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re: Charlie Strong was in Tuscaloosa Thursday
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:41 pm to secuniversity
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:41 pm to secuniversity
Sounds like he may be staying
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And there you go, Charlie Potter saying they expect Strong to join our staff in an off field role (though not confirmed to be a done deal yet)
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
AKA get your shite together Pete because if you don't this guy is waiting in the wings to take your job.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Quite a few of you guys have been talking about Charlie Strong popping up in Tuscaloosa. While we have not confirmed it's a done deal, we expect Strong to join the Alabama football staff in an off-the-field role. The former Louisville, Texas and USF head coach brings a wealth of defensive knowledge to the program. -- Charlie Potter, BOL
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Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Pretty great hire to have that guy helping with gameplans and scouting
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yep, really cool to see him join the staff. Class-act. Would love to see him still be with us in 2022 when we play Texas. It would be fun watching us stomp Texas with him on staff.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:51 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Yep, really cool to see him join the staff. Class-act.
Yea - that's the kind of guy you want around the office and around your young coaches.
It's all set up for Pete this year. He's got experienced players, new athletic freshmen toys, a bunch of help in prep work..........time to kick arse.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 12:54 pm to CrimsonBoz
I don’t know when it will happen, but I think Strong will eventually be the DC. Don’t believe it will happen during the regular season though
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:00 pm to Cobrasize
But Strong is a career 3-3-5. Isn’t he?
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:01 pm to Ted2010
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He’s still in Tuscaloosa according to Suttles
Saban don't let him leave without a job.
If Golding continues underwhelming, we can have Strong take playcalling duties like Golding took over for Tosh.
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:02 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But Strong is a career 3-3-5. Isn’t he?
I don't care if he runs a 4-6 Bear. Hire him NOW
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:03 pm to YStar
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If Golding continues underwhelming, we can have Strong take playcalling duties like Golding took over for Tosh.
Couldn’t happen like that. It would have to be like Kiffin to Sarkisian.
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:03 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Yea, I believe so.
This is just my stupid opinion, but I would guess that Strong is a very good teacher and might be more natural with playcalling and adjustments.
Not a knock on Pete, because I don’t know if it was because of the youth on the team or Golding, but it seems like we had to wait until the second half to adjust in a bunch of games. Again, I’m not blaming Pete, because it very well could have been youth
This is just my stupid opinion, but I would guess that Strong is a very good teacher and might be more natural with playcalling and adjustments.
Not a knock on Pete, because I don’t know if it was because of the youth on the team or Golding, but it seems like we had to wait until the second half to adjust in a bunch of games. Again, I’m not blaming Pete, because it very well could have been youth
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:03 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But Strong is a career 3-3-5. Isn’t he?
Yep - born out of the 3-4........
Birth of the 3-3-5 Defense
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Although the 3-3-5 seemed like a wholly new strategy, it didn’t just occur to Charlie Strong out of the blue. The scheme was a natural variant from a defense he coached in another venue under Holtz: Bob Davie’s 3-4 defenses at Notre Dame.
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For Strong, the 3-3-5 was just Bob Davie’s disrupting 3-4 mixed with some of the newest and best of the NFL’s defenses — essentially an all-the-time nickel package. The defense was designed for a team that didn’t have the personnel to use an extra defensive lineman and would benefit from stacking its linebackers in order to protect them from potential blockers.
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There are different styles of 3-3, and Strong’s was of the attacking variety. On just about every snap, his linemen were instructed to attack a gap — the space between offensive linemen — and get into the backfield to make things generally unpleasant for offenses. This is an important difference between the 3-3-5 and the 3-4. The traditional 3-4 is a two-gap defense, which means that the defensive linemen typically line up “heads up” on the offensive linemen and are responsible for the gaps to either side. This leaves the linebackers free to roam. In the 3-3-5, there are more stunts, and usually at least one linebacker is rushing. This means each player ends up responsible for one specific gap, though the player’s specific responsibility will change from play to play. The 3-3-5 is designed to make both pass protection and run schemes (particularly zone-blocking schemes that heavily rely on double-team blocks) difficult to the point of futility. The linebackers have varying assignments, from blitz to coverage, but they are still responsible for gaps. One important benefit of this type of defense is that it simplifies assignments for players: attack your gap and make a play.
