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re: Thomas Brown joining Richt in Miami
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:48 am to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:48 am to fibonaccisquared
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As has been stated many times, a tight spiral and quick delivery only matter if the ball goes to the right location or the right player... I just never saw any ability to read, so while that can be a learned skill, the fact that he started from ground zero was a pretty big hurdle to overcome. Right, wrong or indifferent, he simply wasn't prepared for the college game when he got to campus, and you can blame coaches if you want, but the best players get out there and learn what they need to... spend time watching film, asking the right questions, seeking knowledge. Either he failed to do so, or he's so incredibly slow that even with that, he still wasn't up to speed.
a coaches job is to aid him in that process...after CMB left how much do you think he got from Schitty?..you make valid points...and to me it isn't so much about BR anymore...its about where we were allowed to get to under CMR..but it is so sad that we were on the edge of our seats and on the brink of meltdown waiting for Eason to decide...that should never have happened and we were scared for all the great points that WG has said in other threads about where we would be had Eason not come....BR had raw talent that needed to be developed and I believe he could have been an asset...if trained and used properly...Bauta as well....but this year with BRIAN was a complete waste at the position...
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:49 am to SthGADawg
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my point is, why did we not give him more opportunity to develop?
Uh, he's had several years to develop. It's called practice. He's had multiple spring practices, summer work, and fall camps to develop.
Your #1 argument that you seem to come back to in this is that Ramsey would shine if bobo were here. What does that say about a QB? "Well, the guy is raw and didn't play in the best system in HS, but with this ONE coach he could be great! No other coach apparently, just the one. Then you'd see".
If you're good, you're good. Obviously some people are better QB mentors than others, but what does it say that a guy coming in brand spanking new from scratch, with no preconceived notions, thought a transfer on campus for 2 months was better than ramsey? I doubt richt is just chilling in his office with a bowl during practices, I'm sure he had his eye on the QBs the entire offseason. And he went with lambert as well.
He has had ample time to develop, and apparently our coachign staff didn't have enough faith in him to actually play him when it matters. That's all I really need to know.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:51 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Don't want to say I told you so, but....
Dude you are such a loser. Honestly - you should stop being a UGA fan and be a Miami fan.
I swear....Richt had some type of cult fandom on some of these retards.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:53 am to fibonaccisquared
which is why I roll my eyes at the fanbase...did we honestly think a new OC and a cast off transfer qb from fricking UVA was our FUTURE?...no everybody wanted to ignore that we may have still been developing and we were just gonna ride Chubb to a championship...I thought that was fool hearty but nevertheless what most of our fans thought would happen..and then it didn't....I guess what im saying is instead of thinking that we were gonna win it all with a patchwork offense with only one real proven threat receiver (Mitchell)..was dumb..we should have been thinking about 16' this year and developing a guy that has a lot more eligibility left may have been a better option...but no...we must win the SEC now..NOW damnit...
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:55 am to SthGADawg
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something gay as frick
It's the only thing that explains why you continue to knight for this kid. He's had the opportunity to develop, maybe he just doesn't have the capacity. He turned out to be a serviceable punter so he hasn't been a total waste of a scholarship.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:57 am to WG_Dawg
WG I like you a lot man cause you always back up your argument really well...without throwing middle school jabs about dick in arse or my mom or whatever...we just have to agree to disagree...and I actually agree with you on most points..the biggest one being that we shouldn't have had our whole future invested in Lake Stevens, Washington...
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:58 am to SthGADawg
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we should have been thinking about 16' this year and developing a guy that has a lot more eligibility left may have been a better option...but no...we must win the SEC now..NOW damnit...
Well, fans don't make any decisions. Coaches make those decisions, and it turns out they were right that they had to make the best decisions for now. They got fired because '15 didn't go well enough.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 9:58 am to SneakyWaff1es
I know him...and his family...that has a lot to do with it...and yes he has turned out well as a punter...he was a kicker by trade from MS up...imho he should place kick as well..he holds the GA state HS record for longest field goal if I'm not mistaken...
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:03 am to Crowknowsbest
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fans don't make any decisions
unless they give tons of money to the program..those folks are fans...and they wanted the results Bama has been getting...which is why they hired Kirby...but don't think they didn't want to win and win now...that pressure is what caused the coaches to attempt what they did in 15'...which was foolish in this fans opinion..
