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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:16 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:16 pm to TidalSurge1
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Gatherings of up to 10 people are allowed and people are allowed to attend indoor Church services. In stadium seating, no more than 10 people will be within any other person's social distancing zone. People don't have to go to the game if they don't want to and people can wear masks. Imo, people should be allowed to go to football games.
In NC that has been moved up to 25 except in Durham(Duke University). Durham has not relaxed or reopened anything yet like the rest of the state.
I also never said people would not be allowed to attend just we will not see a full stadium, at least not in the beginning. The real issue will be season ticket holders. To accommodate some standard of social distancing everyone will have to adjust even them. So people will need to get moved around. I have no idea how many season ticket holders UA has. But if only 50000 people will be allowed into the stadium for example I assume season ticket holders will get priority. Again what I was told suites should not be affected.
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Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:18 pm to TideWarrior
You may be right but I think fall camp will start on time .... hoping anyway 
Going to be interesting with seating in stadiums but I at least want to be able to watch it on TV
On a side note, I bet the voluntary workouts will not be so voluntary either
Going to be interesting with seating in stadiums but I at least want to be able to watch it on TV
On a side note, I bet the voluntary workouts will not be so voluntary either
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:21 pm to TideWarrior
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is conflating the results of two different types of coronavirus tests, distorting several important metrics and providing the country with an inaccurate picture of the state of the pandemic. We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus. The upshot is that the government’s disease-fighting agency is overstating the country’s ability to test people who are sick with COVID-19. The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons.
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This is not merely a technical error. States have set quantitative guidelines for reopening their economies based on these flawed data points.
Several states—including Pennsylvania, the site of one of the country’s largest outbreaks, as well as Texas, Georgia, and Vermont—are blending the data in the same way. Virginia likewise mixed viral and antibody test results until last week, but it reversed course and the governor apologized for the practice after it was covered by the Richmond Times-Dispatch and The Atlantic. Maine similarly separated its data on Wednesday; Vermont authorities claimed they didn’t even know they were doing this.
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The widespread use of the practice means that it remains difficult to know exactly how much the country’s ability to test people who are actively sick with COVID-19 has improved.
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“The numbers have outstripped what I was expecting,” Jha said. “My sense is people are really surprised that we’ve moved as much as we have in such a short time period. I think we all expected a move and we all expected improvement, but the pace and size of that improvement has been a big surprise.”
The intermingling of viral and antibody tests suggests that some of those gains might be illusory. If even a third of the country’s gain in testing has come by expanding antibody tests, not viral tests, then its ability to detect an outbreak is much smaller than it seems. There is no way to ascertain how much of the recent increase in testing is from antibody tests until the most populous states in the country—among them Texas, Georgia, and Pennsylvania—show their residents everything in the data.
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So CDC has inflated testing numbers and have been inaccurately reporting results along with a handful of states.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 12:24 pm to Bear88
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You may be right but I think fall camp will start on time .... hoping anyway
I hope so for the players and everyone as it will be a sign in right direction for the country.
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Going to be interesting with seating in stadiums but I at least want to be able to watch it on TV
Same as I watch more now a days on TV. We have a large viewing party at a local restaurant I go to. I do try to attend at least one game a season now. Prefer away games to a stadium yet visited.
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On a side note, I bet the voluntary workouts will not be so voluntary either
I am sure and probably another Saban rule will be put in place. Already got many rivals upset about the watches and monitoring their players.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:04 pm to TideWarrior
Judging by the number of cars out at lunch, everyone is basically over it.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:30 pm to TideCPA
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:35 pm to RollTide4Ever
UAH just canceled hockey season.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 1:49 pm to TideWarrior
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Except coaches will not be allowed to coach or train the players. It only allows for voluntary and player organized workouts.
That's the only kind of working out that's normally allowed in June and July.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 2:14 pm to RollTide4Ever
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UAH just canceled hockey season.
Look upthread. They didn't cancel hockey season, they canceled the hockey program.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 2:43 pm to imjustafatkid
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Don't be surprised if you see some D-1 programs starting to cut costly non-revenue sports too.
Good.
No, not good. These sports don't exist without football revenue, that is a certainty. But these sports produce nearly all of your Olympic athletes and the participants have really no other avenue to pursue their sport and life after their sport. We aren't Russia or China where our Olympic athletes are state sponsored employees. And these athletes train longer and harder than the "revenue" sports by any measure. Even at the elite high school level a swimmer trains twice a day, 5,000 plus yards per session, 5 to 6 days a week, 24/7/365. All while trying to balance that with class and a social life. So they either evolve into excellent time managers or something has to give. I'm proud that my daughter maintained a 4.61 GPA in all AP and DE classes and was a member and officer in many other clubs and honor societies in high school while swimming well enough to get to Florida High School state finals in multiple strokes and multiple seasons.
