re: Best analysis I've heard yet, and will spoon feed those struggling to understand QB Issues

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Daniels in 2021 as a 3rd year starter

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At ArizonaSt

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Milroe in 2023 as a 1st year starter

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At BAMA

Not a fair comparison.

Great analysis. So basically the choices are Milroe has to completely improve his play, we have to install a completely different offense, or we have already seen the ceiling of what an Alabama team can achieve with Milroe at QB. I doubt Milroe can improve on that scale or Saban installs a new offense, so I suspect next season will end in a first game playoff loss. Hopefully Milroe is gone after next year.

I’m not sure what you think you’re presenting, but it’s not a rebuttal to the point people are making. You could put a couple dozen starters in our offense, with our talent, and pump out 3000 passing yards over 14 games. That’s 215 yards a game. That’s not hard, McElroy and Hurts did it.

The point people are making is the context behind those stats. What type of throws are we making, what plays can we call with him, how does our offense operate and generate yardage/points? Is it efficient or inefficient? This year we had one of the the most inefficient offenses we’ve had in a decade.

AJ McCarron couldn’t run the ball like Milroe and only had 3,000 yards. But he also ran an offense that was leaps and bounds ahead of Milroe’s. Short, intermediate, deep throws were on the table. We could adjust the line and limit sacks/maximize lanes for the run game. Curl, slant, out, post, name a route we could run it. Coker, same thing.

That’s the exact same thing as 2022 Daniels. You can run a complete offense. You can make the throws to everywhere on the field. You have a quarterback that knows when to use his legs effectively, like when he extended multiple drives against us even in 2022. Your offense isn’t gimped because the QB can’t do those things, which is the case with Milroe.

Nick Marshall had 3200 total yards and 32 touchdowns. Would you rather have Nick Marshall as your starter or McCarron? Or do you suddenly care about how Marshall limits your offense outside of Malzahn’s bomb or bust gimmick?

If we do want to hang on stats though, I’m guessing you ignored his freshman year stat line of 20 touchdowns, 2 ints, and 3200 total yards because it didn’t fit the narrative right? The one where he had five games passing 300+ yards, including 408 against #6 Oregon?

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People would rather argue with one another never endingly rather than listen to a 25 minute interview where an analyst who has no skin in the game simply tells you exactly what happened this game and season.

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How about this… didn’t listen watch the video, don’t need to… I’m not blind to the fact that Saban hired a 30 year old OC whose own alma mater didn’t want him, who couldn’t fix shite with countless #1 recruiting classes… pretty simple to me.

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So what I am gathering from this is that Saban put all his eggs in the Milroe basket and asked the rest of the team and coaching staff to take on extra unnecessary stress to accommodate for his inability to do anything well except throw far and run fast.

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Saban sees the same things we do. I can promise you that.

His concerns with Milroe is the exact reason he gave Buchner and Simpson a chance to show what they could do for our offense against an average USF team...both played poorly. He had no choice at that point. He went with Milroe and it worked out no matter how much of a cluster f*** the offense was at times. It's why Nick is the best.

Georgia fans are creaming their pants over Beck returning and he threw zero TDs against Bama and should have thrown 3 picks. He had the same TD/INT stats as Milroe this past year. Shouldn't they want a new QB as well?

Look the offense has to get better. If Milroe doesn't improve then I'm all for going in another direction...but this notion that we need to just write Milroe off completely is silly and a casual take.

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So what I am gathering from this is that Saban put all his eggs in the Milroe basket and asked the rest of the team and coaching staff to take on extra unnecessary stress to accommodate for his inability to do anything well except throw far and run fast.


Milroe was friends with more of the people who mattered in the locker room. He did the retail politics part of being a quarterback rather than focusing on himself like Simpson. There was better buy-in with him at QB even though he made everyone else’s job harder.

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insane that you people still believe this horseshite. There is absolutely zero evidence of it, yet you folks truly believe it.

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You could put a couple dozen starters in our offense, with our talent, and pump out 3000 passing yards over 14 games. That’s 215 yards a game. That’s not hard, McElroy and Hurts did it.

The point people are making is the context behind those stats. What type of throws are we making, what plays can we call with him, how does our offense operate and generate yardage/points? Is it efficient or inefficient? This year we had one of the the most inefficient offenses we’ve had in a decade.

AJ McCarron couldn’t run the ball like Milroe and only had 3,000 yards. But he also ran an offense that was leaps and bounds ahead of Milroe’s. Short, intermediate, deep throws were on the table. We could adjust the line and limit sacks/maximize lanes for the run game. Curl, slant, out, post, name a route we could run it. Coker, same thing.

That’s the exact same thing as 2022 Daniels. You can run a complete offense. You can make the throws to everywhere on the field. You have a quarterback that knows when to use his legs effectively, like when he extended multiple drives against us even in 2022. Your offense isn’t gimped because the QB can’t do those things, which is the case with Milroe.

Nick Marshall had 3200 total yards and 32 touchdowns. Would you rather have Nick Marshall as your starter or McCarron?

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This.

Not all offensive yards and TD's are created equally.

Also, these issues make the opposing DC's job so easy to gameplan for. We simply could not even remotely scare a defensive coordinator. In fact as the season played out we saw teams using one and sometimes two spies because the only thing that scared DC's was Milroe running the ball after the plays would break down. They really did not fear him finding an open receiver.

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and big chunk running plays on offense.

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right, so why didn't we give them a steady dose of that all game long?

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Why are we blaming the entire team again?

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Because the oline was bad in pass pro, the snapper couldn't snap the ball accurately, and the defense gave up too many huge plays in huge moments. You can say that Milroe held onto the ball too long, but most of those sacks were dude to a defender running completely free directly to the quarterback.

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You can say that Milroe held onto the ball too long, but most of those sacks were dude to a defender running completely free directly to the quarterback.

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I only remember one sack in the playoff out of 6 where the defender ran free at him. Even that one he ran 10+ yards in a straight line to get to him and Milroe still could not see it coming. I will give him a break on a few where the pocket collapsed quickly on him but it is like the one I mentioned or where he takes a 10+ yard loss because he does not know how to scramble. Especially with his supposed speed and athletic ability.