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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:50 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:50 am to Chadaristic
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Alabama is unmatched from DEEP RANGE
No team in the country has taken (912) and made more 3s (320) than Bama this season.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:55 am to DLev45
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Does anyone know what UConn has on the inside?
They have three guys that are 6'9" that are solid, but not dominant. They all average around 7-8 points a game and two of them shoot well from distance.
That's just from looking at their stats page, I haven't watched Uconn at all this season.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:57 am to DLev45
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Watford (SECCG)
P.S. - Oats had great patience on Sunday with Watford dominating the interior like he did.
The obvious move was to put Herb on him, but we also wanted to keep Herb out of foul trouble. So instead he kept charging Reese/Gary/Rojas at him until it got inside of 3 minutes and then Herb matched up with him with only 3 fouls.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:59 am to Crede15
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Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
Could Alabama’s 2020-21 team be remembered as transformative as Providence’s 1987 team? ?
@kenpomeroy
? thinks so. A look at dueling the brashness of Rick Pitino and Nate Oats in a game that links college basketball revolutions.
https://sports.yahoo.com/rick-pitino-changed-college-basketball-forever-could-nate-oats-follow-his-lead-034318059.html
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One coach is a 46-year-old former high school math teacher who less than a decade ago was selling Cheetos out of his classroom to fund the school’s basketball program. The other is a 68-year-old Hall of Famer who has coached seven teams to the Final Four. In many ways, when Iona’s Rick Pitino peers across the sidelines Saturday at Alabama’s Nate Oats, he’s seeing a younger version of himself — brash, innovative and unafraid to rankle the establishment.
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Beyond the outsized personalities, the game between the No. 2 Crimson Tide and No. 15 Gaels provides an intersection of basketball revolutions from different generations. Pitino’s 3-point revolution traces back nearly 35 years, while Oats’ shot chart that religiously abstains from the mid-range game is just starting to take hold in college basketball.
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Back in 1987, Pitino’s Providence team rode the sport’s cutting edge to the Final Four. Providence averaged nearly eight more 3-point shots per game (19.6) that season than any team in the Big East. The next closest major conference team in that 1986-87 season, Kentucky, averaged five fewer 3-pointers per game than Providence.
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In leading Alabama to the SEC regular season and conference title this season, Oats has become a darling of the analytics set with his devotion to avoiding mid-range shots. The Tide shoot 88% of their shots either at the rim — dunks or layups — or from the 3-point line. That leads the nation by more than 2%.
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Could the 2021 Alabama team end up changing basketball the same way that Providence did in 1987?
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“If they go to the Final Four or win the whole thing, it’s going to revolutionize the way a bunch of coaches think about it,” said Ken Pomeroy, the founder of the indispensable statistical site KenPom.com.
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Oats is hardly the bookish mold of a stereotypical math teacher. He’s emerged as a blunt-force personality this season as he consistently and refreshingly operates without a filter. He poked fun at Duke when they went on pause amid early struggles before later issuing an apology to Mike Krzyzewski. His expletive-spiked send-off to LSU coach Will Wade after winning the SEC title on Sunday went viral and captured the raw emotion that fuels Oats.
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Some may say he’s shown the bravado of a young Pitino, who picked plenty of fights in the old Big East on his way up the ladder. Pitino told Yahoo Sports he hadn’t heard of Oats until the controversy with Krzyzewski earlier this season. But the Tide have commanded the Hall of Fame coach’s respect. “He’s done a fabulous job,” Pitino said by phone on Tuesday afternoon. “It’s really taken advantage and exploited the weakness of defenses that can’t defend the ball and mismatches that can’t contain the ball.”
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Pomeroy, the statistical Yoda, went as far to predict that this Alabama team could end up more transformative than Providence in 1987.
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Alabama’s 88.3% avoidance of mid-range is the 10th-highest mark of the past decade in college basketball, according to statistics provided by Pomeroy. But none of those teams — like 2018 Belmont (89.7), 2017 Savannah State (89.6) and 2014 Princeton (89.3) — have a fraction of the national resonance of an Alabama team that could race to the Final Four.
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Are we on the cusp of another revolution in college basketball? Pomeroy estimates there are about 20 college coaches who’d prefer to play with the same statistical devotion as Oats. (Not all can because of personnel.) If Alabama rolls deep in the tournament, he predicts that number could escalate past 100, which is nearly a third of the sport.
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This strategy, of course, takes skilled and versatile players. And Pomeroy is quick to point out Alabama has plenty, led by SEC player of the year Herb Jones, a 6-foot-8 positional chameleon.
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“We walked into some pretty good personnel who play the way we want to play,” said Oats, who is in his second season in Tuscaloosa. “You have to have guys who can beat guys off the dribble, get the ball in the paint and you want to have shooters.”
