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re: Bama Football Tidings
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:09 am to TideWarrior
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:09 am to TideWarrior
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That has been the problem all along. Even with the conferences playing this fall the issue was going to be the guidance we had to follow. They would have been better starting the season the week before Labor Day or Labor Day weekend and only playing 8 or 9 games and having a game every 2 weeks. This would have allowed 14 days between games to quarantine players if needed.
Yep. I bet it was some TV contract issue though. But that would have been the thing to do for sure. I trust our staff and team to be as responsible as they can be to prevent outbreaks. I do not trust many of our opponents to do the same, and based on the guidelines the SEC is following you can lose half your starters for two weeks even if you take every precaution imaginable and none of them even test positive.
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:23 am to Robot Santa
Bamameister:
Robot Santa:
No player should have to be quarantined for 14 days due to a player on an opponent's team testing positive soon after a game. The average football play lasts 4-12 seconds. There aren't enough plays in a game to result in 15 minutes of unmasked exposure within 6 feet of opposing players who test positive after the game. The game film records exposures.
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Players who have been determined to have "high-risk" contact with players who test positive are required to sit for 14 days. "High-risk" contact is defined as being within 6 feet of somebody who tests positive for 15 or more minutes without a face covering. So apparently, for these type situations, simply getting a retest and negative results is still a no-go for getting back on the field in less than 2 weeks.
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My concern with it is what happens if Mizzou's RG tests positive the Monday after we play them? Because based on those guidelines basically our entire starting defensive front 7 plus all the backup D-linemen we rotate in are done for two weeks even if all of them test negative on Wednesday. Doing it that way really doesn't make a lot of sense to me if they are being serious about having a season because every positive test from a guy who plays along the LoS is going to knock out a ton of players on two teams. ...based on the guidelines the SEC is following you can lose half your starters for two weeks even if you take every precaution imaginable and none of them even test positive.
No player should have to be quarantined for 14 days due to a player on an opponent's team testing positive soon after a game. The average football play lasts 4-12 seconds. There aren't enough plays in a game to result in 15 minutes of unmasked exposure within 6 feet of opposing players who test positive after the game. The game film records exposures.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:52 am to TidalSurge1
I was watching the opening NFL game last night and apparently the NFL has gone high teach to establish "contact Tracing." All the players were wearing them as bracelets.
"The half-ounce tag contains a proximity sensor and can be worn as a wristband, as an ID badge, or embedded into equipment for games and practice. It’s about the size of an Apple AirPods case
When a player or staff member comes within six feet of another person, a red light will appear as a warning signal. After five seconds, an audible alarm will be emitted from the device, alerting the wearers that they need to distance themselves.
Kinexon said that the settings can be customized by each client to adjust to their desired physical distance and proximity warning time.
Meanwhile, the NFL is using Kinexon’s tags for mandatory contact tracing. In the Covid-19 policies and procedures the league provided players and clubs, it says that proximity recording devices will be used to identify in-game close contacts. The NFL said that during team activities, practice and team travel, the recording devices must be worn.
It’s not just players. Everyone in the NFL team environment will wear the devices on a daily basis. When they check-in each day, they’ll receive a device. They then return the device at the end of each day so its data can be downloaded and the device can be disinfected.
The idea behind it is simple. In the event a player tests positive, there is now a record of everyone that they have been in contact with and for how long."
LINK
Aren't we using similar tech with our guys to establish effort, speed, and so forth? I love the idea that if players on the sideline and elsewhere are getting too close a red light starts beeping.
"The half-ounce tag contains a proximity sensor and can be worn as a wristband, as an ID badge, or embedded into equipment for games and practice. It’s about the size of an Apple AirPods case
When a player or staff member comes within six feet of another person, a red light will appear as a warning signal. After five seconds, an audible alarm will be emitted from the device, alerting the wearers that they need to distance themselves.
Kinexon said that the settings can be customized by each client to adjust to their desired physical distance and proximity warning time.
Meanwhile, the NFL is using Kinexon’s tags for mandatory contact tracing. In the Covid-19 policies and procedures the league provided players and clubs, it says that proximity recording devices will be used to identify in-game close contacts. The NFL said that during team activities, practice and team travel, the recording devices must be worn.
