re: UGA Season Long Basketball Thread (18-15, 7-11); Georgia to decline NIT bid

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Edit: Im not going to say I know hardly anything about gymnastics, but I do know that they had over 11k people at the home meet against Auburn last night. 

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You realize our last two home basketball games were sellouts, right?

I'm all about stability, but why can't we find stability with a guy who doesn't WASTE the careers of two of the best players to come through this program since Dominique?

We got J.J. Frazier and Yante Maten and accomplished neither jack nor shite.

UGA COULD be a destination-type job (unless a school like Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc come calling) if we were get serious about our basketball program. Look at Gregg Marshall at Wichita State; he's turned down some pretty good big-time offers because they are committed to building a good basketball program. Not sure we will be there any time soon, though.

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UGA COULD be a destination-type job (unless a school like Duke, UNC, Kentucky, etc come calling) if we were get serious about our basketball program. Look at Gregg Marshall at Wichita State; he's turned down some pretty good big-time offers because they are committed to building a good basketball program. Not sure we will be there any time soon, though.

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I'd agree... you have to identify the guy who isn't looking for the spotlight so much though. Marshall and Few are good examples. Georgia basketball is closer to those programs in terms of "limelight" than it is the UK/UNC/Duke(s) of the world... but still not there in the production.

Unfortunately, the only way I see the university/administration/$$$ getting committed to any kind of sustained success in basketball is if we have some consistent runs to get to the tournament and throw in some wins... it will be the "if you come, we will build it" approach as opposed to vice versa. Crowds are getting better this year, we have a team that could be very special, but maddeningly frustrating in-game decisions from Fox.

I'm more on the side of who do we land that is an improvement (that will stick) this year though, than I have been in years past. I think there was a good argument for Chris Collins a year ago... now between NW regressing and getting closer to Coach K retirement, and him potentially getting the tap, may be a non-starter. Hurley at URI is a good coach who turned down Rutgers in 16... likely would either turn us down or be looking for the next best spot... don't see him being a "fit".

For anyone on the "fire Fox" train... I'd be interested in seeing discussion on who you see as a realistic potential improvements that would stick around a minimum of 4-5 seasons, with good odds at longer if the university were committed to keeping them.

I'm all for having the discussion as I *don't* believe he is going to move us to where we want to be, and I've been on record with that for a long time... but I'm also not a "burn everything to the ground" guy, so it's gotta have merit and basis in reality of who we could realistically land *and* more importantly, keep around long enough to matter.

It's not my job to identify promising up and coming D3 basketball coaches. It's big ears. The coach will have to come from a very small school who has them doing well that sees what GA could be

You sound like a complaining brat that complains to complain without ever providing a solution for your complaint.

Good points...quiet possibly the most constructive post I’ve seen you make on here.

We differing philosophies and I respect that. I just believe we have a stable stock that is slowly rising and we should hold our current position until we we can purchase stock that we know is an elevation. Matt McCall is not really that guy that we know will elevate the program.

I’m just saying we don’t need to enter into a world of volatility because we want to win now. I would argue that Auburn football is the perfect example as to what you are hoping to go to. Auburn has a chance at a title 1 out of every 4 years and a losing record 1 out of every 4 years and they are average in the years in between.

I've posted at length on the topic in the past and rockchalk always gets on to me, but I mean I just don't see how anyone with UGA basketball's best interest at heart can be content to keep plugging along with what we can all see. This isn't year 2 or 3, it's year 9. And unlike Richt who faltered in year 9, 10, etc...he at at least accomplished something and won something of substance at some point, which Fox has not. Every SEC school has won a tourney game more recently than we have. We join a losers club of 3 that haven't been to a sweet 16 since 2000. We've been ranked for a total of 1 week during Fox's tenure. There is simply no rational, logical, justifiable reason to look at that and say "this is acceptable".

There are ONLY 2 reasons why anyone could even potentially think keeping fox is a good idea:
1) If we fire him we might lose the 2 good recruits we have committed
2) If we fire him we may take a step back

On number 1, so what? We've rarely recruited anyone great under fox outside of maybe 3 or 4 guys and it hasn't gotten us squat. On number 2, take a step back to what? Losing in the 1st round of the NIT instead of the 2nd? Missing on the NIT? Who cares?

the most depressing thing to me is that nobody in B-M seems to even care, or even acknowledge we have a basketball program. I'm sure all the big money boosters, athletic board members, Mcgarity, etc all have a prime focus on football which is fine and they should. But it's like now we've got football on the right track everythign else jsut disappears. We have a lousy basketball coach and an abortion of a baseball coach and nobody is even having a discussion on if they should still be here or not. Perno led us to the CWS final and was fired after not making the postseason back to back years. Stricklin has been here what, like 5 years and hasn't even gone .500 if memory serves and he just gets a pat on the back and a "get em next year". It's repulsive.

Is there any history of NBA assistants moving from the NBA to college head coach? Anthony Grant was a college guy who bounced to the pros for 3 years, then came back... can't think of any others off the top of my head though.

If we thought there was any shot at it, Darvin Ham (lead assistant coach for the Hawks) would be an interesting guy to look at, but I guess the fear is he might be close to getting tapped for an NBA job... The counterpoint though, is that there has been so much turnover in the NBA head coaching ranks, that it may be a little while before that becomes an option... I see the work that they've done to get as much out of a pretty poor Hawks roster as impressive. Chris Fleming (Brooklyn) is another assistant that would be interesting... for similar reasons... a big X/O guy by all accounts.

I think Ed Cooley is a really good coach, but he's reportedly turned down offers from Pitt, Ga Tech, Cal, and Tennessee among others in the last several years. Probably a zero percent chance of getting him to even nibble.

Let's get some names out there... if you could wave a half broken magic wand and have the coach that you want at UGA tomorrow *that you think we could realistically pull*... who is it... why?