Yeah, I'm biased because I've got skin in the game with a kid who could have continued her swimming career at a small college but chose to attend the Honors college in Tuscaloosa instead because to her, education now takes precedence over her love of swimming because she's gone almost as far as her swimming talent can take her. She had a lot of interest from DIII schools and some DII schools, but realized she wasn't getting a D1 offer and she's ready to move on. Matter of fact, one of the schools pursuing her also dropped their swim program last week. What if she had agreed to attend that school to swim? Where would we be now? Scrambling to find a school, that's where. And most schools application deadlines for 2020 are long past.
These things have a huge trickle down affect. I appreciate that football pays the bills and I know they usually resent the money being spent on other programs but that Olympic ecosystem and all the kids and coaches involved depend on football to support their programs. Otherwise, hundreds, if not thousands of kids no longer have a way to attend school and coaches are out of a job. It matters in a lot of ways. I've always been a proponent of Olympic sports programs in college, but even more so since I have experienced the effects of it firsthand. These kids may not be the glamour athletes or the faces of the athletic department, but they are hard core, elite athletes who bust their arse for the love of their sport that most students and Alumni never see or care about. In some ways, doesn't that make them a better representative of the school than the football player that is there just to get to the league and doesn't give a rat's arse about the color of the jersey?
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 5/23/20 at 3:23 pm to phil4bama
I'm of the opinion we waste too much resources on some sports, that's hindrance in our soccer/futbol development imo.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 4:15 pm to phil4bama
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In some ways, doesn't that make them a better representative of the school than the football player that is there just to get to the league and doesn't give a rat's arse about the color of the jersey?
I read a article one time that says that student athletes in sports outside of football, basketball, and baseball have a tendency to give more back to the school as alum then the big 3. They stay involved longer at multiple levels and become big financial donors.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 4:17 pm to RollTide4Ever
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I'm of the opinion we waste too much resources on some sports, that's hindrance in our soccer/futbol development imo.
The lack of development there starts at the youth level with our current youth club model. A model that 95% of the spots are out of the reach many who have a true passion for it. The model is a country club model design around winning and not youth development.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:40 pm to TideWarrior
I don’t disagree with you but most youth sports programs are that way. Club/travel teams are the only way a lot of these sports are financially viable. Baseball/softball, swim, volleyball, cheer, gymnastics, soccer all seem to follow that model. What’s the alternative that gets the kids exposed to the best competition in the region? And COVID19 has put the hurt on these programs as well.
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 5/23/20 at 7:02 pm to phil4bama
I'm under the impression is more important to practice than play travel soccer esp. at younger ages.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 7:08 pm to RollTide4Ever
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I'm under the impression is more important to practice than play travel soccer esp. at younger ages.
Free play is probably the most important. I started a program in my area a few years ago for free play no coaching. Every now and then I to run a parent off or coach off. We go once week during the fall and spring season and am I getting around 200+ each time. The kids have a blast and the parents have to sit back and just watch. Over half the kids are Hispanic which free play is how so many other countries develop their players.
In regards to practice to be honest, especially at the younger ages we over coach in this country.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 7:11 pm to phil4bama
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I don’t disagree with you but most youth sports programs are that way. Club/travel teams are the only way a lot of these sports are financially viable. Baseball/softball, swim, volleyball, cheer, gymnastics, soccer all seem to follow that model. What’s the alternative that gets the kids exposed to the best competition in the region? And COVID19 has put the hurt on these programs as well.
I agree but in the majority of this country it is not viable and why so many kids are left out. It has become the haves and have nots.
I mean one of the local clubs here(also largest in the state and country) for U8 acadamy with club, team, and other fees, not including travel expenses, you pay close to $4000 a year. That is for 7yos. Swimming can be a lot more then that here.
Posted on 5/23/20 at 9:05 pm to TideWarrior
Don’t we look like a bunch of hypocrites now?
Lambasted the Chinese government and the WHO for falsifying COVID19 data and covering up the severity of outbreaks. So what do our state and local officials do the minute we start lifting the restrictions? Lie and falsify data to keep things open.
Lambasted the Chinese government and the WHO for falsifying COVID19 data and covering up the severity of outbreaks. So what do our state and local officials do the minute we start lifting the restrictions? Lie and falsify data to keep things open.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:47 am to phil4bama
Link?
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:04 am to East Coast Band
No link, I’m citing the post from above in this thread. It appears to have come from The Atlantic magazine.
There’s also the report from Georgia about how they were misreporting case numbers by date, shuffling the days around to show a continued downward trend in the data. Instead of showing the days sequentially, they would manipulate them so the downward trend would remain intact so April 28th might appear AFTER May 1st to keep the slope downward. LINK. Georgia is not alone in this practice either as the link shows.
There’s also the report from Georgia about how they were misreporting case numbers by date, shuffling the days around to show a continued downward trend in the data. Instead of showing the days sequentially, they would manipulate them so the downward trend would remain intact so April 28th might appear AFTER May 1st to keep the slope downward. LINK. Georgia is not alone in this practice either as the link shows.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 5:06 am
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