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re: 2020 FB Recruiting & Roster
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:36 am to MagillaGuerilla
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:36 am to MagillaGuerilla
Jack West seeing actual meaningful playing time for Stanford tonight. Mills is injured and West may be starting moving forward.
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:43 am to MagillaGuerilla
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Just another player in the case against going after non resignee JuCo linemen. They've rarely worked out or played to expectations; Cody, Carpenter, and Williams being exceptions.
I thought Menzie played well for us. Also Coker, Reed and Dial did as well.
I went back to look up the numbers. Saban has added 24 JUCOS to the rosters while at UA. With 13 of the 24 starting while at UA and 7 of those being drafted into the NFL. Dickerson may get drafted late round as well. So I would say the chance for a JUCO to do well is not much different from a kid coming out of HS. The only difference is you have the opportunity to develop the kid out of HS and the JUCO you have to hope they have it coming in.
T Cody, J Carpenter, J Williams, D Menzie, J Reed, Q Dial, and Buggs were all drafted. Also starting were J Coker, S Smith, D Belue, L Brown, D Jackson, and L Dickerson.
Non factors M Ricks, B Lewis, A Douglas, D Carter, T Dixon, DJ Pettway, Ty Flournoy-Smith, J Taylor, C Baldwin, J King, E Baker.
I may have missed someone.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 8:44 am
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:50 am to TideWarrior
Dickerson is a transfer not a JuCo.
Great post however.
Great post however.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:07 am to Carlton
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Dickerson is a transfer not a JuCo.
Great post however.
Your correct and Coker was as well. In a way I guess you could say they are similar since we get what we get when they arrive and hope they were developed prior to coming here.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:23 am to TideWarrior
And both from FSU.. we might just need to be their transfer portal buddies
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:24 am to TideWarrior
DJ Pettway wasn’t a non factor. He got alot of playing time and was a significant contributor.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:17 am to TideWarrior
I'll admit forgetting about Reed and Buggs most recently, but my post specifically referred to "linemen" that weren't resignees from previous classes
Guys like Leon Brown and Dom Jackson(who had mega hype out of JuCo) were always the weak link on the line. Depending on what the expectations as a JuCo linemen had been, neither player came in ready to play and start their 1st year.
Maybe I should have specified further to just OL with Buggs buoying the numbers overall of the linemen, but recently JuCo has been used as last second spot fillers like King and Tevita Musika.
Save Carpenter, JuCo OL recruiting hasn't been worth investing in...
Guys like Leon Brown and Dom Jackson(who had mega hype out of JuCo) were always the weak link on the line. Depending on what the expectations as a JuCo linemen had been, neither player came in ready to play and start their 1st year.
Maybe I should have specified further to just OL with Buggs buoying the numbers overall of the linemen, but recently JuCo has been used as last second spot fillers like King and Tevita Musika.
Save Carpenter, JuCo OL recruiting hasn't been worth investing in...
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:31 pm to TideWarrior
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Non factors
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DJ Pettway
Wrong
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:45 pm to TidalSurge1
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This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:57 pm to TideWarrior
A lot of great names. Had forgotten several. Was trying to think of Menzie's name yesterday. Too lazy to look it up.
Pettway was a significant contributor.
Pettway was a significant contributor.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:23 pm to Sebastian
Yes Pettway did contribute which will bolster the numbers but i did not think he ever stared. I was focusing on the players that were starters. I may be wrong though about him starting
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:25 pm to TideWarrior
Pretty sure he started alot too. He was very solid and was quite the redemption story. To come back after getting in trouble was awesome.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:39 pm to TideWarrior
Elliot Baker was a non factor as well on juco OL
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:06 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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I'll admit forgetting about Reed and Buggs most recently, but my post specifically referred to "linemen" that weren't resignees from previous classes
Guys like Leon Brown and Dom Jackson(who had mega hype out of JuCo) were always the weak link on the line. Depending on what the expectations as a JuCo linemen had been, neither player came in ready to play and start their 1st year.
Maybe I should have specified further to just OL with Buggs buoying the numbers overall of the linemen, but recently JuCo has been used as last second spot fillers like King and Tevita Musika.
Save Carpenter, JuCo OL recruiting hasn't been worth investing in...
