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Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:24 pm to
The issue isn't our playbook or concepts. The issue is the play caller lacks creativity when the pressure is on him to make the right calls. He seems to just stick with certain plays to not "gamble" and he leans heavily on the fact Bryce can create his own play.

Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:46 pm to
Watch most of our passes more closely or even look at the pic above… our route concepts/combinations are not sound or we are not reading the coverage or something is off … not to mention creativity . Loved the play where Gibbs scored with the motion putting players in a bind … then poof it was gone
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Posted by Goombaw
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:20 pm to
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7 Eli Ricks

Posted by YStar
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 6:19 pm to
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Watch most of our passes more closely or even look at the pic above… our route concepts/combinations are not sound or we are not reading the coverage or something is off … not to mention creativity . Loved the play where Gibbs scored with the motion putting players in a bind … then poof it was gone


That's because he continually picks uncreative or basic plays hoping Bryce bails him out.

We know our playbook is creative because Kiffin and Sark put their touches on it. It's the same playbook Saban demanded BOB learn.... however when the guy calling plays doesn't see how to use players or can't be creative it restricts our concepts.

I had a coordinator like that. Dude put together amazing gameplans and could break down film amazingly. He would throw our everything at the first moment of pressure and go to basic calls and just repeat.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:12 am to
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I will add that it is mainly our interior line play and evaluations but we have missed on some across the board so far. I know it takes some longer to develop there but with the portal I am not sure it matters or how many are patient enough to stick it out and develop


I will agree with that. I just think our play calling/lack of creativity and absolutely refusing to play the better player is our biggest problems.
Posted by IB4bama
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:48 am to
I agree about Bryce not running. The defense doesnt even have to account for him on pass plays or QB option run plays.
They know he wont run.
Posted by C W
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:19 am to
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I had a coordinator like that. Dude put together amazing gameplans and could break down film amazingly. He would throw our everything at the first moment of pressure and go to basic calls and just repeat.


If you’re not at least a successful major college assistant coach , making that real good money, then you probably missed your calling
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:53 am to
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Brian Daboll, who drove us all crazy at times, called this play.

Underrated as an OC for Alabama. If Tua (or a current day Jalen) had been the QB all season, we would think so much more highly of Daboll.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:43 am to
Season Stories: Answering the Bell
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:45 am to
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Posted by jjv0004
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 12:06 pm to
I know almost nothing of x's and o's so I am hoping someone can enlighten me. I watched the game Saturday night and it seemed like Bryce kept getting pressure so I thought the o-line was not playing well. I was not watching the game close enough to pay attention to how much time Bryce had to throw before being forced out of the pocket.

Is the issue play calling or wide receivers that cannot get open? Or a porous o-line? When I thought Bryce was being rushed to throw, was he actually being rushed or did he have time to throw but nobody was open? Is this a design issue or guys that cannot get separation?
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 12:24 pm to
Routes took too long to develop into an 8 man coverage. BY needs to throw on time like we were doing against ARKY.


Edit. Maybe BOB anticipated a 3 man rush and called slow developing plays knowing BY could buy fime ( I know better) but I have given up trying to figure him out
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 2:37 pm to
Alabama Defenders Not Letting One Game Define Them (SI)

The Crimson Tide defense bounced back with a shutdown performance against Mississippi State.
Posted by Notorious1918
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Is the issue play calling or wide receivers that cannot get open? Or a porous o-line? When I thought Bryce was being rushed to throw, was he actually being rushed or did he have time to throw but nobody was open? Is this a design issue or guys that cannot get separation?

To me it's play design. Bryce being pressured is the final product. For a given play his mechanics are drop back X number of steps, read, plant, step up, throw. The problem, repeatedly, is when he gets to the step up and throw portion there's nowhere for him to go with the ball. Which means he has to hold it, which allows more time for the pocket to collapse, leading to him doing the gymnastics we're used to seeing him do just to get the ball out.

I don't have significant beef with the receivers. A division I receiver can get open. What I see is an offense that is so complex that it's hurting us. Frequently our receivers aren't running pre-determined routes. They're running routes based on what the defense is showing. They're college kids. It takes them time to read a defense. So it slows them down. Look at any of the clips of Bama games and watch the receivers. They're thinking as much as they're running. They're rarely running full speed. Complicating matters is that they're getting checks and audibles screamed at them until there's only a second or two left before they have to execute. It's a lot to process. Could different or more experienced receivers do better...maybe. But the receivers we have are really good, otherwise they'd be at a school in the Midwest.

Bill O'Brien is coaching amateurs using pro concepts. Which is great if it works but clumsy and unnecessary if it doesn't. Think about Tennessee for a second. How do they get the ball snapped so fast? They only have about 6 or 7 unique plays. But they run them quickly and precisely and they don't overthink anything. Players play fast when they know what they're doing. John Doe likes to say it's chess not checkers. I'd add a caveat. Sometimes it's checkers.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 4:28 pm to
Bye week Tuesday player press conferences

Roydell Williams


Chris Braswell


Brian Branch
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 5:00 pm to
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If you’re not at least a successful major college assistant coach , making that real good money, then you probably missed your calling


Didn't have the patience to coach and doubt I would be an amazing coordinator. I could coach my position well but again.. no patience for all that.

I know people will insult me for saying all that but it's the truth lol.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Maybe BOB anticipated a 3 man rush and called slow developing plays knowing BY could buy fime ( I know better) but I have given up trying to figure him out


If you are anticipating them rushing three and dropping eight, you would run something shorter attacking soft spots in the zone.

You wouldn't run deep routes that the opponents zone coverage easy blankets.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 6:09 pm to
Why Alabama Turnovers The Key Statistic to Watch: All Things CW (SI)

One of the most disappointing aspects to the 2022 Crimson Tide season has been the defense averaging just one turnover per game.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:53 am to
Looks like Justin Eboigbe is out for the year:
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Charlie Potter
@Charlie_Potter

Saban on if DL Justin Eboigbe, who is dealing with a neck injury, could return this season: "I don't think so."
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