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re: Boz please help us Bams understand what is going on in Ttown
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:20 pm to YStar
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:20 pm to YStar
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Tua is exactly the same player. Still forcing balls downfield, still ignoring checks, holding the ball forever trying to throw TDs each snap.
Don't do this.
Tua has excelled just about all season. No one was complaining about Tua's mentality when we were winning games. No need to pile on like he's been a bum all season over 2 tough games vs two very good defenses
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Still relying mainly on his pre-snap look of the opposition coverage
What elite QB doesn't do this? Why do you think the offense did as good it did? Isnt this what many complained Jalen didn't do for 2 whole seasons?
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then getting stunned (and intercepted) when they switch their coverage after he snaps the ball.
It happens. He's a true Sophmore and now sees how teams with play him. Im pretty confident he will learn and get better
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:23 pm to MrBiriwa
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Don't do this. Tua has excelled just about all season. No one was complaining about Tua's mentality when we were winning games. No need to pile on like he's been a bum all season over 2 tough games vs two very good defenses
YStar has complained about Tua not taking what the defense gives him for awhile, at least since the Miss St game.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:29 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
I found the Tosh/Golding pairing odd because they are both so young. I thought their pairing was a tryout for both of them to see who would become the sole DC. From the outside looking in it seemed Tosh had more to overcome because he hadn't been a DC before this past season.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:30 pm to MrBiriwa
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It happens. He's a true Sophmore and now sees how teams with play him. Im pretty confident he will learn and get better
I think Tua will be just fine. The offense will be better with another offseason. It’s the rebound defensively. A lot of loss there. We always reload just fine, but it does have me worried on that side of the ball.
Should be able to score at will again. Obviously the title game wasn’t a good example of that though.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:33 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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YStar has complained about Tua not taking what the defense gives him for awhile, at least since the Miss St game.
And he's right, too. Tua is a phenomenal talent, and I'm tickled to death he's our QB for at least one more year.
He made some frustratingly bad decisions, though, and it seemed to begin in the MSU game. Whether it was Heisman pressure, or wanting to score quickly, or a lack of adjustment to defensive schemes, he stopped doing one of the things that made him most dangerous: quickly hitting the check-down receiver if his first read was covered. We were almost impossible to stop when he did that.
It's not a coincidence that he threw four interceptions in his last three games, after throwing only one the rest of the year.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:41 pm to VATIDE17
So their you have it sports fans.....
Nick needs to shake all the trees in the complex and the locker room. If all Tosh can do is recruit then either cut him out of the DC title and place him back as a position coach. If that's not good enough for Tosh then let him leave. It's possible he's one seat above his ability much like Mike Dubose was at the U of A.
Nick needs to shake all the trees in the complex and the locker room. If all Tosh can do is recruit then either cut him out of the DC title and place him back as a position coach. If that's not good enough for Tosh then let him leave. It's possible he's one seat above his ability much like Mike Dubose was at the U of A.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:42 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Started right after 10RC.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:49 pm to Sauron
I think Locks tried to go to the well too much. When we needed to run we passed.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:51 pm to Sebastian
Besides our secondary the Natty can be chalked up to cute play calling on 5 red zone drives and 0 points.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:53 pm to Sauron
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He made some frustratingly bad decisions, though, and it seemed to begin in the MSU game.
It began the moment we played the tougher defenses. MSU saw Tua's weaknesses, his repetition of predictable behaviors and exploited it.
After they did it, all Citadel, Auburn, Georgia, Oklahoma and Clemson did was continue this gameplan and attempt to build off of it. Tua was too stubborn to change... or better yet adapt and we paid for it.
People kept babying Tua and making excuses instead of seeing the writing on the wall. I would rant against this and get downvoted for demanding more from him.
The reality is that Tua is insanely talented and he knows it. The media wouldn't stop telling him how great he was. Saban even got to the point of asking the media to point out our flaws, obviously because these kids started becoming entitled and complacency started setting.
Look at our games against MSU forward. They weren't being that damn exotic. They just knew Tua rarely makes a second choice read after his initial pre-snap look. Easy to bait him to throw in the middle when he's playing arrogant overestimating his abilities.
They would show cover 2 (man), then after the snap roll to a cover 3 or 4 (zone) which "confused" Tua repeatedly.
Look at the second interception we threw against Clemson. They showed man before the snap, then rolled to a deep zone 4 (CB immediately backed away playing deep).