I was not calling you out. I was trying to remember a few names like Menzie and started seeing others who I had forgotten and just listed them all.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:24 am to TideWarrior
2020 MOCK CLASS (sort of a best case finish)
2020 Top Targets (28) Commits (22) | Offers
(Commits: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)
Quarterbacks (1)
4* QB LINK ]Bryce Young 5-11/183 CA hudl *
Running Backs (2)
4* RB LINK ]Roydell Williams 5-10/202 AL hudl *
3* RB LINK ]Kyle Edwards 6-0/210 LA hudl ^
Wide Receivers (5)
4* WR LINK ]Thaiu Jones-Bell 5-11/187 FL hudl ^
4* WR LINK ]Traeshon Holden 6-3/195 CA hudl *
4* WR LINK ]Javon Baker 6-1/190 GA hudl ^
4* WR Arian Smith 6-1/170 FL hudl ^
5* WR Rakim Jarrett 6-0/208 DC hudl LSU
Tight Ends (2)
5* TE Arik Gilbert 6-5.5/253 GA hudl *
4* ATH Reggie Grimes 6-4.5/240 TN hudl ^
Offensive Line (2)
3* OC LINK ]Seth McLaughlin 6-4/270 GA hudl *
4* OT Marcus Dumervil 6-5/305 FL hudl
Defensive Line (3-4)
4* DL LINK ]Timothy Smith 6-4/340 FL hudl ^
4* DL/OL LINK ]Jah-Marien Latham 6-3/280 AL hudl *
4* DL Jaquelin Roy 6-3.5/289 LA hudl ^ LSU
Or 5* DE Jordan Burch 6-5/250 SC hudl ^
4* DT Jacobian Guillory 6-2/331 LA hudl *
Or 4* DT McKinnley Jackson 6-2/327 MS hudl
Linebackers (7)
4* ILB LINK ]Demouy Kennedy 6-2/204 AL hudl *
4* ILB LINK ]Jackson Bratton 6-3/225 AL hudl *
5* LB LINK ]Chris Braswell 6-3/220 MD hudl *
4* LB Phillip Webb 6-3.5/224 GA hudl ^
4* LB LINK ]Will Anderson 6-3/233 GA hudl *
5* OLB LINK ]Drew Sanders 6-5/222 TX hudl *
4* OLB LINK ]Quan' Robinson 6-5/217 AL hudl ^
Defensive Backs (5)
4* S/CB/WR LINK ]Brian Branch 6-0/182 GA hudl ^
4* S/CB LINK ]Malachi Moore 6-0/180 AL hudl *
4* DB/QB LINK ]Kristian Story 6-1/210 AL hudl ^
4* CB/S Nadab Joseph 6-2/193 Juco hudl
5* CB Elias Ricks 6-2/192 IMG/CA hudl * LSU
Specialists (0)
2020 Top Targets (28) Commits (22) | Offers
(Commits: bold | Early signees ^ / enrollees *)
Quarterbacks (1)
4* QB LINK ]Bryce Young 5-11/183 CA hudl *
Running Backs (2)
4* RB LINK ]Roydell Williams 5-10/202 AL hudl *
3* RB LINK ]Kyle Edwards 6-0/210 LA hudl ^
Wide Receivers (5)
4* WR LINK ]Thaiu Jones-Bell 5-11/187 FL hudl ^
4* WR LINK ]Traeshon Holden 6-3/195 CA hudl *
4* WR LINK ]Javon Baker 6-1/190 GA hudl ^
4* WR Arian Smith 6-1/170 FL hudl ^
5* WR Rakim Jarrett 6-0/208 DC hudl LSU
Tight Ends (2)
5* TE Arik Gilbert 6-5.5/253 GA hudl *
4* ATH Reggie Grimes 6-4.5/240 TN hudl ^
Offensive Line (2)
3* OC LINK ]Seth McLaughlin 6-4/270 GA hudl *
4* OT Marcus Dumervil 6-5/305 FL hudl
Defensive Line (3-4)
4* DL LINK ]Timothy Smith 6-4/340 FL hudl ^
4* DL/OL LINK ]Jah-Marien Latham 6-3/280 AL hudl *
4* DL Jaquelin Roy 6-3.5/289 LA hudl ^ LSU
Or 5* DE Jordan Burch 6-5/250 SC hudl ^
4* DT Jacobian Guillory 6-2/331 LA hudl *
Or 4* DT McKinnley Jackson 6-2/327 MS hudl
Linebackers (7)
4* ILB LINK ]Demouy Kennedy 6-2/204 AL hudl *
4* ILB LINK ]Jackson Bratton 6-3/225 AL hudl *
5* LB LINK ]Chris Braswell 6-3/220 MD hudl *
4* LB Phillip Webb 6-3.5/224 GA hudl ^
4* LB LINK ]Will Anderson 6-3/233 GA hudl *
5* OLB LINK ]Drew Sanders 6-5/222 TX hudl *
4* OLB LINK ]Quan' Robinson 6-5/217 AL hudl ^
Defensive Backs (5)
4* S/CB/WR LINK ]Brian Branch 6-0/182 GA hudl ^
4* S/CB LINK ]Malachi Moore 6-0/180 AL hudl *
4* DB/QB LINK ]Kristian Story 6-1/210 AL hudl ^
4* CB/S Nadab Joseph 6-2/193 Juco hudl
5* CB Elias Ricks 6-2/192 IMG/CA hudl * LSU
Specialists (0)
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:43 am to TidalSurge1
Like the mock class! I’d like to swap one with Arian Smith for Henderson at Wr . But hey if Burch and Roy are in the D Line class I’m all in
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:57 am to bloodtide 39
With Henderson , that’s a 330.32 score and could be higher by end of the year!!!!
Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:58 am to bloodtide 39
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Like the mock class! I’d like to swap one with Arian Smith for Henderson at WR...
Arian Smith is ultra fast -- close to Ruggs. With 2 big targets, Holden and Gilbert, and losing Ruggs, Jeudy and maybe D Smith too, I think A Smith is a better choice than Henderson.
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With Henderson , that’s a 330.32 score and could be higher by end of the year!!!!
Williams, Edwards and Latham should get pretty big bumps. Young will probably be a 5-star and Kennedy, Webb and QRob have a shot at 5-stars.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:05 am to TidalSurge1
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:07 am to TidalSurge1
You really think we can get Roy, Burch, and Ricks?
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