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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:02 am to
Posted by Marktastic86
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:02 am to
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Zach Calzada beat Bama in 2021 and finished the year with -9 yards rushing

I'd already forgotten that guy's name. It's amazing that random bums who never do anything else somehow catch fire against Bama.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:03 am to
Watson beat us in 16 was absolutely a dual threat.


Side note yes it is early but Milroe at this point looks to be our QB.

We will see.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:04 am to
That's because Jimbo threw their game against Miss. State the prior week and spent that entire week game planning for Alabama. He had a perfect plan for us and lost to State when they had no business losing.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:06 am to
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Watson beat us in 16 was absolutely a dual threat.


I wonder how much NFL Scouts got paid to convince themselves that Mitch Trubisky was better than Deshaun Watson. Any Bama fan would have corrected them for free
Posted by bamatide07
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:06 am to
LOL it's mid April. Much can and will happen between now and the end of August.
Posted by RollTide33
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:13 am to
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Side note yes it is early but Milroe at this point looks to be our QB.


I'd bet money that the first official depth chart for the Middle Tennessee game looks like this.

QB: Jalen Milroe or Ty Simpson
Posted by bamatide07
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:15 am to
Yep and both guys will see playing time in that game.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:21 am to
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QB: Jalen Milroe or Ty Simpson


If I remember correctly, the competition between McCarron and Sims was alive Week 2 of 2011 when we visited Penn State (or at least we acted like it was publicly)
Posted by bamatide07
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:23 am to
Yes. Both of them saw playing time against Kent State in the opener that year and it was obvious that McCarron was the better player. Sims transferred after the season was over and the rest is history.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:24 am to
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If I remember correctly, the competition between McCarron and Sims was alive Week 2 of 2011 when we visited Penn State (or at least we acted like it was publicly)




yep


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McCarron started the Tide's first game against Kent State but had to share the job with Phillip Sims. This week he was on his own. He gave coach Nick Saban no reason to make a change until the game was out of reach.

Saban, of course, was not about to declare McCarron the unchallenged No. 1.

"We still have a competition at the position," Saban said. "We really do feel like we have two very good players and we want both guys to continue to develop. But I thought AJ did a nice job today."


LINK
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:27 am to
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Yes. Both of them saw playing time against Kent State in the opener that year and it was obvious that McCarron was the better player


Wellllllllllll

Alabama v. Kent State Week 1 2011

AJ: 14/23 226 yards 1 td 2 ints
Sims: 7/14 73 yards 0 tds, 2 ints

This place might crash if we get these kind of numbers leading up the Texas game
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:30 am to
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This place might crash if we get these kind of numbers leading up the Texas game




I also seem to remember our Oline forgetting that the season had started in that first game.
Posted by bamatide07
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:31 am to
For some reason I think that our offense will probably have better stats than that. At least we hope
Posted by bamatide07
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:32 am to
Our skill position players are a little better in 2023. I love that 2011 team but Maze, Hanks and Norwood (who I loved as a player) are not on the level of today's athletes.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:36 am to
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I also seem to remember our Oline forgetting that the season had started in that first game.


Wow all the memories are coming back. 4 turnovers and couldn't run the ball. However, still won by 41 because the defense gave up 90 total yards on 70 plays. Their only 7 points came off what was essentially a Pick-6. First indication that that defense was gonna be pretty good
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:40 am to
Their QB threw the ball 47 times for 99 yards
Posted by BamaBoynATL
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:43 am to
This idiotic. The NFL still has the best coaching and best athletes in the world, Jalen and Lamar are proving their other ways to win but also showing guys can get better if you give them time but if you watched the Super Bowl, the one where Jalen was throwing darts all over the field and say that’s “poor Qb-ing” then you’re not very smart or bias for some reason.
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:48 am to
I had forgotten Calzada too. I happened to see his name the other day. I had no idea where he was going after leaving the Barn. The answer....................................





Incarnate Word. Yes from beating Bama to Incarnate Word.
Posted by BamaBoynATL
ATL
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:48 am to
How many pocket passers have also done nothing in the NFL? Most QBs stink regardless of their style and if we talk about recent SB winners that’s also hard to judge because recently teams have finally started to not be bias against athletic QBs and most the recent SB were won by Brady. Let’s see the next 10 years I’m sure most will be athletic play extenders
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:52 am to
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The "freak athlete running QB's who can sorta throw will take over the NFL any day now" narrative has been pushed for the last decade and still hasn't happened. It's still very much a passing league, but guys like Herbert, Burrow and Allen that can scramble on top of being consistently accurate seem to be popping up a lot more frequently.


Has it not happened?

The 32 NFL Starters at the beginning of last season:

NFC:

East:
- Eagles - Jalen Hurts
- Cowboys -Dak Prescott
- Giants - Daniel Jones
- Commanders - Carson Wentz


South:
- Bucs - Tom Brady
- Falcons - Marcus Mariota
- Saints - Jameis Winston
- Panthers - Sam Darnold


North:
- Packers - Aaron Rodgers
- Bears - Justin Fields

- Lions - Jared Goff
- Vikings - Kirk Cousins

West:
- 49ers - Trey Lance (Jimmy G/Purdy)
- Seahawks - Geno Smith
- Cardinals - Kyler Murray
- Rams - Matthew Stafford

AFC:

East:
- Bills - Josh Allen
- Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa
- Jets - Zack Wilson

- Patriots - Mac Jones

South:
- Titans - Ryan Tannehill
- Colts - Matt Ryan
- Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence
- Texas - Davis Mills

North:
- Steelers - Mitch Trubisky/Kenny Pickett
- Bengals - Joe Burrow
- Browns - Jacoby Brissett/Deshaun Watson
- Ravens - Lamar Jackson


West:
- Chiefs - Patrick Mahomes
- Broncos - Russell Wilson
- Chargers - Justin Herbert

- Raiders - Derek Carr

By my count, there were 10 QBs who were QBs who are traditional pocket passers, and 22 who were threats with their legs off-script.

And the 4 guys who are going in the 1st round this year all fit the latter (Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Will Levis, and Anthony Richardson), while 3 of the 10 statues are on the way out the door (Tom Brady, Davis Mills, and Matt Ryan) with a couple more soon to follow (Matt Stafford, Ryan Tannehill).
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 10:57 am
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