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What excites Pomeroy as much as Alabama’s strict adherence to the statistical tenet of avoiding mid-range shots is how Alabama’s defense has dominated while playing an uptempo style. A decade ago, around the time Butler reached its second Final Four under Brad Stevens, Pomeroy emerged as a household name in college basketball.
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He popularized statistics based on points per possession, which eliminated the variable of tempo and gave a better accounting of a team’s efficiency. Alabama’s defense ranks No. 172 in college basketball by giving up nearly 70 points per game, but they are No. 2 in Pomeroy’s statistics adjusted for their frenetic tempo. Essentially, it proves a team can play at breakneck speed and still be elite defensively, which Pomeroy called “exhilarating.”
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“They’re a very uptempo team that’s very good defensively,” he said. “That confuses a lot of people. On a per-possession basis, they’re very good. It’s just hard to process. The backbone of my statistical work is identifying those teams.”
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This season marks Oats’ best chance at a deep run. “We can definitely win the whole thing,” Oats said. “Don’t take that as me predicting that we’re going to. We have to put both sides of the ball together for six games, which is not always easy to do. But we definitely can.”
That kind of run may indelibly alter the way the game is fundamentally played. As one revolutionary tactician coaches out his twilight, another is on the cusp of pushing both his career and perhaps the sport into a new stratosphere.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:59 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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The NCAA isn't going to do much of anything to LSU or Auburn because if they do then they have to hit protected Kansas and Arizona as well. Just dragging it out is the main punishment to be handed out.
Didn't Arizona just get hit with a bunch of Level 1's and a LOIC for Sean Miller?
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:02 am to Chadaristic
I was actually in pain and nearly tears during the Tennessee game when Reese was still in and throwing bricks late. But, man I love that dude. He's a Bamer.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:02 am to DLev45
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The obvious move was to put Herb on him, but we also wanted to keep Herb out of foul trouble. So instead he kept charging Reese/Gary/Rojas at him until it got inside of 3 minutes and then Herb matched up with him with only 3 fouls.
Yeah, it was a great strategic move.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:12 am to Contra
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Alabama’s 88.3% avoidance of mid-range is the 10th-highest mark of the past decade in college basketball, according to statistics provided by Pomeroy.
I know I do it every time and i've seen others in here like Robot and George mention at least once or twice. But I love how Oats has conditioned me to flinch every single time I see anyone on our team take any sort of mid range shot and when someone on a team we are playing takes one i'm nodding my head and saying "yeah, you can have those all day - good job defense, grab the board, go, go, go, go".
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:16 am to Chadaristic
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Dan Gavitt says that no replacement teams will be participating in the NCAA Tourney.
Now we just gotta cross our fingers nothing happens with any of the 68 teams.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
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It's wild isn't it?
It's awesome. Heck of a hire by Byrne. Oats checks every box this program needed.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:19 am to Chadaristic
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Now we just gotta cross our fingers nothing happens with any of the 68 teams.
except Texas, UCONN and FSU.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 10:19 am
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:19 am to Chadaristic
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Dan Gavitt tells reporters that there have been over 6900 COVID-19 tests since arrivals began in Indianapolis for the NCAA Tournament. Only seven were positive.
Things are going well so far in the bubble.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:21 am to Chadaristic
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Most indispensable players to their teams in tourney at EvanMiya.com:
I guess it's a good thing we don't have anyone mentioned here.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:22 am to Chadaristic
Only 2 players in the EAST on that list (unless I missed someone).
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:25 am to McGregor
SI’s write up ( built around Pitino’s press conference yesterday)
Iona's Rick Pitino: 1986-87 and 2020-21 Alabama Teams Best in Crimson Tide History
The legendary coach reflected on his time with Providence, when the Friars took down Alabama in the Sweet 16 in 1987, and previewed the upcoming matchup with the Crimson Tide on Saturday
Iona's Rick Pitino: 1986-87 and 2020-21 Alabama Teams Best in Crimson Tide History
The legendary coach reflected on his time with Providence, when the Friars took down Alabama in the Sweet 16 in 1987, and previewed the upcoming matchup with the Crimson Tide on Saturday
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:26 am to McGregor
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Dan Gavitt says Victory Field, the minor league ballpark adjacent to the hotels where teams are staying, has badminton nets set up (amongst other things) to allow players to get fresh air and stretch.
The Q obviously becomes: Which NCAAT team has the No. 1 badminton duo?
JQ and Gary seem like they would make a good duo. I'd rather our guys just watch others play though.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:33 am to Chadaristic
JQ could play his way into the early second round of the draft shoot maybe even late first so that's probably why we have reached out in order to kind a have a back up plan.
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