gone...a top player, A TEAM CAPTAIN, leaving to get money
Seriously? That's not a personal criticism of that kid. It's a simple and, if we're being honest, accurate observation about the current state of the sport. Just because Alabama currently benefits from a bad set of rules doesn't foreclose any criticism of those rules by Alabama fans. And yet again you're using an example of a kid whose coach got fired when those situations are not what anyone complains about regarding the current status of the portal and eligibility waivers.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:02 pm to mistaken4193
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Domani Jackson with Trey Amos would be a nice CB duo for next year
USC fans says he isn't a good football player just a good athlete. I'd rather see what Ricks can do
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:17 pm to Robot Santa
I wasn't only speaking specifically of only that comment; it was merely a reference point.
We have an entire theme with our fanbase where we attempt to act holier than thou and need to believe we don't pay players or pay them that much or players who transfer to us only do it for the right reason or or or... in the end we are above reproach because we do things the "right way".
It's bullshite.
In the end we benefit greatly from this system and when we do people aren't talking about lost loyalty or kids being paid; they just want the player and celebrate when we get them. It is what it is, don't sugar coat it or cope-explain it because that's hypocrisy
We have an entire theme with our fanbase where we attempt to act holier than thou and need to believe we don't pay players or pay them that much or players who transfer to us only do it for the right reason or or or... in the end we are above reproach because we do things the "right way".
It's bullshite.
In the end we benefit greatly from this system and when we do people aren't talking about lost loyalty or kids being paid; they just want the player and celebrate when we get them. It is what it is, don't sugar coat it or cope-explain it because that's hypocrisy
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:21 pm to Tide or Die87
Don't trust USC fans. Would be happy to see Ricks work out though. Domani is tough because the extended highlights of USC I watched he seemed to be strong in man to man and knew team coverage concepts. Wasn't getting beat like others members of the secondary. The worrisome part is that he didn't look to rally to the ball well, or support the run well. Couldn't tell if he wants to tackle. It was a red flag but not sure if he was just has poor coaching and defeated due to the crap show around him or if he is a low effort player.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:21 pm to YStar
Can someone give me a breakdown about why Auburn is so excited and how we’re getting our butts beat or whatever? Explain the recruits and what happened and may still happen please? I’m not good at following recruiting which I know you guys are experts about. TIA and sorry if this sounds stupid.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:33 pm to Carlton
That's wild. Coming out of high school I thought that was a strength of his.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:58 pm to _Hurricane_
Our class is rated higher than theirs so no idea what you mean. They’ll win some recruiting battles and we’ll win more. Same as it’s been since they were API
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:09 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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On3 says Alabama is not a likely option for Evan Stewart right now:
Could be money issues, could be character red flags. Guy just flat sat out games this year.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:16 pm to Sandkhan
We are rated #2. #1 last year, #2 the year before when Texas A&M went crazy with the NIL and #1 the year before that.
Have you noticed that the big spenders are not continuing to spend big if they don't see an immediate payback?
These NIL donors want immediate wins on the field for their money.
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't we doing a better job of retaining our roster? How many kids are we losing to the NIL? How many is GA losing this year?
I know it's not over, but if we are keeping kids with promise that just need a bit more development and seasoning, then we are not going to be spending alot if money around in the portal.
I would rather keep ours with one ot two exceptions a year.
Have you noticed that the big spenders are not continuing to spend big if they don't see an immediate payback?
These NIL donors want immediate wins on the field for their money.
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't we doing a better job of retaining our roster? How many kids are we losing to the NIL? How many is GA losing this year?
I know it's not over, but if we are keeping kids with promise that just need a bit more development and seasoning, then we are not going to be spending alot if money around in the portal.
I would rather keep ours with one ot two exceptions a year.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:25 pm to YStar
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We have an entire theme with our fanbase where we attempt to act holier than thou and need to believe we don't pay players or pay them that much or players who transfer to us only do it for the right reason or or or... in the end we are above reproach because we do things the "right way".
This only exists in your mind and maybe on Twitter. Everyone with the sense God gave a rock knows that we are involved in NIL pay for play and probably some occasional tampering just like everyone else. Saban has managed to stay on top for so long in part because of how good he is at exploiting bad rules, so no one who has been following Alabama football for very long is under the illusion that he has suddenly decided not to try to exploit these out of principle. The difference between us and programs like Aggy and Miami (OM is still TBD) when it comes to NIL is just that we aren't nearly as stupid with how we spend our money.
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In the end we benefit greatly from this system and when we do people aren't talking about lost loyalty or kids being paid; they just want the player and celebrate when we get them. It is what it is, don't sugar coat it or cope-explain it because that's hypocrisy
"I do not care for these rules and think they need to change, but at least if they exist they benefit me" is not an inconsistent position to take. It may not pass some arbitrary moral purity test, but that's about it. Hypocrisy would be saying that these rules are a good thing when they benefit us and a bad thing when they benefit someone else. No one is saying that though. People are literally wanting the rules to change, for everyone , knowing that it would have a negative effect on us. I don't know what is so difficult to unpack here.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:36 pm to Robot Santa
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This only exists in your mind and maybe on Twitter.
Literally have a poster on this page saying we aren't throwing a bag around like Ole Miss.
This stuff is everywhere and no amount of misplaced aggression or insults you hurl at me changes that lol.
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Saban has managed to stay on top for so long in part because of how good he is at exploiting bad rules, so no one who has been following Alabama football for very long is under the illusion that he has suddenly decided not to try to exploit these out of principle. The difference between us and programs like Aggy and Miami (OM is still TBD) when it comes to NIL is just that we aren't nearly as stupid with how we spend our money.
Nice strawman but I never argued against this. In fact that is my point, we benefit from this system.
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No one is saying that though
Did you miss all the bellyaching from the rant to this thread about Ole Miss and Auburn spending big to buy players?
Do they have the same stance while we do the same thing? No. There are no comments about spending the most, player loyalty, etc..
You can pretend this isn't happening or doesn't exist but it does. Then again you're probably perfectly fine with the mentality that when we do it, it is right and when others do it, it is wrong.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:50 pm to YStar
Broadcast for this OSU A&M game mentioned we are in on Ollie Gordon in the transfer portal. Anyone know if that's something bama has gone after
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:55 pm to Kcstills17
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Broadcast for this OSU A&M game mentioned we are in on Ollie Gordon in the transfer portal. Anyone know if that's something bama has gone after
Ollie Gordon isn't in the portal.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:11 pm to YStar
My disgust is with how the college game has gone straight money. Starters and Captains leaving to simply look for money. No desire to stay with the team you signed with. It's a sad state for college football. Not sure why this bothered you enough to come at me about what Bama does. They use the same system. I was critical of the system at this point.
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