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Posted on 6/1/24 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7240 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 9:54 pm to
That's a seriously smart family you have. Anyone with an under 30 ACT still get to attend the family reunions? lol

Good info. Congrats to those kids for their hard work.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
887 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 10:38 pm to
I have to allow ACT of 28 and above to attend the family trips to Gulf Shores. I was the low man in my family with a 28 ACT.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 12:51 am to
I know I’m not from Alabama but I do k ow that a lot of major universities are pricing themselves out of students. If I can go to a small school and pay less than half the tuition for the same degree why would I not do that. Honestly unless you are getting a medical degree, engineering degree, law degree where the benefits outweigh the cost of tuition why go to a major in state college?
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17468 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:37 am to
Not a Bama alum and I let my two decide where to go. I did not send them anywhere. The oldest really liked his time at UAB and got a great job with his degree. The younger one followed in his footsteps and also had a great experience. It didnt hurt that we had relatives that lived in the Bham metro area where she could go and crash or have small gathers with her friends.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
965 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:40 am to
My daughter graduated from HS in Georgia ten years ago. She knew that she wanted to be an RN. Had good grades but not 4.0 or higher.

Got accepted at Alabama, Miami, Arizona State and University of West Georgia (There really is UWG, NOT Auburn). We could pay a lot of the out of state tuition but she would be stuck with at least some student loan debt.

She chose West Georgia in order to avoid any debt (she got the Hope Scholarship which paid most of her costs) and lived at home. She graduated debt free and is a nurse at a hospital in Columbia, SC.

If I had a kid that was in HS now, I would frankly go where you can get by with little or no debt. Or go to junior college for two years and then transfer to a four year school. The student load debt some of these kids are carrying is insane.

Many employers don’t give a crap where you went to school as long as you have the degree. The exception are those made up schools like Walden University.

Now, if you want to get your PhD and teach, then yes, it does matter where you got your degree.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21323 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 2:26 pm to
Send your kids to community college for the first 2 years to get their basics out of the way
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11629 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:41 pm to
This! Or do it with DE classes. My youngest just graduated high school with a 4.67 GPA and her AA from Gulf Coast State College. She’s walking into Bama as a rising junior and can probably get her degree in 2 years. This is an area where Bama shines IMHO. She has a full ride for tuition for 4 years. Most schools will honor that for the 2 years it takes to get her degree then shut it off. Bama will allow her to put those final two years of full tuition towards grad school. She didn’t want to go to Bama, tried very hard to find an alternative more to her liking. But she’s not stupid and she realizes what a great deal she’s getting in Tuscaloosa that nobody else has come close to. She’s warming up to UA rather quickly now, bought her football ticket package this morning. I think we can make a Bama girl out of her yet. And there sits my oldest daughter who is going to cry as we drag her kicking and screaming out of Tuscaloosa when she gets her JD.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
887 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:40 pm to
Well, my youngest daughter just got her "Official" acceptance letter today from The University of Alabama for next fall. I think the letter came (via email) 16 days after she submitted he offical application. No other schools have extended an acceptance letter yet.

Alabama did ask her to get her Honors College documentation back as soon as possibleto make sure her package was on/near the top of the pile. It should be interesting to see what the next 6 or 8 weeks holds for her.
Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
1386 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:58 pm to
Great to hear Tw1std! Congrats!
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:06 pm to
I am not from Alabama. We live in Louisiana. I will tell you what an LsU professor told me. Even though we have Tops which is a state funded assistance for kids choosing to stay in state for school. To go to LSU is still very expensive. Undergraduate students typically have GAs teaching class of 150 plus kids whereas for less than a 1/4 of the cost of tuition at a community college they can get all of their prerequisite classes out of the way. State college tuition is ridiculous.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12995 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

If I had a kid that was in HS now, I would frankly go where you can get by with little or no debt. Or go to junior college for two years and then transfer to a four year school. The student load debt some of these kids are carrying is insane. Many employers don’t give a crap where you went to school as long as you have the degree. The exception are those made up schools like Walden University.


I think this is a very good take for people that know what they want to do in high demand/volume fields like nursing and education.

But for people that want to go into a field like finance or consulting, you are at a major disadvantage going to a regional school vs a nationally known school.

I personally have put in a lot of legwork at my firm to get us to hire from more schools, but the older partners still assume a “better school” yields better employees.

I think that’s a tired take because the cost of college for people of my generation has pushed more good students to choose less highly regarded schools than they probably would have picked 20 years ago, but the mentality is still pervasive in my industry.

I also have anecdotal evidence it’s a poor strategy from the litany of awful Vanderbilt/Ivy League interns we’ve had over the past 3 years.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22235 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

My daughter was deciding between Alabama and UNA. She decided on UNA


My daughter is at UNA because they gave her the best scholarship.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58573 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Well, I guess I shoud post an update.


Similar experience here. The tour at UA changed my kid's view and now she's seriously considering going there, Fall of 2025. Already awarded her a full tuition scholarship. She's really sort of indifferent and doesn't really have "top choices," so whatever school out of UAB, UA, MS State, and Auburn gives her the most money will probably be the "winner."
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1694 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:07 am to
I am an Alabama alum. I don't know if I like the trend for 67% of the student body being from out of state. And out of region. Auburn is winning the battle for in state students. The university at 30% OOS would be a more reasonable number. We don't need tons of kids from Chicago and Philadelphia.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 7:08 am
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
965 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:17 am to
I'm convinced that the entire reason UA loves those OOS kids is for the added revenue. While that's nice, I think that strategy may be to UA's detriment long term in terms of funding from the state legislature. Why? If most of the state legislators are NOT Bama alums but are AU alums, I could see how they would short UA in terms of state funding.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1694 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:32 am to
Good point. Most of the kids from Chicago, Philly etc come to Bama to party etc. Do any of them contribute to the universities endowment fund. The university is addicted to the OOS money and will neglect in state students to get them. LIke I said, 30 percent OOS would be a more reasonable number.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
965 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:34 am to
I hate to generalize but a couple of years ago, we were able to hire some recent grads from Princeton, University of Virginia and Penn. I had this assumption that these kids would be "the best and the brightest". Instead, I felt they were entitled and arrogant. The funny thing is, they had terrible problem solving skills and not a lot of common sense. Needless to say, they didn't work out and eventually left.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19222 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:46 am to
It's unsustainable long term.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19222 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:49 am to
Alot of kids go to college too soon. Around the world, folks don't start until their 20s. World travel and entrepreneurship seems more valuable to learn in interim for some folks.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88706 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:08 am to
I moved to AL a few years ago once we started having kids but we're still a LONG ways off from them going to college. One question I have after reading this thread is how the hell do all these HS grads have 4.2+ GPAs? Like I assume they have straight As in every class but where does the extra come from?

And are we thinking that ~15 years from now, anyone with less than a 4.0 will basically be relegated to community college or trade school? It just blows my mind that when I was applying for college (20 years ago...yeesh) if you had in the mid-3s GPA that was pretty solid and would get you in the door at damn near anywhere that wasn't an upper upper tier university. Crazy how things change.
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