It’s not just players. Everyone in the NFL team environment will wear the devices on a daily basis. When they check-in each day, they’ll receive a device. They then return the device at the end of each day so its data can be downloaded and the device can be disinfected.
The idea behind it is simple. In the event a player tests positive, there is now a record of everyone that they have been in contact with and for how long."
LINK
Aren't we using similar tech with our guys to establish effort, speed, and so forth? I love the idea that if players on the sideline and elsewhere are getting too close a red light starts beeping.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 9:07 am to JJ27
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Sorry if I wasn’t clear. Typically we see people pop positive/show symptoms on Day 5. At least that’s what they’ve told us at the hospital.
That seems to be the normal time frame. I can legit see 5 days. Even if you aren't showing symptoms by then, if you've got it the virus it should show in the test by then.
Another question I have is why aren't they all using the clear face shields that go under the facemask? The things are dirt cheap and seem like they'd reduce the level of exposure by a good bit.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 9:15 am to TidalSurge1
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The average football play lasts 4-12 seconds. There aren't enough plays in a game to result in 15 minutes of unmasked exposure within 6 feet of opposing players who test positive after the game.
So all the time that guys are lined up pre-snap, and all the time guys are piled up after a running play don't count? There's a magic shield that appears between the players on opposing teams before the snap and after the whistle? Good to know.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 9:17 am to Robot Santa
Do you really believe an infected DL player is within 6 feet of each and every opposing OL player for a total of 15 minutes in a typical game? I doubt if even a NT (in the middle) is.
Who's going to be analyzing all of the SEC game film to determine which players spent a total of 15 minutes within 6 feet of any opponent players who tested positive soon after the games and ensure they are all quarantined for 14 days?
I'm skeptical that any SEC players will be quarantined for 14 days and/or withheld from playing due solely to any opponent players testing positive.
Who's going to be analyzing all of the SEC game film to determine which players spent a total of 15 minutes within 6 feet of any opponent players who tested positive soon after the games and ensure they are all quarantined for 14 days?
I'm skeptical that any SEC players will be quarantined for 14 days and/or withheld from playing due solely to any opponent players testing positive.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:20 pm to TidalSurge1
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Do you really believe an infected DL player is within 6 feet of each and every opposing OL player for a total of 15 minutes in a typical game? I doubt if even a NT (in the middle) is.
Linemen are probably within 6 feet of each other for 5 or 6 minutes on a typical 60+ yard drive. I mean it's really not that difficult of a concept to understand. Just in terms of actual game time a starting OL is going to be on the field for ~30 minutes. If you factor in all the time players are in close proximity to one another without the clock running that amount doubles.
And no I don't expect there to be a bunch of people with stopwatches and notepads tracking who all was in close proximity and for how long, but based on the SEC's own guidelines it's pretty ridiculous to believe that Team B is going to be able to avoid quarantining their starting DTs if Team A's starting center tests positive a day or two after they played. Otherwise why would the SEC waste the time creating any guidelines beyond "all players must be tested at least every Monday and Friday. All positive tests must be withheld from team activities and quarantined until obtaining a subsequent negative test." They aren't going to go to the trouble of coming up with a bunch of testing and medical guidelines in order to immediately turn around and say "y'all just do what you think is best" once the season starts.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:42 pm to Robot Santa
It appears to me the SEC 14-day quarantine requirement for any player who has 15 minutes of unmasked contact within 6 feet of a positive-test person has more to do with consequences of programs failing to ensure their own people are wearing masks and distancing as much as is practical.
You're just guessing at the total time a player "probably" spends within 6 feet of an opposing player during a game. And you've imagined and insisted lots of players, such as entire OL and DL groups, will be quarantined for 14 days due to an opposing player testing positive soon after a game. Nothing you've said is very convincing that many, if any, such quarantines are very likely to happen. It is possible, but it is unlikely.
You've even imagined and then dramatized that this SEC rule will probably end the season. But the sky isn't really falling, no matter how much you imagine and dramatize that it is.
