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Thoughts on Kelee Ringo

Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:00 am
I know some of y'all don't care for Top Billin', but he gives a pretty good summary of Kelee Ringo this season.

LINK
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19888 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:19 am to
I watched that. I like how he breaks it down. Loves him some Grandaddy though
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15872 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:27 am to
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Grandaddy


Yes he does
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:38 am to
I didn't even get through the first rep from Murf before turning off.

First, murf says he is not good but that he would draft him 1st round.
That is the stupidest shite to come out of an analysts mouth ever.
What he means to say (and is the problem for Kelee) is that everything Ringo does is compared to being a 1st round draft pick. Everything. Only an a-hole with a microphone would say kelee isn't good. Bad football players don't get drafted first round. 2nd and 3rd round players may get drafted 1st round. But that is saying something completely different. Isn't it?

Second, murf nails the mistake by kelee. He doesn't get hands on. Kelee is hoping to run the route for the receiver. It is obvious why he isn't getting hands on (because he wants to stay balanced without getting over his toes and having to catch up to the receiver).
This bites Kelee because the QB has what murf calls product placement. The ball is placed only where the receiver can catch the ball. There is no play for Ringo without going through the receiver.

The only way kelee makes a first round play on that throw is to push the receiver to the sideline and shrink the space. Then kelee is in phase and in route to play the ball (or the ball must be out of bounds if on that back shoulder). This is basic football. But hard to do when you have big receivers running just over 4.4 forties.

Murf likes to talk big and down to players with more skill than he ever had. It is half of his shtick (the other half is talking up and defending his "my guys").

Let me know if it is worthwhile to watch any further. If murf has any real content, I don't mind watching. But dogging on a 1st rounder when he is playing like a top 60 pick isn't worth my time. Without product placement, Ringo ran the route and would have made the play. It was far from a 1st round grade. But a DB can only cover half a receiver. There is always a spot for a QB to place the ball against single coverage.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:27 pm to
He doesn’t even know if he is playing zone or man. Dude is nothing more than a click whore.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11135 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:34 pm to
My thoughts are it appears Kelee needs to be 3 inches taller or learn to jump higher. Seems a large number of balls go just over his outreached hands.

Last game was not his best game.
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
2301 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:59 pm to
He’s great at being in phase but is a tad tight in the hips and sometimes misplays the ball in the air. Also if something goes wrong he doesn’t do a good job of staying composed and basically just tackles the receiver sometimes unnecessarily. I think he’s better than he’s played at times but by no means some bum.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18967 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:48 pm to
I’m not an X’s and O’s guy but from what I’ve seen Ringo gets put on an island a lot defending the best the other team has to offer…sometimes he gets beat….sometimes he gets a pick…sometimes he gets PI.

Comes with the territory.

After his picks against Bama and TN I’ll cut the kid some slack
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
16529 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:57 pm to
Yeah… he kinda makes big plays when they matter most eh? I’m with you.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:03 am to
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he kinda makes big plays when they matter most eh? I’m with you.



CBs also suffer from negativity bias in people's review of them. They can give you their best play 9 times out of 10, but the average fan clings to that 1 negative outcome as the truth more so than the 9 times they performed perfectly.
Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
6312 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:59 pm to
Who was Ringo matched up with against TN Hyatt? I’ll let that say it all Hyatt didn’t have a big day if I remember correctly
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2984 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Who was Ringo matched up with against TN Hyatt? I’ll let that say it all Hyatt didn’t have a big day if I remember correctly



Seems like we got burned a few times and Hooker just missed the receiver I dunno. Hope Kelee plays lights out in the playoffs. Well hell I hope they all do
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
2301 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:58 pm to
He largely matched against Tillman mostly which makes sense as he’s the big body receiver.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11348 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:06 pm to
He gets beat mostly in any 1:1 where the ball is thrown his way and the WR has a chance to catch it.

Not sure why he is afraid to jump for a ball or look for it when a qb throws it up for grabs.

Looks like a 5u player all twisted and lacks composure.

The times he makes the INT is when the ball is basically thrown right to him.

Not sure why you all are cutting him so much slack, he sucks at playing the ball. Great at playing the man though.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:51 pm to
I disagree.

2nd on the team in INTs. They aren't "just throwing him the ball". One of those INTs may be one of the best in college football this season.

2nd on the team in passes broken up.

DBs get beat. This is Kelee's 2nd season of college football. And he was somewhat of a developmental type player coming in.

You can name a starter and I can pull 10+ snaps of why he looks like shite.
But we don't do that to everyone else because not everyone else is projected to be a first rounder.
I get it. Kelee is held to a different standard. Pressure is a privilege.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11348 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:07 pm to
BS

That dude got torched against LSU and looked disinterested to the point I questioned if he was shutting shite down for the draft.

Even the Bucknuts boards are talking up how they are watching Ringo and Harrison is going to smoke him. Hell, LSU fans were saying how awful he looked and couldn't believe it.

Against UT, Tillman averaged 10 yards per catch against Ringo. That int play was thrown right to him like he was the WR, bad under throw by Hooker.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

That dude got torched against LSU and looked disinterested to the point I questioned if he was shutting shite down for the draft.



You would think that.
Because half of those errors were on the safeties. "Disinterested" is Kelee defending his zone and doing his job when the receiver is in someone else's zone.
quote:

Even the Bucknuts boards are talking up how they are watching Ringo and Harrison is going to smoke him.

Every opponent wants to "torch" the other team.
You are very astute.
quote:

That int play was thrown right to him like he was the WR, bad under throw by Hooker.

Lol. Rewatch the play.
Better yet. Don't. You might hurt yourself. Lol
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:23 pm to
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Not sure why he is afraid to jump for a ball or look for it when a qb throws it up for grabs.


You conveniently forget the pbu in the endzone by kelee where he almost got the INT against LSU. Made a great attempt at the ball. If the QB threw a catchable ball for the receiver, it would have been an INT.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:28 pm to
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That int play was thrown right to him like he was the WR, bad under throw by Hooker


I'd say that's a good thing for Ringo. What's a better way to defend the play than running the play for the opposing player?

Ringo had the ability, understanding, and execution to arrive at that point. He fought 1 v 1 against his man and he beat the shite out of him and got the ball back.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:31 pm to
He doesn't remember anything about the INT.

Ringo stacked the receiver.
An underthrow would have benefited the offense.

It was a first round play. Extremely difficult to do. As I said, one of the best INTs in college football all year.
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