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Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:20 pm to MoarKilometers
Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:20 pm to MoarKilometers
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It's the one i actually applaud the most. Like i spent all that time and effort getting good at a sport to be confused with some chucker playing an intramural/club sport
Our hockey team has actually been pretty good.
I'll bet you couldn't skate from blue line to blue line without falling on your arse.
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:37 am to Cobrasize
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I really think Bohannon is a great hire. We actually had a guy here wanting to hire him when Battle crapped the bed.
Poster Tom Haverford. Seems connected to the baseball program in some manner. Really knows his stuff. Doesn’t post often though.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:49 am to CapstoneGrad06
That's him. I wish he would post more. He knows his stuff.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:39 pm to phil4bama
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-Allowed Nike to extend their contract with UA sports without renegotiation, a move that cost the university well over a hundred million dollars through 2025. Nike’s annual deal with UCLA nets the school $18.7 million annually. Ohio State and Texas get over $16 million a year. Alabama gets $5.25 million a year which doesn’t even rank in the top 20 Nike deals with universities. Battle signed the extension in 2013. The contract wasn’t up until June 30, 2018. Now it is there until 2025.
I still don't know how this happened. Simply mindblowing that Battle probably cost us $100 million. That's a brand new basketball arena.
Battle was hired to be a placeholder and he almost permanently set our programs back. All of this talk that he was a "businessman" is garbage considering the business was basically setup and handed to him by Coach Bryant.
Thank everything holy that he wasn't tasked with hiring Saban's replacement.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:15 pm to FairhopeTider
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I still don't know how this happened. Simply mindblowing that Battle probably cost us $100 million. That's a brand new basketball arena.
Is that really accurate? How the hell does that happen?
Byrne should call and demand a re-trade. frick that contract.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:27 pm to 14&Counting
It's the same level of incompetence that got us Perkins-Curry-Dubose-Fran-Shula-Price. It is exactly the same around there--we hit a lucky homer with Saban but I don't believe anyone around there learned a damn thing between Bryant and Saban. The process to hire Saban's successor scares the shite out of me.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:31 pm to East Coast Band
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quote: -Told club and intramural teams representing Alabama that they couldn’t use the script A and other licensed logos on their uniforms without a licensing agreement with the university
The most asinine item on the list.
It’s really not that dumb it’s Alabama protecting their brand, image and property rights. Battle was a licensing power for years he was keeping Bama in control of its property is all.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:50 pm to geauxtigs99
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It’s really not that dumb it’s Alabama protecting their brand, image and property rights.
Yeah he is great at suing over cupcakes and cookies and intra-mural wear but it seems to be beyond his grasp that Bama, the most successful and high profile team of the last decade, should get a deal commiserate with UCLA or Ohio State.
Not slightly worse, like a third of what those schools get......
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:52 pm to geauxtigs99
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quote: -Told club and intramural teams representing Alabama that they couldn’t use the script A and other licensed logos on their uniforms without a licensing agreement with the university
The most asinine item on the list.
It’s really not that dumb it’s Alabama protecting their brand, image and property rights. Battle was a licensing power for years he was keeping Bama in control of its property is all.
And, pray tell, when we're talking about a club or intramural team, how would Alabama be giving up control of its property, given that those organizations are also governed by the University?
And actually, we may stand corrected on part of this: Alabama's club hockey team clearly is allowed to use the script A and logo.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:16 pm to BamaGradinTn
I'd like to have one of those goalie helmets. 
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:05 pm to BamaGradinTn
It’s not that he wasn’t going to let a club team or intramural team use them it’s controlling the property. College kids can be dumb - even messing with something as simple as a big al logo smoking a bong as a club T-shirt or fundraising item can have consequences when it may effect future licensees or even the battle that the Oakland A’s have waged in the past over big al. The athletic department has protected the university for years over licensing, well before Battle was ad. Licensing is a multimillion a year business with a ton of grey areas and Bill was a pioneer in that aspect of sports biz.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 7:09 pm to geauxtigs99
No, it was STUPID because it was college kids making T-shirts for their extreme frisbee team and such. Paying out of their own pockets to make uniforms for their club and intramural teams. There was no threat to any licensing. That's just silly. It was Battle being the idiot that he is.