You're just guessing at the total time a player "probably" spends within 6 feet of an opposing player during a game. And you've imagined and insisted lots of players, such as entire OL and DL groups, will be quarantined for 14 days due to an opposing player testing positive soon after a game. Nothing you've said is very convincing that many, if any, such quarantines are very likely to happen. It is possible, but it is unlikely.
You've even imagined and then dramatized that this SEC rule will probably end the season. But the sky isn't really falling, no matter how much you imagine and dramatize that it is.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:39 pm to TidalSurge1
LINK ]Video, photos from Day 16 of Alabama's preseason practice (BamaOnLine)
LINK ]Alabama’s Evan Neal Makes Transition To Tackle (BamaOnLine)
LINK ]Alabama OL Evan Neal explains impressive displays of athleticism (BamaOnLine)
LINK ]LaBryan Ray's return from injury benefits Tide on, off the field (BamaOnLine)
LINK ]Alabama’s Evan Neal Makes Transition To Tackle (BamaOnLine)
LINK ]Alabama OL Evan Neal explains impressive displays of athleticism (BamaOnLine)
LINK ]LaBryan Ray's return from injury benefits Tide on, off the field (BamaOnLine)
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 4:52 pm to TidalSurge1
Let's hope not. At least there's a gap between the Iron Bowl and the SECCG this year so we wouldn't have to see Malzahn calling up the SEC office and saying "Yeah, so we had a 3rd string lineman test positive, so I'm going to need you to go ahead and make all Bama's starting linemen sit out the SECCG."
Could see a booster trying to pay off someone at Kentucky to force us to sit players for the Iron Bowl.
Could see a booster trying to pay off someone at Kentucky to force us to sit players for the Iron Bowl.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:19 am to Snout Spout
Given that one of our reserve OL just tested positive, I really hope this isn’t the protocol.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 6:20 am
Posted on 9/12/20 at 7:38 am to HighTide_ATL
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Given that one of our reserve OL just tested positive
Who?
ETA: Sounds like Leatherwood is in quarantine: LINK
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 8:17 am
Posted on 9/12/20 at 9:20 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Good thing there is two weeks until game day.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 9:24 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
I don’t want to say the name because that could become problematic for my source. Idk how many ppl are in the know so I’d just like to be respectful. I feel comfortable sharing that it’s a freshman though.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 9:48 am to TidalSurge1
LINK ]What Nick Saban said during College GameDay appearance (BamaOnLine)
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 9/12/20 at 9:50 am to TidalSurge1
LINK ]Alabama gets set for 'important' second scrimmage of preseason (BamaOnLine)
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:48 am to TidalSurge1
Some "?"'s I will be interested in:
Who gets most reps at Star (News on JAD - is he in quarantine or ButtHurt?)
Who continues to get most reps at L-OT; how much longer will AL be away - probably another week?
Is BD still holding on to the #1 spot or losing more and more reps to the true freshman?
(same thoughts about Will Anderson on the other side)
Mac showing off or up and down performance - ? BY ?
Who is #3 WR... Metchie / or True Freshman?
Overall team attitude... seems like they have been in the camp environment forever... and know they must be getting ready to "bust" out...
Seems all the Barmore chatter was maybe just that... and he is good to go and ok...
Who gets most reps at Star (News on JAD - is he in quarantine or ButtHurt?)
Who continues to get most reps at L-OT; how much longer will AL be away - probably another week?
Is BD still holding on to the #1 spot or losing more and more reps to the true freshman?
(same thoughts about Will Anderson on the other side)
Mac showing off or up and down performance - ? BY ?
Who is #3 WR... Metchie / or True Freshman?
Overall team attitude... seems like they have been in the camp environment forever... and know they must be getting ready to "bust" out...
Seems all the Barmore chatter was maybe just that... and he is good to go and ok...
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:54 am to RollTide66
I’ve got a set of eyes (not mine but very close to me) on the scrimmage today. I’ll post updates as I get them.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:03 pm to phil4bama
Heck yea! We want the scoop for the next four years 
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:23 pm to phil4bama
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I’ll post updates as I get them.
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