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Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:38 am to Carlton
Posted on 1/29/24 at 8:38 am to Carlton
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I'm not saying it is rigged but refs can easily influence outcomes and margins of victory. The NBA is notorious for this.
Scott Foster has entered the chat.
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:18 am to BFANLC
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What's it going to take for the Ravens to get over the hump?
We never will again. I’ll have to cling to 2012 forever.
We’ll lose a lot in free agency this year. I believe this year was our best chance and we blew it with the worst offensive game plan that the Todd Monken could have possibly put together. Everyone wants to blame Lamar, but the Ravens completely abandoned their entire offensive identity yesterday. Lamar never should have been in the position he was having to try to run the entire offense with just his arm.
I watched both of my teams lose in semi-final games this year. The Ravens loss may hurt worse than the Bama loss this year because I felt like Bama overachieved. The Ravens were the best team left and completely blew it.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:56 am to RollTide33
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This is ridiculous. For the NFL to be rigged the players would have to be in on it.
No they wouldn't. If you don't think a script is written for each NFL season, you're crazy. Way too much money involved for the outcome to be in doubt.
If the owners collude, which they do, the only people that would need to know the script would be a few players (guys that get $50m/yr contracts), and coaches. The coaches don't even have to know until their "vested". This is also why the NFL just recycles coaches. It's also why there are very few outsiders. One doesn't need to have played football to coach and run a team. That idea is archaic and moronic. But players are groomed to become coaches. The secrets of how fixed the NFL is are revealed slowly to those guys and they are allowed to continue their careers after they can't play any more. It's not difficult at all to think that the NFL is scripted.
I used to joke about there being a book that you received when you became a coach in the NFL to guide your strategy. Whenever an in-game call was made that was inexplicable, and the question "Why would they do that?" was asked, I'd say, "It's in the book." There's no book any more. They call it "analytics" now.
The NFL playoffs are always predictable.
There's always
-A Dynasty team with the face of the NFL (usually a QB)
-A feel good story like a team that hasn't won a playoff game in X amount of years
-A traditional power that is experiencing resurgence
-A team that just can't seem to get over the hump with a dynamic player
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:03 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
I just like left my body 
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:11 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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Lamar never should have been in the position he was having to try to run the entire offense with just his arm.
This should never happen.
He's a reactionary player, not an anticipatory player. He doesn't know what's going on pre-snap, so he reacts to what the defense does after the fact.
He's super athletic, so he can overcome a lot of what defenses try to do, but if you keep him in the pocket, he's abysmal. It's also why he looks great and unprepared week to week.
I know somebody made a joke, but Joe Flacco would've torched that defensive game plan the Chiefs threw at Lamar Jackson. Let Flacco stay in the pocket? The Ravens would've won Bigly despite not having a true WR1.
That Ravens defense is championship caliber, there's no doubt.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 11:13 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:19 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
The Ravens took themselves out the game not Chiefs defense. They attempted 9 designed runs the entire games, 8 of them on clear run downs. Monken had a game plan doomed to fail. They run the ball 30 plus times a game, it sets up their passes in between the hashes and KC is no world beaters in run D. The linebackers never had to worry about keeping run discipline cause there was never a threat.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:03 pm to Carlton
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The Ravens took themselves out the game not Chiefs defense.
The Chiefs disguised their coverages well. They stayed with 7-8 sometimes 9 men in the box. You don't run vs that. They showed pre-snap that they were selling out to stop the run, (because the Ravens do run so much) then mostly dropped guys because they played a lot of zone and Baltimore never adjusted.
AND Jackson struggled to find the holes in the zone.
And when they did blitz, they got home.
The Steelers do the same thing vs Baltimore. With a lot of success.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:25 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
You sound like an LSU fan
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:31 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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If you don't think a script is written for each NFL season, you're crazy. Way too much money involved for the outcome to be in doubt.
If the owners collude, which they do, the only people that would need to know the script would be a few players (guys that get $50m/yr contracts), and coaches. The coaches don't even have to know until their "vested". This is also why the NFL just recycles coaches. It's also why there are very few outsiders. One doesn't need to have played football to coach and run a team. That idea is archaic and moronic. But players are groomed to become coaches. The secrets of how fixed the NFL is are revealed slowly to those guys and they are allowed to continue their careers after they can't play any more. It's not difficult at all to think that the NFL is scripted.
