Started By
Message

re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)

Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25197 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

This season, you can tell that injuries have had a dramatic effect on things. Still sucks to see guys out of control and making stupid arse decisions though


*cough... cough... Shack... cough
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:41 pm to
I watched Frank Martin's press conference after the game last night and he started it out by saying he hopes Juwan Gary is ok and that he heard Gary has a separated shoulder.

If it is a separated shoulder it typically takes anywhere from 2 weeks to 12 weeks to recover from depending on the severity. It doesn't usually require surgery.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41018 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

It was a bit of a joke on both but I started looking at it after those two really tough beats by LSU and Bama. I believe we were still top 20 around then and had our SQ record at least two or three games above our current record.

At the time it made sense to me (bias included) because it felt like in many of the games we were getting decent looks but just were not falling. We seem to have adjusted more and now it only has us one game above our current record. In that very limited and bias take, it seems to be on to something.


Yeah, I dig it. The more analytical/efficiency data I can read the better.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I dig it. The more analytical/efficiency data I can read the better.



Agreed - especially data that can help give some quantitative analysis to explain whether we truly are shooting bad shots or if we're just off in general. Because those 2 things are very different.

Basically, the basketball equivalent of looking at BABIP and hard hit rate in baseball. If your BABIP is .202 and you are hitting the ball hard......you are just on an unlucky run. If your shot quality is high and you are a proven above average shooter.......
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25197 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

SummerOfGeorge
To follow up on Robot's more specific February collapse timeframe

From February 10 to the end of the regular season - Last 3 years (record on Feb 9)

2021 : ?-? (16-5, 11-1)
2020 : 3-5 (13-10, 5-5)
2019 : 2-6 (15-8, 6-4)
2018 : 2-5 (15-9, 6-5)

Overall : 7-16


Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41018 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Basically, the basketball equivalent of looking at BABIP and hard hit rate in baseball.


Yep and kudos to baseball for being way ahead of the curve on stuff like that despite being the "old and boring" sport.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41018 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Starting off with @AlabamaMBB, who Jahvon Quinerly shot to a win over @GamecockMBB



Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41018 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Alabama shot their average inside 5' (~56%, which is below NCAA average)

but from 5'-10' they were a pitiful 11% (down from 30% on the year)


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Alabama shot their average inside 5' (~56%, which is below NCAA average)

but from 5'-10' they were a pitiful 11% (down from 30% on the year)



I'd love to see a spliced video of all our shots from inside 10 feet. I guarantee that if we were grading them "no contest/slight contest/tough contest" that 75% of them would fall in the #2 or #3 category.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:04 pm to
Does anyone understand how Tennessee is ahead of us in the NET rankings?

We are 5 and 3 in Quad 1 games they are 4 and 4

We are 7 and 1 in Quad 2 games they are 4 and 0

Q 1 and Quad 2 combined we are 12 and 4 - they are 4 and 4

Oh yeah and we beat them on their home court.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Does anyone understand how Tennessee is ahead of us in the NET rankings?

We are 5 and 3 in Quad 1 games they are 4 and 4

We are 7 and 1 in Quad 2 games they are 4 and 0

Q 1 and Quad 2 combined we are 12 and 4 - they are 4 and 4

Oh yeah and we beat them on their home court.



Not really, no. Probably some combination of the fact that our efficiencies are similar and they don't have a Q2 or Q3 loss (we have 1 Q2 and 1 Q3).
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25197 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:09 pm to
You wouldn't think Western Kentucky would make that big a difference. Hopefully they keep winning and move up to a quad 2 loss.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

You wouldn't think Western Kentucky would make that big a difference. Hopefully they keep winning and move up to a quad 2 loss.



They need to sweep Rice and then at least win 1 of 2 from North Texas.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41018 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:25 pm to
Mississippi State, Furman and Providence dropping to Q3 is worrying me.

ETA: worry is too strong of a word, but you know what I mean.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Probably some combination of the fact that our efficiencies are similar and they don't have a Q2 or Q3 loss



Houston has a quad 2 and quad 3 loss and they are ranked above us and Tennessee in the Net.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 1:52 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:55 pm to
The Torvik website is absolutely incredible - especially to be free. I have no idea why he doesn't charge.

Using their T-Ranketology Forecast - which uses their expected win loss to extrapolate out the entire season across all of NCAA and then run NET/ELO/etc and takes resumes and compares to past resumes and their seedings to estimate the tournament


If we....
- Win (Georgia, @ A&M, Vandy, Auburn)
- Lose (@ Arky, @ State)
- SECT - beat UGA, lose to VOLS

- 21-8 (15-3) (SEC Champions)
- NET #8 (Q1 5-5, Q2 8-3, Q3 6-0, Q4 2-0)
- #2 Seed

Rest of SEC
#2 Tennessee (#9 NET)
#4 Missouri (#28 NET)
#6 Florida (#21 NET)
#7 Arkansas (#22 NET)
#9 LSU (#36 NET)
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 1:56 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Houston has a quad 2 and quad 3 loss and they are ranked above us and Tennessee in the Net.


They are 17th in adj offensive eff and 5th in adj defensive eff though
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 1:58 pm to
Our plummeting offensive efficiency is hurting us as much as anything in the NET

We've dropped from around #15 to #34 in like 2 weeks.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18099 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

They are 17th in adj offensive eff and 5th in adj defensive eff though


Yeah cause they play a lot of terrible teams. They have only played two quad 1 games. 8 of their 17 games were against Quad 3 teams.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Our plummeting offensive efficiency is hurting us as much as anything in the NET

We've dropped from around #15 to #34 in like 2 weeks.


Its still crazy the combo of tempo and defense, you have actually passed Gonzaga in that regard.

There are only three teams in the top 20 pace that also have top 30 defenses, Alabama, Gonzaga and Arkansas. Having said that, the first two are very clearly ahead of the last.

In the last two weeks it seems like many teams have done flips on their normal trends. That thread you created on tRant really showcased that. For most of the year Arkansas has leaned more on the their offense but we have done a reverse in that regard.
first pageprev pagePage 724 of 1562Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on X and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter