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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:43 am to GenesChin
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:43 am to GenesChin
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Also, completely OT but how do ya'll feel about the Texas kids flooding the student population rolls at Bama?
I don't mean impact on the school, I mean the opinion of how they represent the alumni base
I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but I think taking smart Texas kids who are getting screwed out of UT and A&M because they went to good high schools is smart. I like our Texas students personally.
Giving all this money in scholarships to students from other states doesn't seem fair to the Alabama taxpayer though especially when a ton of our grads are immediately leaving the state after college.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:08 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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I'm not sure I fully understand the question,
The correlation between ahole fans and "from Texas" seems to be extremely high, especially student/young alumni ages. It's like if you took your standard arrogant ahole UTx fan then gave him a winning relevant program
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Giving all this money in scholarships to students from other states doesn't seem fair to the Alabama taxpayer though
That's not exactly how it works. Out of state students are extremely profitable for the university, often times even with fairly large scholarships. The scholarships are for most students like discounts instead of the university losing $ based on admitting them.
Most of the expenses of the university are fixed costs and don't increase by adding an additional student to enrollment.
In fact, it is advantageous financially to add more stduents to defray these fixed costs amongst a larger student population pool. By accepting more out of state students, even those on scholarship, they can reduce the average expense per student
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:29 pm to GenesChin
I'm more worried about our high Yankee population as far as obnoxious fans go
I'm not sure you understood what I was saying with the second point. My point was at UA there's little to no benefit to being from Alabama scholarship wise. Tax money funds the University. Is it fair to the people paying those taxes that they aren't receiving better scholarships to the University than kids from other states? It has nothing to do with rather it's profitable or not.
I'm not sure you understood what I was saying with the second point. My point was at UA there's little to no benefit to being from Alabama scholarship wise. Tax money funds the University. Is it fair to the people paying those taxes that they aren't receiving better scholarships to the University than kids from other states? It has nothing to do with rather it's profitable or not.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:42 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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My point was at UA there's little to no benefit to being from Alabama scholarship wise.
The scholarship is embedded in the fact that instate tuition is significantly lower than OOS tuition. If you want a better example, look at Illinois which in state is barely a discount
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Tax money funds the University.
Only a small percentage of the University
According to the 2015 Alabama financial report, tuition accounting for $419,482,065 compared to $144,234,844 in state legislature funding
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Is it fair to the people paying those taxes that they aren't receiving better scholarships to the University than kids from other states?
You are viewing this in an isolated scholarship budget analysis and not a wholistic picture of net cash flow by adding an instate scholarship vs OOS scholarship student
Again, you are ignoring the embedded "scholarship" of instate tuition rates that out of state students aren't getting.
Additionally, considering that state appropriations don't really change by adding more instate students, the marginal expense cost of an OOS vs Instate student is equivalent
The difference though is an out of state student on a $17k/yr scholarship is still paying $11.1k tuition > instate tuition at ~$10.8k
So the instate student scholarship profile needs to be significantly better to justify a scholarship in which the opportunity cost is signfiicantly hire
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:03 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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I'm more worried about our high Yankee population as far as obnoxious fans go
I made some good friend's from the Washington metro, but the girls from NY can kiss my arse.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:05 pm to Gary Busey
wrong thread
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:03 pm to GenesChin
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Only a small percentage of the University
According to the 2015 Alabama financial report, tuition accounting for $419,482,065 compared to $144,234,844 in state legislature funding
It doesn't really matter what the percentage is. The point is taxpayers help fund the university.
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The difference though is an out of state student on a $17k/yr scholarship is still paying $11.1k tuition > instate tuition at ~$10.8k
A lot of students get a lot more than $17k/yr. I'm from Tennessee, and I get everything- tuition, books, study abroad/research, general stipend. If I leave the state when I graduate, I don't think I will have provided much benefit to the taxpayers who help fund the university.
Obviously the system worked out for me, and personally I prefer it because it rewards the best students. I can understand why people would support a lottery system though. If you had a solid student with low 20s ACT, you'd be better off living in Georgia or Tennessee.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:05 pm to Gary Busey
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I made some good friend's from the Washington metro, but the girls from NY can kiss my arse.
I'm actually fine with the Yankees, but most aren't great fans imo
Posted on 3/17/18 at 3:39 pm to GenesChin
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I'm not saying g Watford is UGA bound, but to suggest that Watford is in "great shape" after Crean is hired at a SEC school is a head scratcher
Huh? We are in great shape with Watford even after the Crean hire. Saying we're in great shape doesn't equate to "Bama lock". I mean look at the post he was responding to. Saying after the Crean hire that Watford will go to UGA is ridiculous. Saying we're still in great shape with a recruit that has openly watched and cheered on our team on twitter for 2 years isn't a head-scratcher in the least.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 3:41 pm to BigBird09
Yep those pesky facts and stuff lok
Posted on 3/17/18 at 3:45 pm to Bamainva40
Not to mention one of his best friends is on our roster and he comes to games. I get that crean has history with his family but Avery started recruiting trendon the moment the first press conference ended.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 9:46 pm to Bamainva40
Updated the OP, looking forward to an interesting offseason.
