DubyaDee40

The yeetus cleetus playoff deletus has now been cemented into history

11.2 QBR increase from 2017-2018

And then fell off a cliff from 2018 to 2019. 30.1 QBR drop, and you and I both know how many receivers he missed in 2019

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"In 2017, the liberal Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University found that 93 percent of CNN’s coverage of the Trump administration was negative

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You know, I had really hoped that Trump's loss would trigger something in his mind like, "You know, maybe it was me who was wrong all this time, and I should become a better representative to all the people in this country"

But it seems to have done the opposite. He's doubled down on his dumbass, and know he wants to burn it all down. He'll burn it all down just so that he can be king of the ashes.

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You dont get the best healthcare subsidized by the government.

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you and I already don't receive the best healthcare. That's what I'm trying to tell you. The best healthcare is reserved for the super wealthy. I'm in the top 5% of earners in this country, and even I don't receive the top healthcare. Having a simple plan for all will not change that, and I'm OK with it for now. I just want people to not go bankrupt because of bad luck

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Your uncle doesnt get 1.5M in treatment for cancer subsidized by the government.

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It's how it works in all the other countries. I've discussed a similar situation with one of my Canadian friends. He had colon cancer, and his OOP was $85.

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Canada just passed a law making extra coverage "not illegal".

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This is a straight lie. It's been available for as long as I've know it. I'll even fact check you:

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In 2004, about 27.6% of Canadians' healthcare was paid for through the private sector.This mostly goes towards services not covered or partially covered by Medicare, such as prescription drugs, dentistry and optometry.A Strategic Counsel survey found 91% of Canadians prefer their healthcare system instead of a U.S. style system.

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And do you know what you are advocating? The same net outcome right now where the rich get better care by paying more.

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I'm advocating a BASE healthcare system for the US. I want people to be able to go to the doctor, and get treatments without ruining their life. That's it.

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A loss leader public option would absolutely put a lot of plans out of business. All at the taxpayer expense. And when private plans go away, we are left with single payer through attrition.

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I want to be completely honest with you. I want to put aside all the internet memeing, and it's perfectly fine if, at the end of reading this, you disagree with me. I want to tell you why I'm for a single payer plan, and why it's not nearly as scary as it seems. I'm not even trying to change your mind. I'm just telling you why I choose single payer, as a person that lives in GA, not as a democrat or republican.

1) No one is saying it's free. I fully expect my taxes to increase by at least 15%, but if it decreases my health insurance by 100%, then it's still a net sum gain for my family of 4.

2) I do business around the world, and I've asked multiple folks what the wait times for your healthcare is and the response is pretty much the same. The Canadians had the longest wait time. "Typically, I have to schedule a month or 2 in advance if it's a routine physical, but specialists can be shorter or longer, usually no longer than 3 months. If it's an emergency, I've never had to wait". This is the response I've gotten in every country. There are no drastic wait times.

3) If you have a problem with paying for someone else's insurance, just remember, our prescription drug prices are currently subsidizing the cost AROUND THE WORLD. Your health insurance company has little to no leverage when it comes to reducing drug prices. So you have to ask why is it cheaper every where else? Because their government negotiates the prices. How do the drug companies stay in business when India's prices are so low? Because they get rich Americans to pay for it with them, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

4) In every country there's the option to pay for extra coverage. If you want to pay for premium care, then you have that choice. Yes, the health insurance companies will take a hit, or they'll be absorbed by the government. Private insurance will not disappear. Every country has the option to purchase additional. But these are companies that profit off life itself, and it's usually them who decide whether a person will live or die. And they've systematically raised prices and decreased coverage for decades. Should I really feel that sorry for them?

5) I grew up on a farm. The farm was my uncle's only source of income, and unfortunately, his wife developed breast cancer. Even with the insurance he had, he had to pay over $1.5m out of pocket for her treatments, and he nearly lost his home and his farm because of it. I'd love to see the day where going to the doctor doesn't ruin a family. This man had been working for 60 years in the sun, and nearly lost it all just because of bad luck.

I agree with the previous comments here. The US has the best quality of health care in the world if you're super rich. It's why you get million and billionaires coming to the US for medical treatments. But for guys like me, and I'm assuming the majority of this board, we don't receive that kind of treatment. The kind of treatment we receive is very much middle of the road to poor and far more expensive compared to the rest of the world.

That's not likely to go the way you want it too. There's 8900 ballots that were sent, that doesn't mean 8900 were sent back. Historically, it's closer to 1k, and according to the latest military poll. They're supporting Biden more than Trump.

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Too many sheeple bow to this invisible God of science when scientists will readily admit that they are discussing and pushing hypothesis and not facts. Trump isn't debating science. He is debating questionable hypothesis. And kudos to trump for not forcing Fauci or Birx to say things that they do not agree with.

