re: Class of 2017 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Say Your Goodbyes Edition

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He's still a 5-star on Scout.

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Barton, lets talk about Tua.

He measured in a 6'0 1/4".

Is that first round projectable?

He ran for -134 yards his senior season.

Is that a dual threat QB?

He threw for 90 less yards per game than Fromm in a significantly easier high school league.

He didn't run with the first string from Tuesday's practice on at the all star game. He was the third string QB at the game. During the game, he did not perform in any impressive ways. He looked like a lumberjack trying to run the ball.

You seriously just made a 6' "dual threat" QB who ran for negative yards his senior year and wasn't even the best QB on his own all star team a 5 star QB who you project to be a future 1st round draft pick.

I guess now is the time where you say he looked good in his tshirt and shorts and he has big hands.

Tua is the poster child for the total failure to provide legitimate justification Bama bump.

We measured Tua at 6-0 and 3/4
We measured Fromm at 6-1 and 1/4

If you want to argue that Tua is too short to be a five-star that's fine but Fromm has him by no more than a half inch so that's not much of a discrepancy.

I don't agree with your assessment of who was the best QB on his own all-star team but I do think Jake Fromm is a really good qb.

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I'll try one more time

"He's so effortless and such a smooth glider that it's hard to really grasp how athletic this kid is. There isn't a receiver in this class with the physical tools and complete package of Peoples-Jones."

Can you explain saying this, then dropping him 18 spots and losing the #1 WR spot? What elevated Ruggs so high, and over DPJ?

Peoples-Jones has the best physical skillset in terms of size/speed combo but Ruggs was the more explosive playmaker over the last year. Side by side in Army, we felt Ruggs was better

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Not sure why anyone cares about Bartons QB rankings he is the worst in the industry at that position. With Kizer, Trubisky and Watson likely being the only 1st round QBs he'll be 0-11 on QBs. Bartons just praying Jerrod Heard, Will Grier, David Cornwell all pan out he liked all three better than Watson. Loved Gunner Kiel, Max Browne, Blake Barnett....you should actually worry if he does rank your QB a 5-star.

I know it's easy to just throw this kind of stuff out there and hope it sticks but I'll go ahead and bite.

It's only been the last two or three years that i've had the final say on rankings. Before that I was just a voice in the room.

Grier, Heard and Cornwell weren't five-stars for us so not sure why you bring them up. I was pretty open and vocal about not liking Cornwell, I never liked Heard and I was fairly indifferent on our Will Grier ranking. Grier was ranked 66th by us (lower than the composite) and that ranking is still tracking to be fairly accurate.

Kiel wasn't my guy but I was ok with him being a five-star so that was a miss. After the Elite 11 that year I said I felt Jameis should be a contender for No. 1 in the country. As I said, i was just a voice then. I got overruled. We still had him inside our Top32 and our 2nd QB.

Browne is fair to call a miss assuming he doesn't shock us all at Pitt.

Barnett, we probably got wrong as I was part of the 3/4ths of the recruiting industry that had him as a 5-star. However he could still pan out too, he just got beat out by the true freshman that I had ranked higher than anybody else.

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