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:05 am to WG_Dawg
WG_Dawg
From that link.....is Chris Blankenship Roddriqo'd dad?
From that link.....is Chris Blankenship Roddriqo'd dad?
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:06 am to WG_Dawg
not the state record...I admit fault on that mistake...but...
from the AJC... LINK
ETA: I think it's a Camden record...sorry bout that
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May push for playing time next year at kicker after booting a 57-yard field goal at Camden
from the AJC... LINK
ETA: I think it's a Camden record...sorry bout that
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:08 am to SthGADawg
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but don't think they didn't want to win and win now
I know they did. They'd been patient for a long time but weren't seeing the pay-off.
If Ramsey wants the job, he needs to beat out everybody else in practice. It's a new staff now. The whole "he hasn't gotten an opportunity" is entitlement bullshite imo. He had every opportunity to beat out Lambert all spring and summer and now has the same opportunity.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:09 am to tissle
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From that link.....is Chris Blankenship Roddriqo'd dad?
No idea man.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:11 am to Crowknowsbest
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The whole "he hasn't gotten an opportunity" is entitlement bullshite imo.
touche'
he needs to step his game up for the new OC...the third in his tenure at UGA I might add...which kinda supports my argument...but you are correct...he needs to earn it..not be handed anything...BUT...I think he may be practicing with the kickers from here on out...as is being mildly discussed in the other posts..
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:13 am to SthGADawg
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BUT...I think he may be practicing with the kickers from here on out...as is being mildly discussed in the other posts..
Can't remember where I saw it, but I thought I read somewhere that Kirby reached out to bobo to talk about BR, and then called BR into his office and asked which position he'd rather play and he said QB so kirby is leaving him there.
I might be misremembering or maybe it's incorrect but for some reason I thought brice was going to switch back exclusively to QB. Althought the dude is a hell of a punter.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:16 am to WG_Dawg
I think he'll stay at QB. We only have three QBs, and none of them have a firm grasp on the position. That said, he'll probably still be our best punter.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:17 am to WG_Dawg
he will likely discuss with his family about which is the best for his future...that is kinda his process...given how his career has gone at qb...and the vital years we discussed obviously not setting him up for opportunity as a starter at qb this year either, if I were him id go kick....kickers make decent money in the NFL...certainly nothing to be ashamed of
ETA: backup qb's make decent cash too so there's that...he may be content to hold a clip board and then go coach HS or something
ETA: backup qb's make decent cash too so there's that...he may be content to hold a clip board and then go coach HS or something
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:23 am to SthGADawg
I think that's more of the situation that Richt got us to. Much as you said earlier, we shouldn't have *been* in that position. Had 2012-2014 gone differently, Richt may have had a bit more leash to have a "development" year. Unfortunately, he missed his windows with some of the best QB talent we've ever had, but given the 9-10 win seasons it was difficult to make the case to send him packing. Cue 2015 where you have big expectations with improved defense under Pruitt and still have Chubb to start the year... you figure a blind monkey at the QB position can throw to our tight ends and hand off to Chubb... unfortunately, the talent either wasn't there or wasn't ready.
Realistically, if we don't lose that game to Florida, Richt is still here. The problem with that is, we still don't have an answer at QB. Brice Ramsey will then have 2 years left, Lambert with 1, and Eason a true freshman. Likely in that scenario, you *still* roll Eason out because you haven't seen enough from Ramsey to warrant the opportunity and you now know what you have with Lambert. Freshman growing pains would probably be tolerated at that point. Ramsey needed to grab the reins and he just didn't... he's now in perma-backup mode.
Realistically, if we don't lose that game to Florida, Richt is still here. The problem with that is, we still don't have an answer at QB. Brice Ramsey will then have 2 years left, Lambert with 1, and Eason a true freshman. Likely in that scenario, you *still* roll Eason out because you haven't seen enough from Ramsey to warrant the opportunity and you now know what you have with Lambert. Freshman growing pains would probably be tolerated at that point. Ramsey needed to grab the reins and he just didn't... he's now in perma-backup mode.
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:28 am to fibonaccisquared
well said...
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