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re: We’re a blue state now?
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:03 pm to baconwaffle
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:03 pm to baconwaffle
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Remember that time in Arizona
There's another time in Arizona that I remember, it's when hundreds of people in Red counties are reporting they were given sharpies instead of pens for the ballots, when the state's own voting info website says "Do Not Use A Sharpie" because the machines won't read it, then one specific lady who reported on camera that she brought her own pen and the pollsters tried to take it away from her. That was also three days ago. These reports only seem to be coming from affluent red areas where this would frick Trump out of alot more votes than Biden.
This could also explain why Trump keeps creeping up in AZ, if they are doing the right thing and curing these ballots, you'd see a daily creep up by republicans.
This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 2:05 pm
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Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:05 pm to deeprig9
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Would time stamped screenshots from the NYT election tracker suffice?
Not official, but sure, post them. I'd be curious to see.
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Would a tweet from the Chairman of the GA Republican Party
Lol no.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:38 pm to deeprig9
I read that story. What I saw was 134000 votes were uploaded. 93% for Biden. (That county avg was 88%)
I also read where it was a man stake and was changed. Someone added a 0.
It was 13,400 (93%) for Biden and was fixed once pointed out. I'm not saying they weren't trying to cheat... Because maybe they were. either way, it was caught and changed.
Edit: claiming 100% of the votes were for Biden is false. no one in their right mind trying to cheat would do a 100,000 vote upload with 100% Biden. It was damn near 100% at 93%, but that doesn't make it 100%. the added zero could have been an attempt to cheat. But again, was caught and changed.
I also read where it was a man stake and was changed. Someone added a 0.
It was 13,400 (93%) for Biden and was fixed once pointed out. I'm not saying they weren't trying to cheat... Because maybe they were. either way, it was caught and changed.
Edit: claiming 100% of the votes were for Biden is false. no one in their right mind trying to cheat would do a 100,000 vote upload with 100% Biden. It was damn near 100% at 93%, but that doesn't make it 100%. the added zero could have been an attempt to cheat. But again, was caught and changed.
This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:39 pm to deeprig9
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These reports only seem to be coming from affluent red areas where this would frick Trump out of alot more votes than Biden.
The only question I have is, "who is running the voting?" In that area.
Arizona is a republican governor.
I presume that a conservative county has a conservative running the elections within the county.
I agree that it stinks to high heaven in Arizona. But why are the people in charge not in charge?
Fulton county is another story.
It is a democrat led county. And questionable actions by the county elections commission (kicking out auditors and counters while processing ballots) is fricked up to hell.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:49 pm to deeprig9
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Would a tweet from the Chairman of the GA Republican Party saying his people were told to leave at night, but in the morning the precict released thousands more results of paper ballots suffice?
Lol no. He is one of those QANON weirdos. I'm not going to trust the word of someone who believes that the "deep state" has acquired alien weaponry, and that all American Jews are actively abducting children and taking them to pizza parlors to drink their blood with Hillary Clinton.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:49 pm to meansonny
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Dems dont want single payer healthcare?
Not all Dems want M4A and none of them are socialist. Yall just love throwing around words you don't understand because they're scary
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:51 pm to dawgfan24348
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Not all Dems want M4A
You got a list of names?
Because they are all for it until someone explains that it will eradicate personal choice for health insurance/care.
Then the democrat walks back the position (not before)
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Yall just love throwing around words you don't understand because they're scary
Do you think single payer is scary?
I do.
This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:54 pm to deeprig9
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Would a tweet from the Chairman of the GA Republican Party saying his people were told to leave at night, but in the morning the precict released thousands more results of paper ballots suffice?
Well... I'd believe it a lot more if there was some kind of corroboration from someone who doesn't actively have a dog in the fight, but we'll at least admit it as exhibit A.
I did come across this AJC link (ignore headline as with most bullshite in that paper) LINK /
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There was backlash internally and externally, but Barron said he sent almost all of his staff, who’d worked long hours and at a point were becoming “counter-productive.” So GOP observers thought all was done for the night.
But five county workers stayed to do final processing of ballots until 1 a.m., under the supervision of a state observer.
Fulton commissioner Liz Hausmann, a Republican, told Barron on Wednesday that “the Georgia GOP does not think we treated them fairly.”
“We can’t even have the appearance that we don’t want them to (observe),” she said.
Barron said he was aware of the mistake and that the GOP was certainly welcome to observe.
Is there any indication of how many actual votes were added between 10:30 and 1am by these "five workers"? Who was the state observer? Have they confirmed that they were in fact observing?
I'm with you in that there was no reason for them to do it without additional observers present, but this seems a little closer to a he said/she said than outright "we're going to frick them while they sleep" sort of moment.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:58 pm to meansonny
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You got a list of names?
Biden
Obama
Pelosi
Harris
Basically any establishment Dem
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Do you think single payer is scary?
I do.
Congrats on not understanding UHC. Every other 1st world country has some form of UHC. Maybe just maybe we're the werid outlier in this situation
Posted on 11/6/20 at 3:00 pm to RD Dawg
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Georgia did sent out unsolicited ballots for absentee voting which Republicans in the legislaturd
tried to stop
So unless I'm missing something from what you linked... Those were ballot *requests* - meaning you still had to apply for the ballot, and it had to go through all the same approvals as any other ballot application (overseen by Raffensperger's crew at the state level one would assume?) The only difference is you didn't have to actively go print out the application and mail it back in (or do it from the my voter page). It's still a *solicited* absentee ballot, in that someone had to say "yes, I want one of those". If there were mysterious ballots to be harvested after that, then you have to look at Raffensperger because it's no different than any other absentee request once it hit their office.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 3:03 pm to deeprig9
Also, deeprig, look at Kent County Michigan. In Michigan, Grand Rapids is to Republicans what Mecca is to Muslims. Betsy DeVos literally owns half of the property in that city. All levels of power are controlled by Republicans.
