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Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:02 am
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:02 am
I got to thinking on the flight home last night that the number 5 position in the playoff is the best. Reasons below:
1. Home game against Liberty or the like
2. Next game is against the lower ranked top 4
3. While it’s nice to have a conference championship what if you lose a starter or worse you lose and it knocks you out.
What do y'all think?
1. Home game against Liberty or the like
2. Next game is against the lower ranked top 4
3. While it’s nice to have a conference championship what if you lose a starter or worse you lose and it knocks you out.
What do y'all think?
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 10:07 am
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:04 am to CrimsonBoz
I agree. People make a big deal about the top 4 seeds getting a bye week but not playing in a conference championship kind of offsets that aspect. There's a chance you're punished more for losing in the SECCG rather than finishing third, it'll be interesting to see how the committee approaches the seeding.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:11 am to CrimsonBoz
Could be. You are basically guaranteed the 1 overall in the semis if you are 5 though since the seeds don't reset. In most years 3-12 will be a crap shoot of quality so you might get more favorable match ups being in that group, catch a team that had an upset the week before you are better than. I would want the best as late as possible, give them a chance to be more dinged up having to play two games. You make good points.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:11 am to CrimsonBoz
One of the commentators last night said the most idiotic thing I've ever heard regarding the new format.
He said it makes every game more important than ever.
What kind of moronic shite is that?
He said it makes every game more important than ever.
What kind of moronic shite is that?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:14 am to TideSaint
They are trying their damnest to sale this mess of a product they have created as better and more exciting. It is almost unbearable to listen to the talking heads try to sale this snack oil. Meanwhile it is already been an incredible success for the power players as they have been able to up the commercials what feels like infinitely.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:18 am to Carlton
I saw this on their website
“With the four highest-ranked conference champions assigned to bowls, their four Playoff Quarterfinal opponents will be dictated by the bracket (i.e., No. 1 vs. No. 8/9 winner, No. 4 vs. No. 5/12 winner, No. 2 vs. 7/10 winner; No. 3 vs. 6/11 winner.)”
So number 5 if they win against 12 gets to play 4.
In my head I was thinking let’s say it’s this
UGA
OSU
Clemson/FSU/GT
Okie State or K State
If we are 5 that’s a much more favorable matchup.
“With the four highest-ranked conference champions assigned to bowls, their four Playoff Quarterfinal opponents will be dictated by the bracket (i.e., No. 1 vs. No. 8/9 winner, No. 4 vs. No. 5/12 winner, No. 2 vs. 7/10 winner; No. 3 vs. 6/11 winner.)”
So number 5 if they win against 12 gets to play 4.
In my head I was thinking let’s say it’s this
UGA
OSU
Clemson/FSU/GT
Okie State or K State
If we are 5 that’s a much more favorable matchup.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:22 am to CrimsonBoz
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I got to thinking on the flight home last night
Nice flex
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:30 am to CrimsonBoz
I agree, my question is, do you want UGA in the semis or the title or does it matter to you? I don't have any issue someone saying we got to play em, might as well play them in semis.
The other thing is what if you get Miami or Ohio State as the 4/5 match up. 5 is likely the best but my opinion is College Football somewhere at 3,4 or 5 - 12 becomes soup and you might end with a more favorable path not almost guaranteeing yourself the 1 seed in the semis.
The other thing is what if you get Miami or Ohio State as the 4/5 match up. 5 is likely the best but my opinion is College Football somewhere at 3,4 or 5 - 12 becomes soup and you might end with a more favorable path not almost guaranteeing yourself the 1 seed in the semis.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:35 am to TheNameIsDalton
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There's a chance you're punished more for losing in the SECCG rather than finishing third, it'll be interesting to see how the committee approaches the seeding.
I hope that's only true if the SECCG is blowout. what I don't like is the potential for several rematches. Yea, I know, BAMA 2012 and UGA 2022.
Also, margin of victory or loss will be a big factor.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:04 am to CrimsonBoz
The loser of the SECCG is going to have a really good shot at that #5 spot every year.
I would almost say guaranteed to get that spot, but there’s some pretty big suckfests going on over the B10, specifically OSU and Oregon this year.
I would almost say guaranteed to get that spot, but there’s some pretty big suckfests going on over the B10, specifically OSU and Oregon this year.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:18 am to crimson crazy
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quote:I got to thinking on the flight home last night Nice flex
Haha no flex intended just where the thought happened.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:19 am to Carlton
This is true. In the case of UGA maybe it’s better to play them in the Semis.
It will be definitely be interesting to see how it all shakes out. Matchups are so important. Like we matchup better with UGA than say Okie State, but it’s totally different styles of football.
It will be definitely be interesting to see how it all shakes out. Matchups are so important. Like we matchup better with UGA than say Okie State, but it’s totally different styles of football.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:35 am to CrimsonBoz
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What do y'all think?
I’ve made the same case you are making. I think it’d ultimately come down to who’s winning the 8/9 game.
Let’s say it’s Penn State winning as an 8 seed. I think you’d rather have the bye because Penn State isn’t a true contender (see James Franklin’s big game record).
If it’s Texas as an 8/9 though, I think you’d rather have best G5 then ACC/Big XII champion.
The best G5 would have been a tough matchup back in the BCS or early playoff eras, but the best non-AQ programs have found their way into the Big XII (Utah, TCU, UCF), and the portal has crushed G5 teams.
I think the calendar of these games will mitigate any advantage of a bye except for avoiding potential injuries. Even without a bye, you get 10 days off till the next game. That may be better than having to shake off a month’s rust.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:37 am to CrimsonBoz
NFL history suggests that the bye week is at best a nonfactor, and there's plenty of evidence to suggest it's actually a disadvantage. Until that Broncos vs Panthers Super Bowl about ten years ago, there had never been a season where the teams with the two best records (i.e. both having first round byes) met in the Super Bowl.
Would much rather have the tune up game against the 12 seed.
Would much rather have the tune up game against the 12 seed.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 11:40 am
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:46 am to CrimsonBoz
If we have two SEC in the top 4 End of regular season, it’s usually going to be a foregone conclusion that loser of the secc gets the 5 spot. Makes me think about opt outs for injured players participating in the Secc game if worst cast scenario is #5 or even 6.
Extra week off for dinged players may be better in the long run than winning the Secc and getting a Bye first round.
Extra week off for dinged players may be better in the long run than winning the Secc and getting a Bye first round.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 12:00 pm to CrimsonCrusade
I don't think this is true. Washington/Buffalo in 1992 was the top seeds from each conference. Two teams with byes met regularly in the Super Bowl during the 90s as the top 2 seeds in each conference got byes. Dallas Buffalo in 1995 were also 1 seeds overall in the Super Bowl. Maybe the two best records were in the same conference so that makes the logic work but teams which had byes I am pretty sure have regularly met in the Super Bowl prior to 10 years ago.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 12:23 pm to CrimsonBoz
5 or 6 looks about the same this year.
B1G and SEC will have the top 2 seeds.
I don’t really see a lot of difference in the ACC or big 12 as far as quality teams go.
B1G and SEC will have the top 2 seeds.
I don’t really see a lot of difference in the ACC or big 12 as far as quality teams go.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 12:23 pm to CrimsonBoz
Not sure Oregon belongs in the top 4 seeds if they do happen to win the B10. Of course, give us 5 against Liberty at 12, then #4 Oregon, and we are rolling.
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