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re: $1.8MM…Ryan Williams
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:21 am to NWLA_Bama
Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:21 am to NWLA_Bama
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but how hard is going to work now that he's there and making almost $2MM to boot.
That wasn't the topic. The topic was some guy who thinks he knows how hard someone else worked for their successes.
How he works after getting paid is up to the coaching staff and structure. The reality is he didn't just start playing poorly, he fell off last season and has for some time.
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 10:36 am to YStar
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How he works after getting paid is up to the coaching staff and structure
No, it's not up to the coaches how hard he works. That's a personal decision. If the coach has to coach a player to work hard at this level, then there's a problem with the player, not the coach. It's called effort. When a coach has to start coaching effort, especially on this level, there's a major problem.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:02 am to MoarKilometers
Yep. All true, and he was great. But he had to have a QB get him the ball there. WR don’t win superbowls.
Not a person in the world would let Steve young or Joe Montana pass in the draft to get even Jerry Rice
Not a person in the world would let Steve young or Joe Montana pass in the draft to get even Jerry Rice
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:09 am to NWLA_Bama
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No, it's not up to the coaches how hard he works. That's a personal decision.
This is true but the structure and influence is still the responsibility of the coach. Nick Saban had a structure and influence where certain expectations created certain results.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:34 am to scottydoesntknow
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He didnt work any harder than your average HS football player. He was born with extraordinary natural ability
He had to work hard to take advantage of that ability though. Theres plenty of players who never got to this level who had extraordinary abilities. I respect Ryan's work ethic and I believe his play will pick up later this year.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:39 am to NWLA_Bama
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The question isn't how hard he worked to get to that position, but how hard is going to work now that he's there and making almost $2MM to boot. That's the big question. If the first game was any indication, he better have a come to Jesus meeting with himself because he played scared the entire game.
I'm sure Ryan is smart enough to not rest on his laurels and settle for 2M. Theres people that are in his ear to tell him about the bigger picture which is going to the league and potentially making 10's of millions of dollars. Not every college player is dumb enough to just come in and settle for what they have. I'm not saying that you're saying that but you understand the point I'm making.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:10 am to YStar
It is my observation that the fade of RW after the UGA game was not a lack of effort but the impact of DC's learning his weaknesses and boxing him into those weaknesses. RW has a slight build and his lack of strength allowed the Cb's to press him against the sideline to keep him out of phase with the OC route tree designs. This is the driver to move him around and try to use him more fron the slot.
In the slot, his slight frame clashes with never having learned to slip big hits over the midle. Until he learns how to avoid or mitigate big hits from safeties and LB's his slot play would be limited. What Smitty did so well was two fold, he was a very good "shade blocker" and used his blocking ablility to set safeties up with a fake block them slip past them for deep post & corner routes and deep over routes. He also learned to shift his body so the big hits turned into glancing blows. Those are skills the coaches and film study have to teach him.
The advantage of moving him around and putting him in the slot keeps him from having to deal with realy good press-man skills at the LoS. But to make that work he needs more coaching, more film study, and a QB who can learn where his ideal target zones will be and have the ability to "throw him open" toward those target zones. The QB will also need protection from the OL, TE chips and RB pick-up to give him more time for hitting the longer developing optimal target zones.
RW reaching the next step in his development is not effort limited. It requires input from coaching and development of skills from other player to allow that capability to emerge more completely.
In the slot, his slight frame clashes with never having learned to slip big hits over the midle. Until he learns how to avoid or mitigate big hits from safeties and LB's his slot play would be limited. What Smitty did so well was two fold, he was a very good "shade blocker" and used his blocking ablility to set safeties up with a fake block them slip past them for deep post & corner routes and deep over routes. He also learned to shift his body so the big hits turned into glancing blows. Those are skills the coaches and film study have to teach him.
The advantage of moving him around and putting him in the slot keeps him from having to deal with realy good press-man skills at the LoS. But to make that work he needs more coaching, more film study, and a QB who can learn where his ideal target zones will be and have the ability to "throw him open" toward those target zones. The QB will also need protection from the OL, TE chips and RB pick-up to give him more time for hitting the longer developing optimal target zones.
