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re: Urban Meyer predicts that 2020 is Florida's year
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:12 am to Lucius Clay
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:12 am to Lucius Clay
'this is gonna be the year' is where we are now?
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:15 am to E.Hubble
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'this is gonna be the year' is where we are now?
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:25 pm to djsdawg
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If this isn’t the year, then when can be the year? It’s bound to happen one day.
There will come a year, but it is not this year.
We have to remember Newman doesn't have to be amazing to be better than Fromm was last season, and the great 2019 Georgia defense will be even better in 2020.
I'm not saying that the game is impossible to lose, but the gap is wider than it was last season. If this team comes to play they will dismantle Florida.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:35 pm to chillmonster
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but the gap is wider than it was last season.
Who all did they lose?
I know most of the WRs and Perine are gone from the offense, but who all will be missing from that vaunted Gators defense from last year?
Posted on 3/11/20 at 1:06 pm to DirtyDawg
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I know most of the WRs and Perine are gone from the offense, but who all will be missing from that vaunted Gators defense from last year?
They lost their 2 best guys in the secondary (Wilson and Henderson?), Reese, their best LB and Greenard and Zuniga their best pass rushers and a couple of their WRs and their Center.
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They usually come up with some pretty good talent and have recruited pretty well at those positions. the only ones I am not sure about is who will replace their pass rushers.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 4:00 pm to DirtyDawg
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Who all did they lose?
I know most of the WRs and Perine are gone from the offense, but who all will be missing from that vaunted Gators defense from last year?
They'll return most of what was a so-so offensive line last season, so that unit should be better. However, they lost most of the production from the skill positions on offense, their best pass rushers, and their best defensive backs.
Their offense might look a lot like the UGA offense in 2019 minus the stud WR recruits, first round running back, and all the NFL players on the offensive line. On D they'll be working with less on the edge, so Grantham will (of course) be blitzing like crazy to fabricate a pass rush. We'll see if that Elam and that young secondary are ready for the challenge.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:42 pm to chillmonster
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Their offense might look a lot like the UGA offense in 2019 minus the stud WR recruits, first round running back, and all the NFL players on the offensive line.
UF returns its top pass catcher Kyle Pitts (arguably the best TE in the country), former 5-star Trevon Grimes, former 4* WR Jacob Copeland, and arguably its most explosive playmaker Kadarius Toney, who was hurt most of last year. So 4 very experienced pass catchers, with plenty of talented freshman. That is NOT at all what UGA had to deal with last year.
At RB, UF returns junior Dameon Pierce, senior RB Malik Davis (talented, but unfortunately hurt by injury after injury), Nayquan Wright, and former 5 star transfer Lorenzo Lingard, who per several people I trust, has a good shot at getting a waiver this year.
The OL, for what everyone loves to shite on who didn't watch UF grow, is a little better than the general public believes. The OL was actually one of the best in the conference in pass protection, and with experience from last year, should be a little better in run blocking as well. The running game in particular was MUCH improved towards the end of last season as opposed to earlier in the season.
So I disagree with your assessment completely. You underestimate just how much talent and depth UF had at WR last year.
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On D they'll be working with less on the edge, so Grantham will (of course) be blitzing like crazy to fabricate a pass rush. We'll see if that Elam and that young secondary are ready for the challenge.
I'm more concerned about the defense, but you have Brenton Cox, Khris Bogle, Mahamud Diabate, Tederrell Slaton, and the young talent in this year's class.
Marco Wilson is also back in the secondary (someone in this thread said he left), and both starting safeties are back too. Kair Elam also had the lowest passer rating allowed out of any freshman CB last year, including Derek Stingley, albeit with a smaller sample size, as Elam didn't get much opportunities earlier in the year.
The secondary is not "young" as a whole. Maybe "younger" at the cornerback position than UF has had in the past, but the safeties Davis and Stewart are both very experienced.
I guess my response to this thread as a total, is I'm not thrilled that Mullen is getting a lot of praise and hype, and UF in general is being considered a "dark horse" (even though that sounds weird). Historically in his career, Mullen, and his teams, have done better with lower expectations. But that is not the standard at UF.
If Mullen is to prove he is the guy for the future for UF, he must deal with expectations, and he must beat UGA to accomplish that.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:16 pm to boXerrumble
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but you have Brenton Cox, Khris Bogle, Mahamud Diabate, Tederrell Slaton, and the young talent in this year's class.
Yea, y’all are fricked if Brenton Cox is the first player you name when talking about your defense lol
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:38 pm to RunLindsayRun
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Yea, y’all are fricked if Brenton Cox is the first player you name when talking about your defense lol
I realize this is a UGA forum, but this is a pretty lazy take.
Cox had a productive first season at UGA. Grantham has always developed edge rushers very well. I think odds are that Cox has a very productive season. In general, UF has had a lot of success with incoming transfers.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:13 am to boXerrumble
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Cox had a productive first season at UGA. Grantham has always developed edge rushers very well. I think odds are that Cox has a very productive season.
He's pretty solid a rusher but he was below average on playing the run, specifically keeping the edge. He cost us in a couple of games because of that. Grantham does a damn good job with the OLBs so I'd expect a good season out of him.
But still, frick him for being a cancer when he was here.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:45 pm to boXerrumble
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Cox had a productive first season at UGA.
Productive for a true freshman.
He worked his way up to 2nd string, but kept losing ground due to his inability to diagnose a run play.
That next spring he was getting passed by juco transfers and true freshmen.
He walked away from UGA because he wasnt good enough.
That was 2 seasons ago. So maybe hes different. But if he is the best that you've got... you might want to rethink your optimism.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:32 pm to boXerrumble
quote:Well that’s unfortunate for him then.
If Mullen is to prove he is the guy for the future for UF, he must deal with expectations, and he must beat UGA to accomplish that.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:04 am to meansonny
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But if he is the best that you've got... you might want to rethink your optimism.
Hes not
The defense returns a lot of young talent that got a ton of experience last year, especially in the secondary and on the DL, due to injuries. Cox is (deny it all you want) a talented player, who will make a huge difference if Grantham turns him into another elite edge rusher.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:13 am to boXerrumble
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Hes not
I disagree
Every florida fan lists him first when looking to replace last year's production. His name is the knee jerk first response for some reason.
And as far as young experience, there was a lot of complaining and groaning about the production from Gator fans all year on those player's usage. Maybe they got better by the Virginia game. I was following comments and podcasts leading up to that game and not after. But Grantham was getting heat from fans because of the play on those younger players.
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