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re: BAMA Cuts Episodes
Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:03 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:03 pm to GenesChin
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Did you even read the paper I linked?
Only a little of it. It's a pain to read that PDF on my phone. I think you missed my point. I don't doubt that Lebron's attorneys can pursue legal proceedings against UA. My point: I question whether it's a very smart thing to even consider, let alone publicly threatento to do, or actually do. Consider these two questions:
Do 'Family Guy' and 'The Simpsons' cause damages to each other or do they mutually benefit each other's popularity? Fox owning both is irrelevant to my question about popularity.
Will pursuing legal proceedings against UA be beneficial to 'The Shop' or damaging to it?
Its popularity is the only true value it has.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 8:49 pm
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:48 pm to TidalSurge1
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: I question whether it's a very smart thing to even consider, let alone publicly threaten to do or actually do.
As I mentioned multiple times, LeBron isn't necessarily threatening anything, just announcing he owns the IP. If you don't do that it makes it harder to enforce in the future
As in, LeBron may be perfectly fine with Alabama having this show if they acknowledge his rights / slight modification
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Do 'Family Guy' and 'The Simpsons'
First Simpsons/Family guy example you gave is not analogous to what LeBron vs Bama case is.
Also not sure why you think Fox not suing themselves should be an example? Not sure why you keep bringing this up
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do they mutually benefit each other's popularity?
This doesn't matter in an IP case. You don't get someones IP rights just because you can help them out
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Will pursuing legal proceedings against UA be beneficial to 'The Shop' or damaging to it?
This is up for LeBron team to decide. Considering they specifically said they weren't looking to initiate legal action, doubtful
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Its popularity is the only true value it has.
And This has value
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:55 pm to GenesChin
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:04 pm to TidalSurge1
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Do 'Family Guy' and 'The Simpsons' cause damages to each other or do they mutually benefit each other's popularity? Fox owning both is irrelevant to my question about popularity.
That would only be a question for Fox or whoever owns the Simpson's. It doesn't somehow preclude the fact that Family Guy is ripping off the concept.
I read Gene's paper and I was about to jump in here and argue the point that it is a pretty big hurdle to claim misappropriation of Jame's IP.
I thought better of it and went and went and checked out James' barbershop series on YouTube. Bama's version is pretty damn identical in form and fashion to Jame's series right down to the logo, music, and graphics. Instead of James as the focus point with a bunch of NBA guys shooting the shite about what it takes to be a winner, you have Julio, other players, and Saban stopping by to dispense some nuggets of wisdom.
Check it out:
LINK
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:17 pm to 14&Counting
I agree 'Shop Talk" looks like a knock off of 'The Shop.' But late night talk shows are equally similar and they compete directly. Some TV talent contest shows, game shows, reality shows, sitcoms, etc. are also knock offs of others. Again I question whether Bama is competing against or in any way undermining the potential success of 'The Shop'. I do get that some posturing has to take place to protect against other potential future infringements.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:20 pm to 14&Counting
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Bama's version is pretty damn identical in form and fashion to Jame's series right down to the logo, music, and graphics.
Exactly.
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Fox owning both is irrelevant to my question about popularity.
Didn't address this but...
If Bama were to start slapping on sponsorship, monetizing the videos or having $ involved though, it goes from popularity to financial endeavor
By staking his claim, LeBron would ensure that he is entitled to any profits if they come up. Also, he probably wants them to modify logo/format to be a clearly separate show
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:27 pm to TidalSurge1
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agree 'Shop Talk" is argually a knock off of 'The Shop' but late night talk shows are equally similar and they compete directly.
Your point only makes sense if someone has a specific IP rights of the talk show format, which even then needs to be clear misappropriation
If Bama had "Pool Talk" in their jacuzzi fountains it probably would be fine for example.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:30 pm to GenesChin
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Didn't address this but...
If Bama were to start slapping on sponsorship, monetizing the videos or having $ involved though, it goes from popularity to financial endeavor
By staking his claim, LeBron would ensure that he is entitled to any profits if they come up. Also, he probably wants them to modify logo/format to be a clearly separate show
That makes sense. I doubt Bama is out to profit from it other than as a recruiting aid. So I think we're kind on the same page -- that it's a situation that should be able to be worked out between the two parties.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:31 pm to TidalSurge1
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Again I question whether Bama is competing against or in any way undermining the potential success of 'The Shop'.
If it was competition they probably would have sent a cease and desist
More likely they are staking a claim to potential future profits generated (ads/vid monetizing/sponsorship) and protecting IP
I'd also guess they'd ask Bama to not copy exactly
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:32 pm to TidalSurge1
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. I doubt Bama is out to profit from it other than as a recruiting aid
Probably right, but there always is the option if it gets popular + LeBron making claim now is better standing than after the fact
I expect some variation of the show to continue for Bama.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:53 pm to GenesChin
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I expect some variation of the show to continue for Bama.
I hope so. I enjoyed the first one.
I didn't even know Lebron had 'The Shop' until someone posted about it. If I had ever bumped into it surfing channels I'd have kept on surfing. I'd watch his basketball talent on display, but I'm not very interested in what he has to say. This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:59 pm to GenesChin
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Probably right, but there always is the option if it gets popular + LeBron making claim now is better standing than after the fact
Exactly....if Bama decides to monetize it, put it on DVD or stream it, and sell it to gump nation, James would expect a cut. As it stands now, its just a cool little recruiting tool.
Further, I would expect James and his team to aggressively enforce stuff like that....he is arguably the world's most famous athlete. If he didn't protect is IP, everyone would be looking to take a piece of him.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:28 am to MontyFranklyn
Just found out from a guy that cuts there that it is exclusive to football players and coaches only. I wonder how they're pulling that off
Posted on 4/3/18 at 12:13 pm to MontyFranklyn
I guess he’s no different than an athletic trainer or dietitian on staff for Alabama football.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 12:49 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Just found out from a guy that cuts there that it is exclusive to football players and coaches only. I wonder how they're pulling that off
Given that we have "football only" facilities, I'm sure there is a long list of these kinds of things that are similarly "pulled off".
Do you think the tennis team has access to the football soaking tubs? I don't think so.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:41 pm to MontyFranklyn
So Sexton, Coach Avery, and the team can’t get their hair cut there? That is some bullshite if that is really the case.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 6:23 pm to 14&Counting
Saban: I think LeBron James is a great player. I'm sorry someone can be offended by something we were having fun with. I enjoyed it and we're going to continue to do it.
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 6:37 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
frick Lebron
Posted on 4/3/18 at 6:56 pm to Cobrasize
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frick Lebron
I just watched a video of Lebron getting a hair cut while drinking a glass of wine. Jesus Christ
Posted on 4/3/18 at 7:00 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
Saban basically just said FU to LeBron lmaoooo
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 7:01 pm
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