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Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:59 pm to TideSaint
Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:59 pm to TideSaint
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Nah. The 3 month "guess" was based on antibodies. They've now concluded that your memory T-cells will most likely make you immune for years, at least.
If there are already re-infections, this can't possibly be true.
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 4:01 pm to TideWarrior
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I believe he was referring to was the person in Hong Kong, who is being reported as the first documented confirmed case of someone getting it for a second time in the world.
First person to be reinfected that they could prove had previously been cured, but not first person to have a reinfection. It likely means that the previous reinfections were also actual reinfections and not just a continuation of the previous infection.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 4:57 pm to imjustafatkid
NC State boasted before the semester how they had a plan in place and why they would reopen. 
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North Carolina State University said Wednesday that it will close its dorms due to the number of coronavirus clusters on campus it called “untenable.”
The school moved all undergraduate classes online less than a week earlier amid numerous reports of new clusters. Graduate students, meanwhile, will continue in-person classes. The 300 graduate students living on campus will be allowed to stay in on-campus housing, according to the Raleigh News-Observer.
A total of 21 clusters have been reported at the university since the beginning of classes Aug. 10. Four are in on-campus residence halls, while another nine were found in fraternity or sorority houses and the remaining eight were in off-campus apartment complexes.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:01 pm to imjustafatkid
This is what is out there and reported around the world 2 days ago. I take it as the 1st to confirmed to have it a second time, but cold be wrong.
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A healthy 33-year-old man is the first person confirmed to have caught the coronavirus twice, according to unpublished research from the University of Hong Kong. As details of the case emerge, researchers say there is still much we don’t know.
“There have been anecdotal reports of people being reinfected,” says Charlotte Houldcroft at the University of Cambridge, who wasn’t involved in the work. “But this is the first time that there’s good immunological data on the individual.”
[quote]the man first became unwell in Hong Kong in March. His symptoms were mild and included a fever, sore throat and cough. A test confirmed that he had covid-19 on 26 March.
In August, the man travelled from Spain to Hong Kong via the UK. On arrival in Hong Kong on 15 August, he again tested positive for the coronavirus, despite not having any symptoms.
On both occasions, viral samples taken from the man were sequenced to study the virus’s genome. A comparison of the two samples revealed that they appear to be from different lineages – although both are derived from a recent common ancestor, they have several genetic differences.
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:37 pm to TideWarrior
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This is what is out there and reported around the world 2 days ago. I take it as the 1st to confirmed to have it a second time, but cold be wrong.
No that's correct, but by that they mean he's the first person they can prove was virus free. The problem with previous suspected infections is they couldn't verify them totally. They say as much in what you quoted.
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“There have been anecdotal reports of people being reinfected,” says Charlotte Houldcroft at the University of Cambridge, who wasn’t involved in the work. “But this is the first time that there’s good immunological data on the individual.”
This means it is likely this has been happening all along.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 9:00 am to TideWarrior
quote:If strains are mutating such that you can be reinfected within months, the "lock it down until a vaccine" strategy is officially dead. So what exactly are we doing?
On both occasions, viral samples taken from the man were sequenced to study the virus’s genome. A comparison of the two samples revealed that they appear to be from different lineages – although both are derived from a recent common ancestor, they have several genetic differences.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 11:48 am to TideCPA
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If strains are mutating such that you can be reinfected within months, the "lock it down until a vaccine" strategy is officially dead. So what exactly are we doing?
I agree here. We are to the point that it might be better to open things back up including schools and let it runs its course. I mean we are seeing since colleges and some school systems have reopened up that clusters quickly happen but I have yet to see an increase in hospitalizations or deaths from these new outbreaks. Again I am not following it all that closely outside of where I live.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 11:52 am to TideWarrior
Washington, which was the first state to experience a major outbreak, now reports a Rt rating of 0.76.
Wow.
Wow.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 11:56 am to TideWarrior
On another note just found out that these infrared thermometers that you place and aim near the forehead are not very accurate. They are using these in school systems, colleges, for athletes, preschools, and employees at many workplaces upon entry.
