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re: Bama Basketball Offseason Megathread

Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:24 am to
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:24 am to
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you have to have a spot for a Petty/Joe type player if they do come back.


Yeah and it sounds like both of us have coaches that are willing to "process" players if needed
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:51 am to


Kinda sorta feel like he's going to Mississippi State.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:53 am to
I agree
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 10:57 am to
That or to Tulane with Jaylen Forbes
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 1:10 pm to
Anybody got some bold predictions for this season?


I say Jaden Shackleford will break John Pettys school record for 3s made in a game.
Posted by Bamafan18
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:07 pm to
We win the SEC regular season or SECT title....one of the 2
Posted by Magnum73
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:42 pm to
If this team gels I wouldn't rule out winning the SEC regular season or tourney either. I wouldn't trade our starting 5 & bench with any team in the conference.Of course a few other SEC fans would say that about their team.If Petty comes back this team may set conference scoring records.May do it regardless.Defense should be a lot better to.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Defense should be a lot better to.


I can't express how happy I was to see Oats openly state we played terrible defense last year.

Other than the injuries, it was the most frustrating part of the season. In the back of my mind, I was worried he was willing to give up defense in the name of pace and scoring.

To hear him say otherwise gave me even greater hope moving forward.
Posted by Magnum73
Madison Al
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 3:57 pm to
He's bringing in the talent to play the defense it takes to win. He wanted athletic players with length & he got it.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:50 pm to
I guess Crimson Crossover got the order wrong on the graphic and Goodman heard it from some Arkansas fans.


quote:

Just in case Arkansas fans want to check out the accurate list:

1. Alabama
2. Tennessee
3. Florida
4. UK
5. Arkansas
6. Auburn
7. Ole Miss
8. LSU
9. South Carolina
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 7:51 pm
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:39 pm to
List is shite. Will Wade paid for a higher ranking than that.
Posted by train1523
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:41 am to
Goodman is absolute dogshit as a basketball “analyst” but I am happy to see this team get some good press
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:22 am to
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Goodman is absolute dogshit as a basketball “analyst”


Why?
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:23 am to
Winners of college basketball’s off-season (so far)

This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 8:25 am
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:28 am to
Oklahoma State is a winner even though they just got castrated by the NCAA? I don't understand that logic.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:25 am to
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While I would never say “getting hit with a one-year postseason ban” is a good thing, because of what happened next, it’s hard to keep the Cowboys off this list. Following the sanctions, the NCAA announced that any player currently in the Oklahoma State program could transfer, and be eligible immediately. Yet outside of one key contributor and another deep on the bench, the rest of the roster returned intact.

The big news of course was the return of Cade Cunningham, the aforementioned No. 1 ranked player in the class. Cunningham had no shortage of options – including contracts in the professional ranks – yet decided to do his one year between high school and the NBA in Stillwater. Beyond him though, the Cowboys return a team that – if they can somehow win an appeal – is good enough to make the NCAA.

So yeah, considering the circumstances, things could have been much worse in Stillwater. The only question now is if in fact they can win that appeal.


I thought his explained his opinion/reasoning well enough
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:30 am to
Alabama coach Nate Oats and assistant Bryan Hodgson are proving that high major recruiting experience is less important than relationship building skills.

Another Athletic article. Anyone want to post the article for poors like me and Bryant (sorry, George)?
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:33 am to
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July 20th remains the start date for college basketball programs to begin "permissive" --- not mandatory ---- summer basketball activities, per Dan Gavitt.

*Individual schools and conferences can still decide if they won't begin these activities due to health and safety reasons.

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:01 am to
I recently got the Athletic after hearing good things from friends for awhile, recommend picking it up the next time they do one of their sales.

quote:

Whenever a high-major program hires a coach from a non-power school, one main question arises: Can he recruit at this level? That same doubt followed Nate Oats to Alabama. Sure, he had a phenomenal run at Buffalo, winning 32 games in 2018, including an NCAA Tournament game. But could a guy who was a high school coach as recently as 2013, with no Division I experience outside of the MAC, attract top-shelf talent?

