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Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:39 am to
Posted by SECFan413
Cookeville,TN
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:39 am to
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I hate to say it but If another school were doing this I have a feeling the sentiment would be different. I don’t know enough about the NCAA rules but based on what I’ve read here, Unless Oates knows something about a transfer out that we don’t know, this is a shitty thing to do.


Purely for discussion sake...

Why do you think it’s shitty?

Playing devil’s advocate...these players want to leave at will, get paid, and treated like employees. Isn’t this how companies are run? When the boss’s arse is on the line, won’t he generally do what’s best for himself/the company?

I personally don’t think college athletes should be treated like employees, and I don’t think Oats is the kind of guy to force someone out. I do think he is brutally honest with players and won’t sugarcoat things if they’re not likely to contribute- a la Davis and Forbes, and give them the opportunity to seek a place where they can.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44346 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:23 am to
Davis and Forbes were recruited by the previous staff. There's simply no good faith argument that cutting Wilson loose after he has signed his LOI is anything but incredibly shitty, and if Gurley commits and then KAH or Miles hit the portal that'd be twice in two years that a freshman this staff recruited is pushed out the door. Everyone understands that recruiting can be a really nasty business, but that's still not a great look and it'll be used against us with future recruits.
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
2987 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:35 am to
This is a bad look, that’s a bad look, this makes us look bad, blah blah blah. This isn’t a pre-k classroom, this is the real world. Oats has 13 scholarships to use, and he should give the best 13 basketball players he can those scholarships, regardless of whose feelings get hurt, regardless of whose scholarship gets pulled. Dear God some people are so soft. It’s the same situation in the workplace.

In 2017, if Avery gave the 13th scholarship to Galin Smith, but then Collin Sexton wanted to come here, you drop Galin. It’s the business. No one in the world wouldn’t do the exact same thing, f*ck what people think about it. They don’t like Bama anyway.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44346 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:41 am to
Go frick yourself.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15844 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:42 am to
You are the dumbest poster on this board.



Eta: you and pvilleguru
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
2987 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:46 am to
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You are the dumbest poster on this board.


Yeah, giving our 13 scholarships to the best 13 basketball players, how dumb!!!!
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44346 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:48 am to
Go frick yourself.
Posted by passthetylenol
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
162 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:49 am to
So with no basketball to feed on, we resort to cannibalism ??
In Nate I trust.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:16 am to
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Davis and Forbes were recruited by the previous staff. There's simply no good faith argument that cutting Wilson loose after he has signed his LOI is anything but incredibly shitty, and if Gurley commits and then KAH or Miles hit the portal that'd be twice in two years that a freshman this staff recruited is pushed out the door. Everyone understands that recruiting can be a really nasty business, but that's still not a great look and it'll be used against us with future recruits.


I'm with you on the LOI guys, because they weren't even given a chance to prove themselves. I'm a little more okay with Freshman being shown the door, especially if you don't see them having any playing time in the near future. In most cases a split is mutually beneficial. Hawkins was never going to see PT here and it would have been cruel to have him riding the bench another 3 years when he can go have himself an actual collegiate career. He was in a similar position to Rojas this off-season. Transfer or sit the pine for the rest of your career.

However, I don't believe Miles or KAH should be shown the door this early. Miles more so based on potential and talent, and KAH more based on messing up the Canada pipeline we have going right now.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 11:17 am
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Dear God some people are so soft. It’s the same situation in the workplace.



You are the last person to call anyone soft. You routinely want to fire everyone because the game isn't going perfectly at the given time. Just saying.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24467 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:57 pm to
I will hate it if any guy is forced out and didn’t want to actually leave, but I’m also of the mindset that I just want Alabama basketball to do whatever it takes to consistently win and be a top program. Last year from January on was awesome. Let’s make that a yearly occurrence
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40772 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:16 pm to
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I will hate it if any guy is forced out and didn’t want to actually leave, but I’m also of the mindset that I just want Alabama basketball to do whatever it takes to consistently win and be a top program. Last year from January on was awesome. Let’s make that a yearly occurrence


To be honest, we're in a pretty good predicament if this what we're worried about
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12953 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 5:27 pm to
Basketball thread looking like the football thread
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 5:53 pm to
I’ve got a different theory that may be total bullshite but maybe not. Where are we deepest? Guard. Where are we most experienced? Guard. We’ve only got 2 true natural ball handlers in Q and JD so I think they are staying unless Q goes pro. Primo has huge upside still and will probably break out this season. Primo stays. Of the returning starters, who does that leave as odd man out? Shack. Maybe he’s homesick, maybe he just sees his minutes shrinking, maybe he feels he’s been recruited over. But for whatever reason, maybe he’s the one leaving. To me, he’s a guy that probably has a reason to look around, whatever it might be. The other possibility is Q doing more than testing the NBA waters.

We didn’t give little Q a scholarship did we? Otherwise it’s too obvious who joins Rojas in the portal.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24467 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 6:29 pm to
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Furman transfer Noah Gurley (@ng_cuatro) has told me that he will be committing tomorrow at 6 PM EST. The choice will be between Duke, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Miami, Marquette, Tennessee, and San Diego State.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25482 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 6:42 pm to
frick we gotta wait all day
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44346 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 6:46 pm to
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. Of the returning starters, who does that leave as odd man out? Shack. Maybe he’s homesick, maybe he just sees his minutes shrinking, maybe he feels he’s been recruited over. But for whatever reason, maybe he’s the one leaving. To me, he’s a guy that probably has a reason to look around, whatever it might be.


You think our leading scorer who has started like 50 games the last two years is going to transfer? Seriously?
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17937 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:27 pm to
Shack led the team in scoring and shots taken and probably will next year too, on a team that should be in the top 10, not sure why he would transfer

Shacks dad loves Nate Oats too, he has referred to himself and Nate on twitter as brothers before.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3676 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 8:00 pm to
Shack isn’t leaving y’all gotta relax lmao
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