Massive recruiting cycle for Avery and co.
Massive recruiting cycle for Avery and co.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:26 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Things I'd like to see improve:
-Better ball handling from our guards. If you expect to make deep runs in the NCAAT, you have to expect great guard play. It doesn't bode well for us if Petty dribbles too high, Avery Jr can't escape one-on-one pressure, and Ingram falls down every time he drives.
-Boxing out. Rebounding improved down the stretch in my eyes, but there's still a huge issue with this team ball watching and losing their man. Often leading to more 2nd chance points.
-Play more uptempo and better ball movement. Enough of the simplistic big man coming to the top of the key to set the pick and roll. Play in more sets, find ways to attack the zone, and set better screens to create separation. Ultimately, this could help us find an identity offensively.
-Shoot more mid-range jumpers. Sexton started to open up his game more late in the season when he started doing this, but he's likely gone after this year. We weren't that bad offensively this year in FG% (46%), but the eye test would tell you we are garbage when it came to banking open shots. I would love to see Reese, Petty, and Mack start the games taking them early and often to get into rhythm, then start taking shots from 3.
-Speaking of 3s, we finished 301st in the country in 3-point FG%. Numbers speak for themselves on why that needs to improve. If you attempt over 700 3s, I would at least like to see our percentage closer to 35%, rather closer to under 30%.
-Lastly, fouls. We can bitch and complain about the officiating, but our team is downright stupid when it comes to committing fouls. I thought we were going to set a new record for illegal screens at the beginning of the year. Alabama finished 320nd in the country in fewest fouls- only Arkansas and Tennessee had more.
-Better ball handling from our guards. If you expect to make deep runs in the NCAAT, you have to expect great guard play. It doesn't bode well for us if Petty dribbles too high, Avery Jr can't escape one-on-one pressure, and Ingram falls down every time he drives.
-Boxing out. Rebounding improved down the stretch in my eyes, but there's still a huge issue with this team ball watching and losing their man. Often leading to more 2nd chance points.
-Play more uptempo and better ball movement. Enough of the simplistic big man coming to the top of the key to set the pick and roll. Play in more sets, find ways to attack the zone, and set better screens to create separation. Ultimately, this could help us find an identity offensively.
-Shoot more mid-range jumpers. Sexton started to open up his game more late in the season when he started doing this, but he's likely gone after this year. We weren't that bad offensively this year in FG% (46%), but the eye test would tell you we are garbage when it came to banking open shots. I would love to see Reese, Petty, and Mack start the games taking them early and often to get into rhythm, then start taking shots from 3.
-Speaking of 3s, we finished 301st in the country in 3-point FG%. Numbers speak for themselves on why that needs to improve. If you attempt over 700 3s, I would at least like to see our percentage closer to 35%, rather closer to under 30%.
-Lastly, fouls. We can bitch and complain about the officiating, but our team is downright stupid when it comes to committing fouls. I thought we were going to set a new record for illegal screens at the beginning of the year. Alabama finished 320nd in the country in fewest fouls- only Arkansas and Tennessee had more.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 3:11 pm to Gary Busey
TideSports article said this about Tevin Mack
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reportedly approached practice sessions in his redshirt year with a passion to be a star.
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This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/18/18 at 6:03 pm to Gary Busey
I don't mind most defensive fouls, but our screens need to be fixed. There's really no excuse for how many of those we got.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 6:33 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Yeah, the defensive fouls show effort. I will say it's aggravating to see them commit them around the perimeter with the shot clock at less than 5 seconds.
Really, my number one hope is they fix their ball handling. It's led to so many careless turnovers, that just add to our scoring droughts. I thought Avery Jr improved late in the year.
Really, my number one hope is they fix their ball handling. It's led to so many careless turnovers, that just add to our scoring droughts. I thought Avery Jr improved late in the year.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 6:44 pm to Gary Busey
I really want Key to leave and for Avery to hit the GradTransfer market hard for a shooter.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 6:56 pm to mistaken4193
We might be maxed out scholarship wise.
I'm really intrigued in Diante Wood. I can't stop watching his highlights.
I'm really intrigued in Diante Wood. I can't stop watching his highlights.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 6:57 pm to mistaken4193
Good lord. The kid had knee surgery and missed 10 games and had a sophomore slump. Give the guy a fricking break. He played really well as a freshman.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:26 pm to Gary Busey
I hope Wood can be a Bryce Brown type for us. I think Fleming is a very intriguing prospect. He's the opposite of the modern average big man.
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