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re: We’re a blue state now?

Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:16 am to
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:16 am to
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We don't have allies. Our allies are like the frat bro who sleeps on the couch, eats all of the food, and doesn't pay for anything.


That view shows how little you understand. The fact that we pay the most in NATO is a feature and not a defect of that organization. It allows us to dictate policy, and not some pussy country like France. And it also allows us to guarantee the other NATO show up to fight when Uncle Sam comes calling.

And in the case of the Kurds, we didn't pay them a dime. They did all of the fighting - and all of the dying - on their own in the counter-ISIS campaign while we sat in the rear to advise and assist.

We need allies, and more importantly, friends. China is coming, and we cannot stand alone against them.

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Hope they're excited for Harris to get the war machine fired up again


You voted for George W. Bush. Shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 10:25 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:21 am to
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Since resources and space are finite at some point having too many workers will make the process less efficient. Also, you can’t just plug and play workers across the process. You would need to add a group of workers that can complete the entire cycle. Having more people to open the mail would just create a bigger backlog if there’s the same amount of people counting it


Dont be an idiot.

People arent opening the mail in fulton and DeKalb counties.
Machines do it.

The fact still stands that there are breaks in the chain that slow things down.

Come on. Please be reasonable. This is 2020.
Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Member since Feb 2014
2341 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:24 am to
Next we will be voting on smart phones
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:25 am to
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but why would any military person support the guy that helped approve the needless wars


For one, he doesn't abandon our allies. Several of my Army buddies who are still serving were going to vote for Trump up until the point he abandoned the Kurds to be butchered by the Turks. They said it made them literally sick to their stomachs. The Kurds are the only secular, pro-America group of Muslims in the world. And it's not like Trump pulled us out of Syria. We are still there. And in greater numbers. Just in a different area. We simply relocated out of the north so Turkey could move in and occupy the Kurdish areas and exterminate them. An estimated 10,000 Kurds have been rounded up and killed by Turkish death squads a la einsatzgruppen.



Good post

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brokering peace throughout the middle east?


I will give credit where credit is due. Normalizing relations between Israel and UAE, Bahrain and Sudan is important. But to call it peace is not really accurate considering those countries were never at war with Israel. A much bigger deal would be formal recognition by Saudi Arabia. The big kahuna would be getting Syria to formally cede the Golan to Israel. THAT would be peace.


You are downplaying how far the needle has moved to peace. We can disagree on semantics. It would be a shame if those gains are lost by biden/harris.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:26 am to
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You are downplaying how far the needle has moved to peace. We can disagree on semantics. It would be a shame if those gains are lost by biden/harris.


Agreed. I just question how much the needle has moved.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:29 am to
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We don't have allies. Our allies are like the frat bro who sleeps on the couch, eats all of the food, and doesn't pay for anything.


That view shows how little you understand. The fact that we pay the most in NATO is a feature and not a defect of that organization. It allows us to dictate policy, and not some pussy country like France. And it also allows us to guarantee the other NATO show up to fight when Uncle Sam comes calling


I disagree to an extent.

It should always have been a feature.
But it was a more recent one under Trump. I dont see any of that feature in 8 years under obama. Maybe you know something I dont.

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Hope they're excited for Harris to get the war machine fired up again



I dont know anything about Harris' global agenda. I'm curious if you see Biden as part of the globalist contingent? You seem concerned about China. But I see China as a piece of that globalist agenda. And biden is not only sympathetic to it but a large part of it.
Posted by dawgRUSH
New York, NY
Member since Nov 2011
951 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:32 am to
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Dont be an idiot.

People arent opening the mail in fulton and DeKalb counties.
Machines do it.

The fact still stands that there are breaks in the chain that slow things down.

Come on. Please be reasonable. This is 2020.


Sure there may be machines that open the mail but people are the ones operating it.

I agree that there are breaks in the chain. The point I’m making is that you can’t make the process faster by just adding staffers.
Posted by DubyaDee40
White
Member since Mar 2013
105 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:39 am to
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You dont get the best healthcare subsidized by the government.

you and I already don't receive the best healthcare. That's what I'm trying to tell you. The best healthcare is reserved for the super wealthy. I'm in the top 5% of earners in this country, and even I don't receive the top healthcare. Having a simple plan for all will not change that, and I'm OK with it for now. I just want people to not go bankrupt because of bad luck

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Your uncle doesnt get 1.5M in treatment for cancer subsidized by the government.

It's how it works in all the other countries. I've discussed a similar situation with one of my Canadian friends. He had colon cancer, and his OOP was $85.

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Canada just passed a law making extra coverage "not illegal".

This is a straight lie. It's been available for as long as I've know it. I'll even fact check you:

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In 2004, about 27.6% of Canadians' healthcare was paid for through the private sector.This mostly goes towards services not covered or partially covered by Medicare, such as prescription drugs, dentistry and optometry.A Strategic Counsel survey found 91% of Canadians prefer their healthcare system instead of a U.S. style system.


