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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:23 am to paperwasp
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:23 am to paperwasp
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I still think this team was very capable - the lack of consistency that we've seen over the past few months just finally caught up with us.
Herb missing like 25 consecutive 3s to end the season and Petty being ice cold from outside with the exception of the Maryland game took our offense from good to pedestrian. And if not for JQ turning it on late in the season it would have been flat out bad. I appreciate what the seniors have done for the program, but we've got to have more consistent players to really take the next step as a program.
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:26 am to paperwasp
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Still not sure how we got so out of rhythm offensively.
It's how they play defense. Our gameplan was pretty awful. The only way to exploit teams that like to pack it in on defense is to shoot over them until they start coming out to meet you and open up driving and passing lanes. As poorly as we have shot lately I'm not sure it would have made a difference though.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:31 am to Robot Santa
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Herb missing like 25 consecutive 3s to end the season
We would've never made it this far without Herb.
That being said, early in the season we were all pointing out how we'd be in trouble if our offense went through him.
He was money down low when the game was on the line. Bringing the ball up the court and jacking up threes, not so much.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:35 am to paperwasp
I thought the offense really got stagnant the last 7 or 8 games when the ball was in Herbs hands.
I love Herb and Petty but I bet Turnovers go way down next year without them. Ballhandling was a weakness for Both IMO
Great thing about next year is we will always have an elite ball handler on the court with JD and JQ
I love Herb and Petty but I bet Turnovers go way down next year without them. Ballhandling was a weakness for Both IMO
Great thing about next year is we will always have an elite ball handler on the court with JD and JQ
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 8:37 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:36 am to paperwasp
Everything Nate Oats said after Alabama's Sweet 16 loss to UCLA (BOL)
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 8:37 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:43 am to Allthatfades
A serious question: what happened to the team that was annihilating everyone in January and running roughshod over the SEC? My only possibility is Bruner getting hurt, effectively eliminating our rim protection and steady, albeit merely adequate inside presence. I don’t think Gary had gotten enough minutes to really flourish yet and it left us lacking in the middle and our entire offense suffered. Is there something else I’m missing? I firmly believe the January version of Alabama basketball was Final Four caliber but the only time we came even close to that was vs Maryland and even that wasn’t a great imitation. The closer we got to the end of the season, the more we played ugly and scratched and clawed and fought our way to wins. What was the difference?
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:50 am to phil4bama
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The closer we got to the end of the season, the more we played ugly and scratched and clawed and fought our way to wins. What was the difference?
We could point out numerous nagging issues that all seemed to confluence last night, but one of the less obvious IMO was Primo. He did a great job of picking up the slack when we needed help early on, and when he disappeared in games we tended to struggle.
Not sure why his minutes were so limited last night, especially with our foul trouble.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:55 am to phil4bama
Bruner got hurt and with Reese only shooting 25% from 3 we could no longer pull the other teams 5 away from the rim. Making it harder to make layups and finish
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:56 am to paperwasp
Yeah I did not understand Primo playing such limited minutes last night. Conventional wisdom says to default to your seniors in a tight game in March, but Herb and Petty just weren't playing good basketball last night. Primo and Ellis were having better games.
As for the whole January thing, playing your best game 5+ games in a row is pretty rare. That wasn't the norm for us though. Not even close.
As for the whole January thing, playing your best game 5+ games in a row is pretty rare. That wasn't the norm for us though. Not even close.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:59 am to paperwasp
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can't really recall many drives to the basket that resulted in a dish for a open look. We seemed to try and force a lot of shots, both in the lane and around the arc.
I thought Cronin had an excellent game plan. The few times Bama drove and tried to kick it out, UCLA was standing right in the passing lanes and picked it off. They didn’t collapse on the drive but stayed outside with their man. It was very effective when our drivers couldn’t finish at the rim.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:07 am to Robot Santa
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:07 am to phil4bama
Proud of the season but 11 for 25 from the free throw is nothing but lack of confidence and concentration. You have to think how many of those were one and ones. Missed free throws always come back to bite you.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:11 am to mistaken4193
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I thought the offense really got stagnant the last 7 or 8 games when the ball was in Herbs hands.
This. All day long.
When was the last game he played like you'd expect the SEC POTY to play? That's been very rare the last month.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:13 am to phil4bama
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A serious question: what happened to the team that was annihilating everyone in January and running roughshod over the SEC? My only possibility is Bruner getting hurt, effectively eliminating our rim protection and steady, albeit merely adequate inside presence. I don’t think Gary had gotten enough minutes to really flourish yet and it left us lacking in the middle and our entire offense suffered. Is there something else I’m missing? I firmly believe the January version of Alabama basketball was Final Four caliber but the only time we came even close to that was vs Maryland and even that wasn’t a great imitation. The closer we got to the end of the season, the more we played ugly and scratched and clawed and fought our way to wins. What was the difference?
This was a team that had good talent, but was lacking.
We did not have true dogs. I’m talking guys you want to have the ball when you need a spark.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but there was a little something missing in the mental games of most of our guys. When the tension rose, they got tight and didn’t play well.
In January those guys were playing loose and easy, and they were still a bit unknown and perhaps under estimated.
Oats did a great job of uniting these guys and getting them to play tough and with passion and love for each other. That was awesome. They played great defense and that is what got them to where they were. Put together 2 or three more Quinnerly types who have a little more height, and a solid big man and get them to buy-in and play defense like Herb, Petty and Reese and then we will be a legit contender.
That said, this team embodied what we love about amateur athletics. They will always be a school favorite. Hopefully people will show up to give them some love when they get back from Indy.
So, how’s ole Frankie King these days? Guy was like 6’0 160 pounds as a 14 year old. One of the only guys that I never got a hit off of.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:15 am to phil4bama
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I thought Cronin had an excellent game plan. The few times Bama drove and tried to kick it out, UCLA was standing right in the passing lanes and picked it off.
I love Oats, but it was fair to say he was outcoached last night. From the scenario you described, the dunk on the inbounds under the basket, Oats thinking it was a good plan to have Jones running the offense from the start and Cronin having his guys prepared on how to defend Jones backing down like that and take charges. Like I said, I love Oats, but that doesn't mean we can't critique the job he did.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:15 am to LovetheLord
I disagree, you don't have a stretch where you go 22-3 without mental toughness. Mental toughness is the reason they came back from being down 11.
We played like shite last night. Making generalizations about the entire season based on that seems wrong.
that was on Reese, but he couldn't move. What could we do?
We played like shite last night. Making generalizations about the entire season based on that seems wrong.
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from the scenario you described, the dunk on the inbounds under the basket,
that was on Reese, but he couldn't move. What could we do?
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:19 am to McGregor
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that was on Reese, but he couldn't move. What could we do?
Why couldn't he move? Because it was a specifically designed play they ran. Guys get screened under the basket all the time. Some teams run zone on the inbounds. Not saying we should have. But that was a play that Cronin set up, which again, was great coaching and preparation. Kudos to him. Every play matters in a game that goes to OT.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:20 am to BamaGradinTn
He got hurt. Did you miss him limping up and down the court? He was the only player with size that could guard their big man.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:22 am to McGregor
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He got hurt. Did you miss him limping up and down the court? He was the only player with size that could guard their big man.
Still doesn't account for Cronin having that play among his inbounds plays. I'm not saying it was bad coaching or play by us. I'm saying it was more evidence of a good job by Cronin.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:23 am to BamaGradinTn
Yea I see what you are saying. I'm just saying I don't think they fooled us as much as Reese couldn't move to block it. He saw it coming.
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