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Imagine calling someone who devotes themselves to knowledge and testing of that knowledge a sheep. Trump basis his "knowledge" on "feelings" if you want a snowflake. It's people like this. They don't want to be proven wrong. They just want to be right. I'll gladly accept the day I'm wrong, and change my opinion. That's what science is about. Trump, and the people that worship and make excuses for Trump, are those that base their opinions on how they feel. It's what most closely correlates with their own self deterministic basis. Facts? Science? Testing? That doesn't matter to people like Trump. It's how they feel about it. Why do you think Trump surrounds himself with boot lickers? Because they make him feel good about himself.

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I don't need a police officer and a gun to tell me to act with caution.

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YOU don't, but you're a reasonable human being with decent morals as proven by previous comments. But I get what you're trying to say. Here's the thing. Bad people exist. Bad people will take advantage of those who are unable to take care of themselves.

Take for example the price gougers. Since you're a Libertarian, you think those price gougers were completely in the right to take advantage of the situation correct?

As a Libertarian, who do you side with when it comes to theft? Do you say that you're on the side of the rich man and his right to accumulate wealth an their pursuit of luxurious wealth? Or do you agree with the poor man and his right to take from the rich man's wealth to fulfill his basic of needs?

All philosophical of course, and it's outside what we're talking about. I'll never pretend I can change a person's core beliefs on an online forum. I just want to point out your hypocrisy when you thump your chest and proudly shout you're a Libertarian.

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You almost had 1 decent response. Yes. I'm a proud libertarian

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Yeah, I could tell from the way you respond. You think America is about being free regardless of the cost of human life. Selfish at best. Sociopath at worst.

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Your confusion is apparent when you think there is some violation in amendment 10. What the hell are you talking about? Amendment 10 is federalism and that's exactly what is being done

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You're right. I was confused, because I couldn't figure out why you'd drop the bill of rights out of the blue when it has nothing to do with anything, anyone, anywhere was talking about. I tried to connect the dots, and that's where amendment 10 came in. I guess I was pretty close considering your response.

I think what you're saying is that you are diametrically opposed to granting the federal government any more power to handle this situation. You believe that the states should be the ones to self govern, and open or close businesses. Is that what you're getting at? Just trying to get a clearer picture.

I'll be your huckleberry.

First, he could have not said these things which downplayed the seriousness of the virus:

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

“Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. I hope that’s true. But we’re doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s going to all work out fine.”

“In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it’s actually less.”

The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

“When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

This one is particularly bad. He turned the virus into a political grab.

“Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. … One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over. … And this is their new hoax.”

This was a lie

“Anybody that wants a test can get a test. That’s what the bottom line is.”

This was released on March 10th. Why couldn't he release this statement a month ago?

“My administration is recommending that all Americans, including the young and healthy, work to engage in schooling from home when possible. Avoid gathering in groups of more than 10 people. Avoid discretionary travel. And avoid eating and drinking at bars, restaurants and public food courts. If everyone makes … these critical changes and sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation and we will defeat the virus. And we’re going to have a big celebration all together. With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner and turn it quickly.”

But I digress. We all know Trump says stupid crap. On to bullet point #2:
He could have organized the federal government to supply state with health necessities instead of letting them fight it out amongst themselves.

bullet point #3: He could have had Alex Azar, his appointed covid task force head, to stop pushing anti abortion bills and focus on the pandemic. Dunno man, seems like a dumb use of your time.

bullet point #4: stop publicly disagreeing with Dr Fauci, who's been director of NIAD since 1984, on national TV.

bullet point #5: Release an actual plan to reopen the economy and the states, and then enforce it. Make the companies/corporations responsible for enforcing the guidelines. Have you been out recently? Nothing has changed. No one really cares about social distancing any more. No one is wearing masks. We're setting ourselves up for more failure. The economy HAS to reopen, or it'll get worse for everyone, but the way it has been opened. We didn't learn our lesson.

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It also reinforced what we've known for ages about sunlight,fresh air and the mitigation of the flu and other contagious
respitory illness. Sunlight,fresh air and virus mitigation.

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I mean, sounds interesting. But consider the logistics too. I don't know how many people are currently in the hospital, but can you imagine wheeling 200 folks and their ventilators inside when a thunderstorm pops up? It's about cost at that point.

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Like what specifically? Did you listened to DHS scientist and his preliminary conclusions? It was actually pretty informative and hopefully put an end to the idiotic "stay inside,stay alive" narrative

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I don't think it's idiotic. It appears to have worked for a number of countries.

And are you talking about Bill Bryan where he says heat and humidity appear to slow down the virus? Sounds promising, but the humidity statement directly contradicts the link you posted, and I think we just need to look at Brazil. They've got a president who considered covid-19 a hoax, and Brazil is in a tropical climate. They're not exactly in good shape.

Right, there's always going to be people who hate him because he's on the other side of the aisle. This thread is littered with him.

But I also think people need to stop making excuses for him. He's a grown arse man. If he can't form a coherent plan, present it, and then defend it effectively. Maybe he's just not the guy for the job.

I personally think Trump had a lot going for him on the economy side of things, but his style of politics are not making the country a better place right now.