re: Why should ND get in over us if we lose the SECCG?

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Solid... fail to make a valid point... indicate that it went over someone else's head. Gotta love this place.

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Wow,still don't get it...not unexpected

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are doing a great job of scheduling"

"are" - present tense

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Really?

"Scheduling" plural...means more than 1 schedule

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So what team is going out and scheduling OOC P5 programs at the same rate as ND?

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What P5 team has the flexability to schedule SEVEN OOC teams every year.God,this isn't hard.

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Their Navy matchup is akin to our Tech matchup... it's a rivalry game that they play every season... Similarly they also play USC and Stanford every year... so let's add that to the 5 ACC games to create an 8 game "conference schedule"... this leaves them with 4 games that they dictate completely

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Please,these games aren't like our in state game with GT and the only game that MIGHT be close is USC and I'm pretty sure they haven't played Stanford
every year and ND playing Navy isn't close to our in state obligation to GT.

Update on Stanford.As of last year they've played 31 times since 1927
So it's not the obligation of USC or Navy

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this leaves them with 4 games that they dictate completely.

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Once again you're making HUGE assumptions here,I'll kinda of give you the USC game but that still leaves you with 6

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So in each of that 5 year period, they have at least 2 P5 OOC, and twice they have 3.

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We had 2 this year plus the SECCG which ND doesn't have to worry about and cancels out any "credit"they get for OOC scheduling.

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I used ours as an example. Pick another P5 school... Who is routinely scheduling their *open* games against better competition?

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Typically we've done a better job of scheduling OOC than our SEC counterparts but still not enough and we need at least 2 OOC games per year as I've stated on multiple occasions.

Yea,our '18 OOC is garbage and we need to change our philosophy.

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not unexpected

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"Scheduling" plural...means more than 1 schedule

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plural yes... more than one schedule... not necessarily. You can be scheduling more than one game... ie. a season of football...

There's no real need to get semantic about it, it's why I made an entire comment rather than leaving it at that... but if you want to, you're quite simply wrong.

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Please,these games aren't like our in state game with GT and the only game that MIGHT be close is USC and I'm pretty sure they haven't played Stanford
every year and ND playing Navy isn't close to our in state obligation to GT.

Update on Stanford.As of last year they've played 31 times since 1927
So it's not the obligation of USC or Navy

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Good job picking a sample size that suits your story... except since 1988, they've only missed 2 seasons playing against each other (95/96)... longevity of the rivalry has nothing to do with the likelihood that it continues.

What is it about these games that make it "not like our in state game with GT"? I didn't imply that it has the same intensity as a rivalry... we're discussing the *scheduling aspect* and it's simply a game that is played every year (at least in the modern era). You think Georgia Tech is somehow substantially better than Navy on a consistent basis? Their S&P+ averages over the past 5 years or so are pretty close, and they both run schematically contrarian offenses... Navy is generally near the top of their G5 conference and Tech is usually near the middle-bottom of the ACC... I'd say the programs are similar enough for comparison purposes.

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Once again you're making HUGE assumptions here,I'll kinda of give you the USC game but that still leaves you with 6

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What about that assumption is "huge"... they play USC, Navy, and Stanford every year and have for roughly the past 20 years... Could they change these? Sure, but *that* would require an assumption that there is a desire to do so. We also could leave the SEC... that too would be an assumption. Let's operate under the "most likely" scenario here rather than leaping to wild conjecture.

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We had 2 this year plus the SECCG which ND doesn't have to worry about and cancels out any "credit"they get for OOC scheduling.

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So now we're getting credit for Ga Tech? We don't control that game, so it's not a "scheduled OOC" game in the sense that we're discussing. But that's fine... again, name school(s) that are routinely scheduling OOC slates that are as good as the ND "OOC" four game slate (ie. not part of the 8 games I am tentatively referring to as their "conference" slate given it's recurrence").

Michigan State ranked
USC ranked
NC State ranked
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Miami ranked
Stanford ranked




Notre Dame ranked
Mississippi State ranked
Auburn ranked
Alabama ranked
(If Bama and UGA beat Auburn, are they still ranked? If Bama beats Mississippi state, are they still ranked?)
What does this mean? We need to beat Bama at all costs. Win the conference.

Has anybody thought about the possibility of rematches with Notre Dame in the first round and Alabama in the second round? That would be a monumental task to ask of any team.

Not sure I agree with you.

The committee ignores other rankings. They said that.
The committee had their first ranking yesterday. So there is no "other ranking" prior to 10/31.

They even said that UGA has the best win over #3 Notre Dame as a reason for putting us over Bama.

Everything is fluid. Bama might jump us after beating LSU

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N.C. State plays Clemson Next a loss sends them out of the ranking

Michigan State plays Penn St and then Ohio St. and a loss sends them out of the rankings.

Stanford has to play Washington, Washington St and Notre Dame. and a loss to one of them sends Stanford out of the rankings.

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I don't disagree.

Okay even if you use the first playoff ranking we have wins agains't
#3 Notre Dame
#16 Mississippi State
#14 Auburn Assuming since the thread is if we lose in the SECCG.

Notre Dame will have wins over

#17 USC
#20 N.C. state and assuming they get to play these teams before they lose again

#10 Miami
#21 Stanford
#24 Michigan State

Our 3 best wins are better than their 3 best wins and our loss if to Bama will be better than their loss.

5 is greater than 3.

If we have lost 1... then we could have lost more if we played a tougher schedule.

This is the way of the committee. We need to get used to it. Because they want to encourage better scheduling. Not encourage ducking good competition in hopes of winning out (and losing 1 along the way).

I'm not trying to convince you.
I'm not trying to argue with you.

Just calling it like I see it.
I'm not making shite up.

You can take it or leave it.
It's just an opinion.

Not upset. Cheers.