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But in the age of pass-first and spread offenses, the principles underlying it — movement, disguise, aggressiveness, and an extreme focus on speed — are more important than ever.
As the league has changed and we have changed the personnel we recruit.........I'm curious if this is just a "he is a good football coach and we want as many of those as we can find" or if it is also a bit of "we already play what is essentially a lot of 3-3-5 out of nickel, this guy can add some wrinkles and some new ideas to how to do that more effectively".
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:07 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But Strong is a career 3-3-5. Isn’t he?
Our "nickel" defense is 3-3-5 personnel, which we now run more than the 3-4-4 "base". "Slot DB" or "nickel DB" replaces SAM OLB.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:09 pm to TidalSurge1
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So is our "nickel" defense that we now run more than the 3-4-4 "base".
Yep - exactly. And that is exactly where his 3-3-5 concepts came from - the nickel subpackage of the 3-4 from Bob Davie.
Interesting stuff.
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:11 pm to TidalSurge1
I realize that. But I’m more interested in the differences of the nuances in the two schemes.
George posted some of that.
George posted some of that.
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:11 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I realize that. But I’m more interested in the differences of the nuances in the two schemes.
George posted some of that.
Here is another article from the USF 247 site that is a bit more recent
Breaking Down Charlie Strong's 3-3-5 Defense : Bulls247
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The main thing to understand about this defense is it is a 4-3/3-3 hybrid that uses the linebackers to flip from coverage and blitzing. Their’s a major importance placed on both the secondary and front three to be efficient and athletic.
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The Nose Tackle:
The main job here for the nose tackle is not so much getting to the ball carrier, but rather to force some sort of a double team though penetration. The point to take is here that this Nose tackle has to constantly be pushing through the A gap in some form whether it be through stunts or straight bull rush, this player needs to create enough havoc in the front to consistently draw two offensive lineman. I think consistent substitutions would be needed to be best here, but the effort needs to be consistent.
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Strongside defensive end:
Their instruction is typically to keep contain as well as pushing the offensive lineman into a certain direction to open for a stunt. The necessity is fast off the edge and strong enough to create a pass rush as well.
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Fox/Edge Player:
Here’s where the flip from a 4-3 to a 3-3 happens for the defense. Strong can choose whether to give himself another edge rusher through another weak side defensive end or he can have a regular linebacker in to either blitz or be in coverage.
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Inside Linebackers:
They need to provide speed up the middle and in the zone to fulfill their duties.
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The Secondary:
The secondary consist of two safeties, two corners and a traditional nickel safety. The most important thing for the secondary is speed, the players must cover gaps as well as filling the alley on pass coverage and running plays. The nickel spot is key because defenses with good passing attacks will focus in on the nickel and test him all game if they feel like they have a speed advantage.
The biggest thing for the cornerbacks is keeping contain and now allowing to get beat deep. The safeties are roaming the middle and also on occasion providing a blitz assignment, so the corners have to hold their own for the defense to work.
The Main job for the secondary is to hold their own ship down, while the others invade. The point of attack for Strong’s defense is by causing havoc at the line of scrimmage, the offense will be forced into a mistake whether it be getting stuffed or be forced to make a quick decision that the secondary reacts quickly to and flies to the ball.
This post was edited on 2/14/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 2/14/20 at 1:12 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But Strong is a career 3-3-5. Isn’t he?
Which is basically playing the nickel in a 3-4.
We pretty much stay in nickel so it isn't that much of a change and I'm sure Strong isn't ao narrow-minded he can't adapt his scheme to his personnel.
If he can't, we shouldn't be hiring him.
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