re: What if we all die before the basketball team is good again?

Better than Mark Richt and Mark Fox era. Both football and basketball were mediocre to horrible.

I mean, UGA is 16-9 in what has become the toughest conference in Basketball. In February they will play/have played 7 games against 6 ranked teams. 3 games against top 4 teams. Show me when this has ever happened in the SEC.
Let’s look at January. 7 games against 6 ranked teams. 3 in the top 6.
I’m thinking we move to the Big East where we have played better this year.
Since that is off the table, maybe UGA’s issue is context. We have gotten better…. A good bit better in last few years. It’s just that the SEC is really good this year. Maybe we can find a better guy. I’m sure there is one out there. Maybe we can not scream like a spoiled child when shite doesn’t go our way. Maybe we can agree a slimy old dude was not a miss we can’t recover from.

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Since that is off the table, maybe UGA’s issue is context. We have gotten better…. A good bit better in last few years. It’s just that the SEC is really good this year.

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Georgia is improving, but the rest of the conference is improving even more and they're doing it faster. That's not a good thing. This just means the gap between the contenders and Georgia is getting wider, not smaller.

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Maybe we can agree a slimy old dude was not a miss we can’t recover from.

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That's not the point. The point was that I would hope they'd aim higher than Mike White. The only reason he took this job is because Florida was about to fire him.

I think they had the right idea with Crean but just picked the wrong guy. Crean didn't come with Dwyane Wade or Steve Novak. You have to be able to score to win in college basketball.

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Is the team getting better: yes
Is recruiting getting better:yes

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Compared to where they were, yes. Compared to the competition, no.

Sure, it's a tough league. That isn't changing anytime soon. You know who doesn't use that as an excuse? A&M when they're going on a 30-4 second half run. Mississippi State when they win in Athens despite shooting 6/18 from the free throw line. Alabama when they lose their best player and go on a Final Four run anyways.

Georgia is better now than they used to be, but at the same time, they're farther behind the competition than they used to be. It feels like they're farther behind the Kentucky, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, A&M, etc... tier than ever before.

I clarified that in a different post. We’re just going in circles at this point.

And this thread asked the question, will we die before the basketball team is good again?
I have stated that we in fact are getting better which has been agreed to as fact.

The OP also asked if we will ever make the tourney again and that it has been 20 years since we have been in it. This question implied that is the line for being good.
We are very close this year to being in. We might even get in with a few more key wins.

Since we are getting better, it would be logical to assume that if we continue to get better, our chances to make the tournament will increase.
The counter argument to this is that the SEC is also getting better. This is valid to an extent, but if UGA continues to get better as the SEC gets better, their chances to make the tournament should increase as they will fare even better out of conference and any SEC wins they have will be weighted heavily.

It is ok to be happy that we are getting better. It doesn’t mean you are settling for anything. Plus, if you have actually been a UGA basketball fan a while, this is better than normal for us. I’d love to see White elevate us. If he hits a ceiling, then I’ll appreciate what he did for us and welcome the next guy. As long as he isn’t a greasy old yankee. We have standards.

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Getting better compared to where we were, but getting worse compared to our direct competition. That's the tricky part. White is improving the program and falling farther behind his peers simultaneously.

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You can’t look at 4 of the 5 top teams in the AP poll being SEC as failing on White’s part.
You can look at all the top SEC coaches and their rise with their current teams were not consistently positive. You can also see a lot of them were fired for not winning at other programs. Did these coaches get better since they were fired from their last gig? Do they possess “get better” abilities White does not? This is all a very strange argument you seem to be taking.

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Seems like White may have one more year but I don't think anyone is confident he will do much better. Unless Brooks has someone in mind already I think he probably does have one more year. Since 1980 has any SEC team gone 10 years like we have without making the NCAA tournament?

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If he does get fired he will have us in a better spot than we have been in a long time. We have a shot at 19 wins going into the SEC. 1 or 2 wins there and I’d say we are a lock.

So, what you are saying is several of the Coaches you covet were fired at other schools and non of them had consistent success in their first 3 years at their current school?