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Bama with Sark wins the championship even with the injuries at wideout

Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:44 am
Come at me!

BoB is a square peg in a round hole.

Sark would have schemed up some plays to account for heavy pressure up the middle.
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:45 am to
It's widely accepted that boob isn't as creative as sark.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 8:47 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:48 am to
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Eli Goldfinger

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15176 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:48 am to
Who is going to argue that?

BOB and Marrone regressed out offense significantly
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:49 am to
BoB schemed up 11 additional points that were flat out dropped. I wish we'd been a little more creative with the run game, but that's splitting hairs. His job was really damn hard last night once Williams went out.

What should have been about 430 yards and 29 points, with our personnel situation.........not sure what else you can ask for overall against a defense that good and that locked in (which they were).

This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 8:52 am
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12216 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:49 am to
Bama wins thr game if their receivers and TE catch the passes that hit them in their hands.

Dropped passes that should have been catches, cost Bama two games this year.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21671 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:51 am to
Yes, but you're starting way too many threads. You seem to be relishing in pointing out negatives.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5735 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:52 am to
No sir. Georgia was the best team in the SEC all year and played like it all year with the exception in the SECCG. Alabama played pretty much average all year with the exception in the SECCG. The injuries to playmakers were just too much to overcome and the OL played like they have all year last night.
Alabama was able to beat UGA in the SECCG with elite QB and WR play. Remove the two big playmakers at WR and that threat is completely gone. Add in the two new starters at each corner which both got toasted in the 4th quarter last night. There was no way to scheme around the injuries. Especially when Jameson went down. It was too late by then.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3476 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:54 am to
Not a fan of BOB.

I think you are right, simply because Sark would have dialed up plays that manufactured TD's when we were inside the 10. BOB managed to F that up several times throughout the year.

What Sark does best that I haven't seen out of BOB is consistently engineer bad matchups. He certainly would have made them pay for bringing the pressure.

One of the most frustrating aspects of BOB is watching all of the formations and plays without a hot read while teams are bringing pressure. I lost count of how many times teams would be blitzing and every receiver and TE were running 15 yards down field. At least give Bryce 1 outlet or check down. How many times did Najee get a check down last year and how many times did we see that this year with BRob?
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:55 am to
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BoB schemed up 11 additional points that were flat out dropped. I wish we'd been a little more creative with the run game, but that's splitting hairs. His job was really damn hard last night once Williams went out.


Agreed 100%. BoB is as good as our previous OCs but we dropped 2 TDs last night. Give us those points and the game is completely different.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:56 am to
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Alabama was able to beat UGA in the SECCG with elite QB and WR play. Remove the two big playmakers at WR and that threat is completely gone. Add in the two new starters at each corner which both got toasted in the 4th quarter last night. There was no way to scheme around the injuries. Especially when Jameson went down. It was too late by then.


Exactly. The outcome of the SECCG and the reason for hope for a rematch was due to Alabama's ability to do things on offense against Georgia that nobody else Georgia had played could do. Losing Metchie shrunk that ability, but didn't completely destroy it. Losing Metchie and Jameson completely removed it. All things considered I thought we moved the ball pretty well once Jameson got hurt, but the entire gameplan was based around his ability to take the top off and the fact that Georgia had to respect that. Once he was out, we basically had to start grasping at straws.

We still had shots, but some younger players and less used guys didn't make the plays. It happens.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:00 am to
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One of the most frustrating aspects of BOB is watching all of the formations and plays without a hot read while teams are bringing pressure. I lost count of how many times teams would be blitzing and every receiver and TE were running 15 yards down field. At least give Bryce 1 outlet or check down. How many times did Najee get a check down last year and how many times did we see that this year with BRob?





We threw a whole bunch of short check downs last night - both to the backs and to receivers in the flats. Slade had 2-3, the running backs had 5 combined, Holden had 2-3. I agree that earlier in the season they seemed to be much less existent.

Sark is a great playcaller. I love what he does. But it was a whole helluva lot easier for Sark to call redzone plays with that OL, running back and DeVonta absolutely torching dudes with his hips. Sark was an ABYSMAL red zone playcaller his first 2 years with the Falcons when his options weren't as good compared to opponents.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:01 am
Posted by DennyCrane
Member since Dec 2021
264 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:13 am to
I thought post injury, oBrian did a decent job. My main complaint was the lousy calling in red zone before the injury. We reverted to early season NFL offense and settled for field goals. It just does not work well in college with the addition possessions and momentum flows. We could have put them away or at least taken them out of their game plan in first quarter. Easy to not pick a day later. Not mad. See y’all next year
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:17 am to
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BoB is as good as our previous OCs


He isn't nearly as good as either Kiffin or Sark. Not in the slightest.

Hell, he's not even as good as Daboll. You saw in the 2nd and 26 game what Daboll could do with a complete arsenal.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:19 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:24 am to
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He isn't nearly as good as either Kiffin or Sark. Not in the slightest.

Hell, he's not even as good as Daboll. You saw in the 2nd and 26 game what Daboll could do with a complete arsenal.





I'd agree with that. Of course, DaBoll is one of the 2-3 best OCs in the NFL and will be a head coach soon (maybe next year), Lane is an offensive savant and Sark was a very solid NFL OC who is an elite or college OC, so it's a pretty high bar.

I think BoB is a "good" coordinator. I think he's probably very good at game-planning, teaching and organization. He's not going to be a guy who schemes mismatches and makes great in-game adjustments, though.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3476 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:24 am to
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We threw a whole bunch of short check downs last night - both to the backs and to receivers in the flats. Slade had 2-3, the running backs had 5 combined, Holden had 2-3. I agree that earlier in the season they seemed to be much less existent.

Sark is a great playcaller. I love what he does. But it was a whole helluva lot easier for Sark to call redzone plays with that OL, running back and DeVonta absolutely torching dudes with his hips. Sark was an ABYSMAL red zone playcaller his first 2 years with the Falcons when his options weren't as good compared to opponents.



Agreed, I wasn't really commenting on last night as much as the total body of work. Last night was the first time all year that we saw a consideration for pressure. A&M, Auburn, LSU just terrible play calling and adjustments to pressure.

I'm confident Sark would have been more creative, and created more red zone opportunity even with the team that was on the field last night. And you're right, Sark eventually got canned because of his red zone offense in Atlanta. That said, the NFL and college are very, very different beasts.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:25 am to
Willing to bet that Bob comes back with a revenge .. or Saban goes after a young OC who is good at in game adjustments.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:26 am to
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Agreed, I wasn't really commenting on last night as much as the total body of work. Last night was the first time all year that we saw a consideration for pressure. A&M, Auburn, LSU just terrible play calling and adjustments to pressure.

I'm confident Sark would have been more creative, and created more red zone opportunity even with the team that was on the field last night. And you're right, Sark eventually got canned because of his red zone offense in Atlanta. That said, the NFL and college a very, very different beasts.



Yep - totally agree. Like I said above, I think BoB is probably a very organized guy who is a good game-planner, but he is not good at adjustments or matchup stuff in-game. At all. I honestly thought last night was probably the best at in-game adjustments that he has done all season.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by LaneB
Member since Oct 2021
398 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:27 am to
dropped balls cost us but even otherwise BoB was unable to generate counter to their pass rush and most coordinators would have figured something
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:28 am to
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most coordinators would have figured something



We did - we started throwing to backs and slot men behind their blitzers. Then UGA adjusted to that, and quite frankly we kind of ran out of options.
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