And yet it goes to Biden. Also please note that it also voted overwhelmingly for the Republican House candidate.
And yet it goes to Biden. Also please note that it also voted overwhelmingly for the Republican House candidate.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 3:19 pm to dawgfan24348
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You got a list of names?
Biden
Obama
Pelosi
Harris
Obama for single payer
Pelosi loved single payer and bashed Clinton not being single payer
Harris co-signed Bernies "medicare for all" proposal.
She is the queen of being against it before she was for it prior to wanting to slow it down right before she cosigned Bernie's plan.
Kamala dances all over this issue- link from 2019 before she cosigned Bernie's plan in 2020
And lastly:
Biden "Public Option" to compete with private health insurance will pave the way for single payer medicare for all
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Congrats on not understanding UHC. Every other 1st world country has some form of UHC. Maybe just maybe we're the werid outlier in this situation
LOL
We have the best health care in the world.
I absolutely agree that we are the outlier.
Greater than is the side of the outlier that I want to be on.
I won't ask again because you obviously aren't scared of a single payer system.
You obviously aren't scared of the government (who is running these elections so well) telling you what health procedures that you can and can't have. Or your spouse. Or your parents. Or your kids. Or your grandparents.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 4:28 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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And Biden got more votes than rockstar Obama did both times???
That’s where people like Stacey Abrams made a huge impact.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 4:33 pm to deeprig9
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Do yall remember that time up in Michigan when they released 134,000 new results between 3am and 7 am, and every single one of them was for Biden? Literally not one single vote for Trump, in a competitive swing state that is almost 50/50, not one single vote in a dump of 134,000 results for Trump.
That was an error that ended up being corrected. I’ll provide the link shortly.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 5:21 pm to baconwaffle
And that doesn't make you raise an eyebrow?
Posted on 11/6/20 at 5:34 pm to Dawgsontop34
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That’s where people like Stacey Abrams made a huge impact.
One of my Lawyers is in with her. Rich dude. Ivy League. Doesn’t seem like the type who would be in that crowd. Good dude thoough.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:05 pm to meansonny
Pelosi is not for M4A as of 2019
LINK /
Kamala also backed away when asked about M4A
LINK
Biden's plan is Obamacare lite and therefore is not M4A nice try
Agreed if you can afford it
Sweet fear mongering bro, totally makes up for people entering medical bankruptcy and not being able to afford treatment. Millions without insurance in a pandemic all because people like you are scared of something everyone else has
LINK /
Kamala also backed away when asked about M4A
LINK
Biden's plan is Obamacare lite and therefore is not M4A nice try
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We have the best health care in the world.
Agreed if you can afford it
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You obviously aren't scared of the government (who is running these elections so well) telling you what health procedures that you can and can't have. Or your spouse. Or your parents. Or your kids. Or your grandparents.
Sweet fear mongering bro, totally makes up for people entering medical bankruptcy and not being able to afford treatment. Millions without insurance in a pandemic all because people like you are scared of something everyone else has
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:20 pm to dawgfan24348
Lol
She knows it is a losing proposition (both politically and for our country).
She absolutely was for it before she was against it.
Kamala cosponsored Bernies single payer plan in April this year. She was for it before she was against it before she was for it before she was against.
They are for it before they are against it before they are for it.
All of them.
And bidens campaign absolutely said that his public option is a great pathway for single payer.
A loss leader public option would absolutely put a lot of plans out of business. All at the taxpayer expense. And when private plans go away, we are left with single payer through attrition.
Lol. This is Obamacare. Millions of people without insurance because they choose to be without insurance.
That is the definition of Obamacare.
The uninsured choose it (my brother does. He hates health insurance. Would rather tell his daughter to "not get sick". He cancelled his crappy obamacare plan when they told him his physical was available in 2 months. And that crappy plan didnt even cover the physical).
Fear mongering over the uninsured who choose to be uninsured. If that doesnt define the democratic party to a T
Do you know what fear mongering means?
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Pelosi is not for M4A as of 2019
She knows it is a losing proposition (both politically and for our country).
She absolutely was for it before she was against it.
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Kamala also backed away when asked about M4A
Kamala cosponsored Bernies single payer plan in April this year. She was for it before she was against it before she was for it before she was against.
They are for it before they are against it before they are for it.
All of them.
And bidens campaign absolutely said that his public option is a great pathway for single payer.
A loss leader public option would absolutely put a lot of plans out of business. All at the taxpayer expense. And when private plans go away, we are left with single payer through attrition.
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Millions without insurance in a pandemic
Lol. This is Obamacare. Millions of people without insurance because they choose to be without insurance.
That is the definition of Obamacare.
The uninsured choose it (my brother does. He hates health insurance. Would rather tell his daughter to "not get sick". He cancelled his crappy obamacare plan when they told him his physical was available in 2 months. And that crappy plan didnt even cover the physical).
Fear mongering over the uninsured who choose to be uninsured. If that doesnt define the democratic party to a T
Do you know what fear mongering means?
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:25 pm to dawgfan24348
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We have the best health care in the world.
Agreed if you can afford it
Well. This is america.
We have the wealthiest poor people in the world.
You must be a socialist (lol)
If you can afford it...
Do you expect free shite?
Should the best cost the same as the worst?
How old are you?
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