Instead of Tua to look at the coverage movement after the snap he already has made his mind up where he wants to throw the ball and we get screwed.
How did Enos help Tua there? Enos helped Hurts and that is great because it ended up winning the SEC for us. However, we needed Tua to grow and develop mentally to beat that Clemson side and that isn't what occurred.
That's the honest truth.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:55 pm to MrBiriwa
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He's a true Sophmore and now sees how teams with play him. Im pretty confident he will learn and get better
I'm scared he won't.
They were doing this to him for weeks (MSU started this and the delayed middle blitzs combined with CB blitzes) and he never adapted. He never wanted to check down and he pretty much got more stubborn relying on his abilities instead of growing and maturing as a QB.
How did Enos help him there?
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:56 pm to YStar
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How did Enos help him there?
How can he if Tua refused to do what he was taught? It wasn't like we were going to yank Tua for not listening.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:00 pm to CrimsonBoz
And Josh over on the sideline with Nick way to often when he should have been in the game over 34 or 22
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:01 pm to CrimsonBoz
I hope your source is wrong about Tosh. We need him for recruiting and he would be devastating on Georgia combined with possibly Corey Raymond.
I don't even know why Tosh is getting killed for that game as if Saban hasn't given up 40 and 35 in previous championship games and as if we did our defense any favors starting the game with a pick 6 and continually giving Clemson fantastic field position.
It was Saban who thought we shouldn't blitz when everybody in America were saying put pressure on Trevor Lawrence and don't let him get comfortable.
I'm really not liking some of these movies he is making. Some seem knee jerk and desperate.
I don't even know why Tosh is getting killed for that game as if Saban hasn't given up 40 and 35 in previous championship games and as if we did our defense any favors starting the game with a pick 6 and continually giving Clemson fantastic field position.
It was Saban who thought we shouldn't blitz when everybody in America were saying put pressure on Trevor Lawrence and don't let him get comfortable.
I'm really not liking some of these movies he is making. Some seem knee jerk and desperate.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:03 pm to YStar
Lawrence kills against the blitz, one of the best qb's in the country against the blitz, we had to get pressure without bringing extra defenders and we couldn't.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:05 pm to Tider95
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How can he if Tua refused to do what he was taught? It wasn't like we were going to yank Tua for not listening.
It's the position coach's job to relate the information, coach the kid up and get the player on the right page in order to follow the execution necessary for success.
I get that Tua was feeling himself, but it was up to Enos to knock him down a peg and get him to buy into what they were teaching.
Enos didn't.
In hindsight I'm not shocked he left anymore.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:05 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Besides our secondary the Natty can be chalked up to cute play calling on 5 red zone drives and 0 points.
I agree, but 2 picks and one of them for 7 is no small thing.
Also, it was obvious by the 2nd quarter that FGs were almost completely off the table. How many big games have we started by banging in a few FGs before we really got going? Those 3s add up, and are SO, SO much better than ZERO.
Face it. Our Special Teams were awful this year overall. Didn't we shatter the missed XP record?
Special Teams is important. Go back and watch the GA game and check out the number of times that GA barely missed pinning us inside the 3. It happened at least 4 times, maybe 5. If they get a couple of those, the game can change dramatically.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:07 pm to Tider95
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Lawrence kills against the blitz, one of the best qb's in the country against the blitz, we had to get pressure without bringing extra defenders and we couldn't.
Untrue.
He struggled this year when pressured. Notre Dame kept the game close early by pressuring him and making him unsettled in the pocket.
Ther moment they lost their pass rusher and their superstar CB, Notre Dame couldn't effectively get pressure (or conver) and Trevor settled down.
Ther game ended the moment he settled.
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:07 pm to YStar
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I get that Tua was feeling himself, but it was up to Enos to knock him down a peg and get him to buy into what they were teaching.
How do you do that when there is no threat of benching or any real consequences for not doing what your are supposed to do?
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:08 pm to YStar
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Untrue.
He struggled this year when pressured. Notre Dame kept the game close early by pressuring him and making him unsettled in the pocket.
Ther moment they lost their pass rusher and their superstar CB, Notre Dame couldn't effectively get pressure (or conver) and Trevor settled down.
Ther game ended the moment he settled.
This is flat out wrong and the stats don't support it. Lawrence diagnoses and feasts on the spots vacated by the blitz over and over. You can have your personal opinions on this, but it simply is not born out by the data.
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