My son a few days after his first soccer practice was not feeling well so my wife took his temperature using one of those digital infrared forehead ones. This was what everyone is using and was recommended for her to use as well when seeing children. It showed he had no temperature. But I checked on him and used one that goes in the mouth and his temp was 102.8. So since we live just a few minutes from the UNC hospital I took him there. It was still 102.8 and I found out they said do not use the infrared as they are not accurate at all. Even spoke to a neighbor yesterday that works at Duke and they said the same thing.
So much for that measure.
My son a few days after his first soccer practice was not feeling well so my wife took his temperature using one of those digital infrared forehead ones. This was what everyone is using and was recommended for her to use as well when seeing children. It showed he had no temperature. But I checked on him and used one that goes in the mouth and his temp was 102.8. So since we live just a few minutes from the UNC hospital I took him there. It was still 102.8 and I found out they said do not use the infrared as they are not accurate at all. Even spoke to a neighbor yesterday that works at Duke and they said the same thing.
So much for that measure.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 12:08 pm to TideWarrior
Well, daughter had a migraine Monday night. We told her to take her temp. It was 99. She took a Benadryl and went to sleep. Felt fine the next morning. She has to get tested twice a week anyway with her position in the athletic department. Got tested Wed morning. They called this morning and she’s positive. She’s coming home for 10 days
ETA: Even though they gave me a rapid test and I was negative, work sent me home and my wife got sent home from her job since daughter was home visiting this weekend.
ETA: Even though they gave me a rapid test and I was negative, work sent me home and my wife got sent home from her job since daughter was home visiting this weekend.
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:35 pm to phil4bama
We were lucky to go to UNC as their labs have about 12 hour turnaround time for the test. The main concern is my wife is back at work and visits half the day cares in the county to see clients.
He did not enjoy the swab up the nose. He had to get 11 stitches in his foot back in June from a mtn bike accident and never shed a tear but the swab up the nose was not the same result.
He did not enjoy the swab up the nose. He had to get 11 stitches in his foot back in June from a mtn bike accident and never shed a tear but the swab up the nose was not the same result.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 1:57 pm to TideWarrior
Here in Alabama, we had been getting our temperature's checked every morning when we walked into the building. I'm a school teacher and we, the teachers in our system, have been back since August 6th. On the 25th, our administrators were told NOT to bother scanning temperatures anymore. Our kids started back today with our student body being split. Students with last name A-L will come today and then starting next week, on Mondays and Tuesdays. M-Z will come tomorrow and then next week on Thursdays and Fridays. Wednesdays will be for sanitizing the buildings. This will take place for the first 9 weeks and will be reviewed to see if we should continue with this schedule or start to return to 5 days a week. Let me add that our system is offering 3 types of learning options this fall. Traditional ( face to face), blended (only in person for some testing) or virtual ( everything done from home). The idea is to offer these 3 methods for the first semester and evaluate at the break.
Add to all of this craziness and I have decided that this is going to be the year that I announce my retirement. Never thought I would decide to go out with our education system in such a mess.
Add to all of this craziness and I have decided that this is going to be the year that I announce my retirement. Never thought I would decide to go out with our education system in such a mess.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:14 pm to UAgrad93
Going out next year ... don’t care what shape the system is in at that time
Posted on 8/27/20 at 2:16 pm to phil4bama
Hope your daughter is doing well Phil. Mine is positive also and quarantining at her apartment with two other roommates who are positive .... she has been in quarantine about the whole time she has been there
Posted on 8/27/20 at 4:50 pm to Bear88
Thanks Bear. Everybody is fine. Hope yours are well too.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 6:06 pm to phil4bama
This is what’s going to be Alabama’s downfall that will send the kids home and may kill sports. Daughter has a headache and a questionable fever Monday night (99 degrees orally). She feels fine the next morning, no temp, carries on. Goes to her normally scheduled testing early Wednesday morning. Thursday morning early, she gets a call from her boss in the AD that she’s positive.