This is delusional. You think guys like Jerry Jones, Arthur Blank, and Jimmy Haslam, just to name a few, are colluding with the rest of the owners on the outcome of each season and are just agreeing to be embarrassed year after year? No way. Especially not an egomaniac like Jerry Jones.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:43 pm to RollTide33
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not an egomaniac like Jerry Jones.
Right. Idk why he would ever agree to such things. Probably not the fact that his team is now worth $9 fricking billion dollars and he paid less than $150m for them. Blank paid $730m for the Falcons and they're worth approx $4b now.
If you don't think that Jerry Jones and Arthur Blank wouldn't go along with a scripted NFL for BILLIONS of dollars you're naive to the point of absurdity.
The Cowboys rake in $1b in revenue every year. You think Jerry Jones is embarrassed because his team lost in the playoffs? If it was about winning, Jones would've never fired Jimmy Johnson.
Who's delusional?
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:56 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
You most certainly run against that. They ran against full boxes all year, they were the best running team in football. Just because you put 7, 8 or 9 in the box doesn't mean the other team can stop it. You have 2 backs and a running QB. Sometimes you run into a full box to set up something else. You run to wear down the other teams line. Even with that being said you never, even if a team is filling the box only run 9 TIMES. That is malpractice when you run 30 times a game. He ran on 2nd down once. The 49ers beat the Packers in the 2019 NFC championship game running into 7, 8 man boxes cause there was nothing GB could do about. You can say don't run as much but calling single digit runs is going to but every QB in a nearly impossible situation.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:27 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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If it was about winning, Jones would've never fired Jimmy Johnson.
His firing of Johnson was 100% about his ego. Most of these owners were already billionaires when they bought these teams. The NFL will rake in billions a year with or without a script. Also if it was about the money and nothing else they wouldn't have scripted a Niners/Chiefs superbowl.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:25 pm to RollTide33
Yeah the Lions making it in would definitely been more popular. Everyone outside of 49ers and SOME other division rival fans were cheering for them
Posted on 1/29/24 at 7:22 pm to 1BamaRTR
SIAP. The freaking Falcons hired Jimmy Lake.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:57 pm to Alfie Solomons
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:32 pm to BFANLC
Branch says in that article that he did not get the love from Bama fans that he gets from Lion fans.
Last week, Branch said he’d never felt the love and appreciation from fans the way he does as a rookie with the Detroit Lions.
“It means they believe in me,” Branch said, per WXYT-FM, about the ovation he received during player introductions for the NFC playoff game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. “It shows that they respect my game. Yeah, like, I ain’t get that at Bama. For them to do that, it means a lot.”
Last week, Branch said he’d never felt the love and appreciation from fans the way he does as a rookie with the Detroit Lions.
“It means they believe in me,” Branch said, per WXYT-FM, about the ovation he received during player introductions for the NFC playoff game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. “It shows that they respect my game. Yeah, like, I ain’t get that at Bama. For them to do that, it means a lot.”
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:47 am to My2Bits
I could see him saying that. There were Bama fans hating on him just like there are Bama fans that hate on other players. Some people don't know how to not disparage players in their fandom.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:13 am to BFANLC
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I could see him saying that. There were Bama fans hating on him just like there are Bama fans that hate on other players. Some people don't know how to not disparage players in their fandom.
True but it’s certainly not unique to Bama fans. If and when the Lion’s defense starts to suck again Lion’s fans will boo and talk shite about their players too.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:56 am to My2Bits
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“It means they believe in me,” Branch said, per WXYT-FM, about the ovation he received during player introductions for the NFC playoff game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. “It shows that they respect my game. Yeah, like, I ain’t get that at Bama. For them to do that, it means a lot.”
This is the 2nd former player criticize Bama in the past week. What the hell is going on with these guys? I don't really remember many people saying anything negative about Branch though. I know that we hated to see him leave and all wished him good luck. Fricking titty baby players
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:57 am to cdur86
I dunno what Branch is talking about. He was thought of as one of the best defensive players on the team last year.
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