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And do you know what you are advocating? The same net outcome right now where the rich get better care by paying more.

I'm advocating a BASE healthcare system for the US. I want people to be able to go to the doctor, and get treatments without ruining their life. That's it.
Posted by DubyaDee40
White
Member since Mar 2013
105 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:41 am to
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Why should I pay more and take money from my family so you can have healthcare coverage that you like?

Huh? Are you saying you're subsidizing my healthcare choices? This statement makes no sense. You know through America's current health system you're already subsidizing the sick and paying more because of it right?
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7796 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:42 am to
More staffers?

Don't these people make minimum wage? I'm surprised they have enough people to do the work.
Posted by DubyaDee40
White
Member since Mar 2013
105 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:44 am to
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"In 2017, the liberal Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University found that 93 percent of CNN’s coverage of the Trump administration was negative


You know, I had really hoped that Trump's loss would trigger something in his mind like, "You know, maybe it was me who was wrong all this time, and I should become a better representative to all the people in this country"

But it seems to have done the opposite. He's doubled down on his dumbass, and know he wants to burn it all down. He'll burn it all down just so that he can be king of the ashes.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:50 am to
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I dont know anything about Harris' global agenda. I'm curious if you see Biden as part of the globalist contingent? You seem concerned about China. But I see China as a piece of that globalist agenda. And biden is not only sympathetic to it but a large part of it.


It depends what you mean by the globalist contingent. To the extent there is a globalist contingent, as I see it, it synonymous with multinational corporatism. Historically, nations gained wealth and power through war and conquest. These days, nations gain wealth and power by subjugating their own citizens under the boot of their most powerful corporations, who collude and stamp out any upstart competition.

Is Biden pro-corporate? I don't know. Obama certainly was, but I am hopeful that Biden will be much more pro-worker and pro-union. He certainly is less so than folks like Bernie Sanders or Ron Paul.

China is interesting. Like the West, it understands that it can use its corporations to help subjugate its people. Unlike the west, China is revanchist and is actively plotting to declare war and conquer its neighbors.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46950 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:13 am to
LINK

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The yuan-dollar exchange rate swung wildly in the wake of the US presidential election, but ended on a 28-month high for the Chinese currency as Democratic candidate Joe Biden appeared to inch closer to victory.


This should be all the proof needed that Harris was the absolute wrong choice. This is who the Chinese wanted to win our election.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:18 am to
There were a ton of politicians buying into the globalist agenda 6-8 years ago (republicans and democrats)

Every major county in Georgia was sending a group of delegates (politicians and business leaders) to china to learn how to integrate and expand through international partnerships.

6 years later, and there is a backlash on outsourcing overseas.

Biden definitely is a globalist.
I dont see how you can marry a concern for china and not have a concern for the future white house's approach to international relations.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:22 am to
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These days, nations gain wealth and power by subjugating their own citizens under the boot of their most powerful corporations, who collude and stamp out any upstart competition.


What corporations do you speak of?
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Like the West, it understands that it can use its corporations to help subjugate its people


You seem to have a strong understanding of these evil corporations. Which ones subjugate people?
Posted by athens-ga
athens, ga
Member since Jun 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Not for long. upwards of 8,000 military ballots that will be counted next week


IT Dawg are you ever right about anything. I mean, this is just data and your an IT guy?
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2891 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:21 pm to
Looking for a Komatsu D355A you know just in case.
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
1128 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:25 pm to
I didn’t read the whole thread so I’m not going to comment on the discussions.

However I grew up in a military family that has served for four generations, five if you consider contractors. What will happen with the military ballots results will reflect how patriots think this country should be ran and by whom. I know who I voted for and I don’t regret it one bit.

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Duty, Honor, Country" — those three hallowed words reverently dictate what you ought to be, what you can be, what you will be. They are your rallying point to build courage when courage seems to fail, to regain faith when there seems to be little cause for faith, to create hope when hope becomes forlorn.

Unhappily, I possess neither that eloquence of diction, that poetry of imagination, nor that brilliance of metaphor to tell you all that they mean. The unbelievers will say they are but words, but a slogan, but a flamboyant phrase. Every pedant, every demagogue, every cynic, every hypocrite, every troublemaker, and, I am sorry to say, some others of an entirely different character, will try to downgrade them even to the extent of mockery and ridicule
—-Douglas McArthur

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This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:27 pm to
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What corporations do you speak of?


Ok, you mention "globalists." If you're not talking about multinational corporations, who are you talking about?

Please don't tell me we are in Jewish cabal conspiracy territory.

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You seem to have a strong understanding of these evil corporations. Which ones subjugate people?


Any corporation large enough to have a monopoly, or who colludes with other large corporations to form an oligopoly. When I say subjugate, I mean economic subjugation.

The ability to pass meaningful anti-trust legislation has been corroded by decades of corporate money buying off politicians, on both sides. Donald Trump might have spoken with pro-worker rhetoric, but he signed each and every pro-corporate bill that McConnell and Ryan sent him; both of whom are bought by these crony interests.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 2:34 pm
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