Now the protocol at this point that the U is hammering as their message is to pack a bag of essentials and wait for a call from someone in administration of what’s next. You are supposed to be picked up and escorted to a quarantine dorm and placed there for 10 days. You also have the option of going home or being picked up by a parent. This is supposed to happen pretty promptly. Daughter decided to come home, got in her car and drove to PCB. It’s now 6pm and we are still waiting on that phone call. I’m fairly certain administration got the test result as soon or before her boss did considering where it came from. She could be in her room dead or out partying for all Bama knows.
You’re already in a precarious position not using rapid tests allowing a 24 hour window where the asymptomatic can spread it unknowingly. Then you compound the problem by not being able to execute your containment plan. Is there one or two people trying to handle all these positive kids and get them in the system? The president and chancellor kept bragging on the robust system they had in place to deal with COVID. Three weeks in, your “robust” plan is failing miserably through poor planning and even poorer adapting and adjusting. Yet you want to blame it all on the kids. I’m very disappointed in what I am seeing transpire from the people I had faith in, the people in charge of the entire UA system.
Now the protocol at this point that the U is hammering as their message is to pack a bag of essentials and wait for a call from someone in administration of what’s next. You are supposed to be picked up and escorted to a quarantine dorm and placed there for 10 days. You also have the option of going home or being picked up by a parent. This is supposed to happen pretty promptly. Daughter decided to come home, got in her car and drove to PCB. It’s now 6pm and we are still waiting on that phone call. I’m fairly certain administration got the test result as soon or before her boss did considering where it came from. She could be in her room dead or out partying for all Bama knows.
You’re already in a precarious position not using rapid tests allowing a 24 hour window where the asymptomatic can spread it unknowingly. Then you compound the problem by not being able to execute your containment plan. Is there one or two people trying to handle all these positive kids and get them in the system? The president and chancellor kept bragging on the robust system they had in place to deal with COVID. Three weeks in, your “robust” plan is failing miserably through poor planning and even poorer adapting and adjusting. Yet you want to blame it all on the kids. I’m very disappointed in what I am seeing transpire from the people I had faith in, the people in charge of the entire UA system.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 6:42 pm to TideWarrior
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On another note just found out that these infrared thermometers that you place and aim near the forehead are not very accurate. They are using these in school systems, colleges, for athletes, preschools, and employees at many workplaces upon entry.
This has been a running joke amongst my EMS coworkers for a while. Take one, point it at 3 different places on the forehead and you'll get 3 different readings. The touch temporal ones are usually reasonably close but even they will often be off by a degree or more.
About the positive college students. I've posted over and over again about how masks don't do much at all in a place like Wal-Mart but for people spending extended times in close quarters they are invaluable. The only way they're going to avoid repeated outbreaks is to be draconian in making the students wear them in groups.
I'd be completely comfortable sitting right beside a known positive for an hour if we're both masked.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 11:12 pm to JustGetItRight
Absolutely phenomenal RNC speech by TRUMP!
CNN/ABC other liberal networks melting.
70 minute inspiring speech, American flags, opera singer, fireworks etc...
CNN/ABC other liberal networks melting.
70 minute inspiring speech, American flags, opera singer, fireworks etc...
Posted on 8/28/20 at 2:07 am to Canyon16
Great speech!!!
Posted on 8/28/20 at 12:45 pm to Canyon16
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Absolutely phenomenal RNC speech by TRUMP!
CNN/ABC other liberal networks melting.
70 minute inspiring speech, American flags, opera singer, fireworks etc...
Can not be true because of Trump we might not have football and other sports. At least according to Biden.
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Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s campaign blasted the Trump administration’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic in a new ad released Friday that highlights the cancellation of sporting events this year.
The ad, titled “Anthem,” plays a rendition of the nation anthem over images of empty sports stadiums and fields across the country. It also shows empty pews in a dark church, as well as empty beaches and an empty classroom.
“Trump put America on the sidelines,” the ad says. “Let’s get back in the game.”
The sad part is people tend to vote off the info they get from these commercials that have very little truth in them.
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