RW reaching the next step in his development is not effort limited. It requires input from coaching and development of skills from other player to allow that capability to emerge more completely.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 12:29 pm to qman91
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I'm sure Ryan is smart enough to not rest on his laurels and settle for 2M. Theres people that are in his ear to tell him about the bigger picture which is going to the league and potentially making 10's of millions of dollars. Not every college player is dumb enough to just come in and settle for what they have. I'm not saying that you're saying that but you understand the point I'm making.
Most of the time, this isn't the case; it's actually the opposite. Friends and family come out of the woodwork with their hands held out. The uncle wants to be the agent, etc. I hope RW has good people around him; I personally do not know. But in most cases they have people pulling them from every direction wanting to get close to their money.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:39 pm to UASports23
I'm inching closer and closer to just being out.
I can't be the only one. What's happened to football is going to drive people away, right at the moment they can least afford it, since the costs of fielding a team are astronomical.
I'll tune in at 11 Saturday. But I just don't care as much anymore. I've been avidly following Bama now since 1989...maybe I'm just getting older and have different priorities.
Right now, the NFL is fairer and makes more sense.
I can't be the only one. What's happened to football is going to drive people away, right at the moment they can least afford it, since the costs of fielding a team are astronomical.
I'll tune in at 11 Saturday. But I just don't care as much anymore. I've been avidly following Bama now since 1989...maybe I'm just getting older and have different priorities.
Right now, the NFL is fairer and makes more sense.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 2:55 pm to Grievous Angel
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Right now, the NFL is fairer and makes more sense.
THIS is the biggest problem facing the college game right now. The collegiate labor market is not sensible nor tuned for balance competition. Not sure how you solve it because a draft and cap is the fix but drafting players into a college even breaks the mystique of college athletics harder than what we're doing now.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:23 pm to YStar
His route running says otherwise.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:43 am to Tw1st3d
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RW reaching the next step in his development is not effort limited. It requires input from coaching and development of skills from other player to allow that capability to emerge more completely.
He's had an entire offseason for this and I'm almost certain the coaches have been coaching him. More than one qualified person pointed out he was running lazy routes in the FSU game. He then started having alligator arms and pulling back on catch attempts in fear of getting hit.
The other receivers seem to be running routes just fine, so I'm hard pressed to blame coaching. I think RW just bought too much into his own hype, possibly didn't put in the work needed in the offseason to get better and is now reaping the consequences of that. It doesn't mean I'm writing him off. I'm just saying I think the key is him putting in more work and focusing on football more than he does podcasts and fashion statements.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:20 pm to NWLA_Bama
Could be that the UGA game was the worst thing that could have happened to him.
But I'm not counting him out quite yet. Last year he didn't come across as someone who lacked effort or hard work, even after the UGA game. He was routinely running downfield trying to block people, and he ran good, hard routes. And he took plenty of big hits and got right back up.
Hopefully when all is said and done we can just block the FSU game out of our memories and call it a fluke.
But I'm not counting him out quite yet. Last year he didn't come across as someone who lacked effort or hard work, even after the UGA game. He was routinely running downfield trying to block people, and he ran good, hard routes. And he took plenty of big hits and got right back up.
Hopefully when all is said and done we can just block the FSU game out of our memories and call it a fluke.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:33 pm to qman91
I'm sure Ryan is smart enough to not rest on his laurels and settle for 2M
With respect, I think you are mistaken.
With respect, I think you are mistaken.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 12:56 pm to UASports23
Mkay can we lay off the guy a tad?
Posted on 9/13/25 at 1:27 pm to Glorious
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Mkay can we lay off the guy a tad?
Scared over the middle doesn’t help his case
Posted on 9/15/25 at 12:31 pm to RTRnFlorida
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But he had to have a QB get him the ball there. WR don’t win superbowls.
Not a person in the world would let Steve young or Joe Montana pass in the draft to get even Jerry Rice
Julio almost willed Matty Ice to one... but as that 2nd half demonstrates, he can't throw it to himself. I'd take Julio over Matt Ryan , every time, since it's tangential
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