Consider that question answered affirmatively and emphatically. The Crimson Tide’s 2020 class — the first full recruiting cycle for Oats and his staff — finished at No. 12 according to 247Sports.com and No. 9 according to Rivals. It was only the third time in the past decade that Alabama had landed a top-15 class. The six-man group includes two top-100 players in shooting guard Josh Primo and power forward Alex Tchikou, plus one of the most coveted grad transfers in former Yale star Jordan Bruner and one of the top junior college prospects in guard Keon Ellis.

Of the six, only 6-foot-8 forward Keon Ambrose-Hylton signed on in the fall, as Oats got a taste of what recruiting four- and five-star kids is like.

“Initially, we went after lot of heavy guys,” he says. “And we made a lot of final fives. It’s easier to get involved with kids at this level, but harder to close the deal. These kids have a lot more options than the kids we were recruiting to Buffalo, so we probably need more options, too. You get told no more here.”

Two things helped swing the momentum in the spring. Recruits got to see Oats’ player-friendly style of play in action. Alabama finished fourth in adjusted tempo in his first season in Tuscaloosa and tied for fourth nationally in 3-point attempts. The addition of former Villanova point guard and ex-McDonald’s All-American Jahvon Quinerly last summer also helped. He transferred to the Tide in the summer and sat out the season. But Oats showed prospects video of Quinerly making precision passes in practice, and his name resonated with recruits who wanted to play alongside other blue-chippers.

Oats’ ace card is assistant Bryan Hodgson. Like Oats, Hodgson comes from a modest background. He coached at the grassroots level and in junior college before Oats brought him on staff at Buffalo. Hodgson, 33, has quickly gained a reputation as one of the top young recruiters in the game — 247Sports.com ranked him No. 6 for 2020. He was the chief recruiter on all six of Alabama’s signees.

“He is really, really good with people,” Oats says.

Hodgson was placed in foster care as a toddler after being put on a hot stove by his mother’s boyfriend. He has had to earn everything along the way. That helps him connect with people at all levels.

“There’s not much a kid is going to bring to me and be like, man, you wouldn’t understand,” Hodgson says. “I can say, man, I might.”

Hodgson’s years of forging relationships paid off in this class. The two Canadians who signed, Primo and Ambrose-Hylton, played for the same grassroots coach (Dwayne Washington) who coached Hodgson in ninth grade. He has known Darius Miles’ coach at IMG Academy for years. Sometimes you also get lucky. When Hodgson called Ellis, a Florida native, for the first time, Ellis told him how excited he was. The reason: Ellis has been an Alabama football fan his entire life.

Hodgson also works relentlessly. After a win at Ole Miss last season, he drove two hours to Memphis to take a 5:30 a.m. flight to Oakland, Calif., to watch one of Tchikou’s games. Tchikou was the last player in the class to commit, doing so on July 5. Hodgson also stays in constant contact with players he’s scouting.

“When I was coaching in AAU and junior college, I saw people recruit my guys,” he says. “There was nothing worse than when they got to the next level and called me to say that as soon as they got there, the coach didn’t message or call them anymore. They only saw him at practice. I vowed to never be that guy.”

Oats and Hodgson are in lockstep on recruiting philosophy, so if Hodgson tells Oats he needs to hop on a plane and see a kid, there’s no hesitation. The style of play helps too, as only certain players will fit it. Hodgson estimates the staff eliminates 30 to 40 percent of all potential recruits in a class just because they’re not suited to run as fast as the Crimson Tide goes.

High-level recruits often come with some baggage, handlers and entourages attached. “If there are six people I’ve got to go through when I’m recruiting someone,” Oats says, “then I’m done recruiting them.” He and his staff went to events such as the NBPA Top 100 camp and USA Basketball last year for the first time. There wasn’t much need for them to attend those when they were at Buffalo. But Oats says there really isn’t that much difference between recruiting in the MAC and in the SEC when you boil things down to their core.

“At the end of the day, it’s still about building relationships,” he says. “And building relationships is about being genuine and taking the time. You can’t build a relationship in one five-minute phone call. If you’re not willing to work and put the time in with recruiting, you’re not going to be very good at it.”
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