Meanwhile, he bent over for Nike and didn't even try to negotiate. He said in an interview that he didn't want a long drawn out process and they (the athletic dept) wanted to know a figure with which to structure future budgets. Nike lowballed Battle and he took it, hook, line, and sinker. The deal doesn't even land us in Nike's top 20. We should be top 5 at worst. So yes, every word of it is true. You can safely say that Battle cost the school over $100 million, brilliant businessman that he is. He is and was totally incompetent.
Meanwhile, he bent over for Nike and didn't even try to negotiate. He said in an interview that he didn't want a long drawn out process and they (the athletic dept) wanted to know a figure with which to structure future budgets. Nike lowballed Battle and he took it, hook, line, and sinker. The deal doesn't even land us in Nike's top 20. We should be top 5 at worst. So yes, every word of it is true. You can safely say that Battle cost the school over $100 million, brilliant businessman that he is. He is and was totally incompetent.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:46 pm to phil4bama
All of that....and Battle didn’t even get a bid from another apparel company. Not even a napkin offer that he could take back to Nike.
The guy should be publicly shamed on the Walk of Champions before a game.
The guy should be publicly shamed on the Walk of Champions before a game.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:57 pm to FairhopeTider
Given the level of passion about this, why don't we start a petition drive to advocate for a contract renegotiation between UA and Nike?
It is possible that there is discussion between the two, but it would be to Nike's advantage to keep it on the DL, and to have a new agreement closer to 2025. Still, I agree that this seems like a monumental screw up.
Go to LINK / to see how to start a petition.
It is possible that there is discussion between the two, but it would be to Nike's advantage to keep it on the DL, and to have a new agreement closer to 2025. Still, I agree that this seems like a monumental screw up.
Go to LINK / to see how to start a petition.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:12 am to phil4bama
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No, it was STUPID because it was college kids making T-shirts for their extreme frisbee team and such. Paying out of their own pockets to make uniforms for their club and intramural teams. There was no threat to any licensing. That's just silly. It was Battle being the idiot that he is.
The passion is good but that’s not how licensing works. Precedent and usage, from Girl Scouts to Club teams, is huge you may not like it but that’s how our legal system re: property rights works.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:44 am to JackieTreehorn
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It's the same level of incompetence that got us Perkins-Curry-Dubose-Fran-Shula-Price. It is exactly the same around there--we hit a lucky homer with Saban but I don't believe anyone around there learned a damn thing between Bryant and Saban. The process to hire Saban's successor scares the shite out of me.
"We caint harr dabo because hee'nt a Saban baw!"
Posted on 1/30/19 at 8:59 pm to stomp
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"We caint harr dabo because hee'nt a Saban baw!"
Nailed it! Pin this as a sticky because it will be all too prescient when the time comes.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:37 am to stomp
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It's the same level of incompetence that got us Perkins-Curry-Dubose-Fran-Shula-Price. It is exactly the same around there--we hit a lucky homer with Saban but I don't believe anyone around there learned a damn thing between Bryant and Saban. The process to hire Saban's successor scares the shite out of me.
"We caint harr dabo because hee'nt a Saban baw!"
Don't think we'll have to worry about that. Multiple members of Bryant's coaching tree beat him. Let's see if anyone from Saban's tree ever beats him. Jimbo probably has the best chance, but I don't see it happening.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:15 am to phil4bama
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Nailed it! Pin this as a sticky because it will be all too prescient when the time comes.
We already see it now when people suggest Jeremy Pruitt’s name to replace Saban.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:38 am to phil4bama
Is he still our AD? Nope! Why don't we drop the little cry-baby-a-thon and get into the present.
There are a large number of people in this forum who need to take a break from Alabama sports and go reconsider what's truly important in life. Hint: if you spend your time boiling mad over a former athletic director and your notion that he's ruined everything that is important to you, you need a major readjustment in values.
If you think/have thought that maybe Saban needs to ride into the sunset because he went 14-1 but didn't when number 18, you need professional help. If you believe that you could have coached better than the guy who has 6 national championships and who is considered by many to be the best coach ever, you belong in a rubber-room.
There are a large number of people in this forum who need to take a break from Alabama sports and go reconsider what's truly important in life. Hint: if you spend your time boiling mad over a former athletic director and your notion that he's ruined everything that is important to you, you need a major readjustment in values.
If you think/have thought that maybe Saban needs to ride into the sunset because he went 14-1 but didn't when number 18, you need professional help. If you believe that you could have coached better than the guy who has 6 national championships and who is considered by many to be the best coach ever, you belong in a rubber-room.
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