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re: This Is A Weird Team To Figure Out

Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:18 pm to
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I thought the whole point of the "process" was it's about us and our preparation regardless of the opponent.


They are human and did a good job of responding. Also, I am not unconvinced some of those struggles have been manufactured by Kirby
Posted by TheWoodsEastofAthens
East of Athens
Member since Sep 2021
133 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 9:32 pm to
Most years I yell at my TV like an a-hole if we're doing inexcusibly bad...which of course has been rare these past two seasons in particular, but during the Kent State my arse was going: < just imagine the brickwall as a 58 inch Vizio TV

Mizzou wasn't quite as inexcusible but it was still a very frustrating ball for several reasons. The offense had multiple bad to crap luck turnovers in the first half. The defense held strong, but their kicker Mevis was 3ing us to death with their offense having relatively short fields all night it seemed. But I think the team handled that situation pretty well on the road overall.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9416 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 10:46 pm to
Two tough road games versus two neutral games that were essentially home games.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 4:58 am to
The team is young. 70 underclassmen and 21 in the 2 deep chart, 10 starters. They just don’t focus all the time. You have to get their attention.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 5:08 am to
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Stetson did not play well in either. That is the explanation


What?? He was 13-19 against UK.

Stetson didn’t play bad; he didn’t play his absolute best either.

He wasn’t the issue, UGA settled for 6 FGS in the Redzone those 2 games.. the problem was our OL couldn’t run block.
Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
2735 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 5:36 am to
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UGA settled for 6 FGS in the Redzone those 2 games.


This has happened in multiple games this year. This team can get to the opponents 15-20 yard line in 4-5 plays and someone pulls the e-brake. I don’t know if it’s the players, or if play calling gets changed drastically?
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11304 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 8:03 am to
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I don’t know if it’s the players, or if play calling gets changed drastically


Our run game isn’t as strong as last year.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:32 am to
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Our run game isn’t as strong as last year.

That couldn't be more wrong.

Why do you think that?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:45 am to
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quote:
Stetson did not play well in either. That is the explanation


What?? He was 13-19 against UK.

Stetson didn’t play bad; he didn’t play his absolute best either.

He wasn’t the issue, UGA settled for 6 FGS in the Redzone those 2 games.. the problem was our OL couldn’t run block.



The issue was Stetson (or execution in the passing game).
Our offense is #2 in the country in red zone opportunities. We drive the length of the field as well as anyone in the country (71. 1 attempt out of first).

Our offense is #3 in the country with redzone rushing TDs (30. 1 TD out of first).

Our offense is #16 in the country with redzone passing TDs (18. 10 TDs out of first).
Our offense is #69 in the country with redzone passing efficiency (161.90. 107.00 away from first).

We either hit those passes or we don't.
The coaches either trust us to hit those passes or they don't.

Stetson is still improving each week. Our weapons this season are different than last year (no true X). But it is on Stetson to find the endzone.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:55 am to
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Also, I am not unconvinced some of those struggles have been manufactured by Kirby


This is weird. A good coach preps his squad for adversion during the week. He uses in-game struggles as teachable moments. Few, if any, manufacture in-game struggles in a sport that is judging teams based upon performances for inclusion in it's postseason.

This sport is still subjective. And, believe it or not, Kirby is right when he has claimed that you don't have to manufacture struggle in this league. It will manifest itself at any moment, and usually when it is least expected.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11304 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:10 am to
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Why do you think that?


Zeus and Cook were better than Milton, McIntosh, and Edwards. It’s not even close.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:57 am to
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Zeus and Cook were better than Milton, McIntosh, and Edwards. It’s not even close.

Not in this offense.
Mcintosh: 709 yards rushing. 10 rushing TDs. 5.18 ypr (137 attempts).
449 yards receiving. 1 TD. 12.4 ypc (37 receptions.

Cook: 728 yards rushing. 7 TDs. 6.44 ypr (113 attempts).
284 yards receiving. 4 TDs. 10.52 ypc (27 receptions).



Edwards: 681 yards rushing. 7 TDs. 5.36 ypr (127 attempts).
80 yards receiving. 0 TDs. 7.27 ypc (11 receptions).

White: 856 yards rushing. 11 TDs. 5.35 ypr (160 attempts).
75 yards receiving. 0 TDs. 8.33 ypc (9 receptions).

Milton: 533 yards rushing. 6 TDs. 7.4 ypr (72 attempts).
64 yards receiving. 1 TD. 12.8 ypc (5 catches).

How do you define... "it's not even close"?
We have potentially 2 more games.
McIntosh is supremely more important to this offense than Cook.
Milton is as talented as both Cook and White.
Daijun allows us to be more multiple in our playcalling (zone vs power/counter).

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:36 am to
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This is weird. A good coach preps his squad for adversion during the week. He uses in-game struggles as teachable moments. Few, if any, manufacture in-game struggles in a sport that is judging teams based upon performances for inclusion in it's postseason.

This sport is still subjective. And, believe it or not, Kirby is right when he has claimed that you don't have to manufacture struggle in this league. It will manifest itself at any moment, and usually when it is least expected.



I don't agree with the concept of the coaching staff "manufacturing struggles".

I absolutely think our coaching staff is more focused on improvement over rolling through opponents.
Instead of calling the same 8 plays that ripped through Oregon and South Carolina, we focused on completely different gameplans against lesser opponents. We tried to be a more zone running team. We tried to be more of a RPO and less playaction team. We tried more downfield shots with our depleted personnel (find new threats).
Game reps is how we get better.
Repping 1s with new guards and tackles is how we build depth.

It is the same story on the defense (rotating different guys at safety, nickel, and dime... playing an offense straight up without sending pressures, etc..).

No. We aren't calling plays in an attempt to struggle. We aren't calling plays to allow an opponent success so we can get an arse chewing on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. But we are playing left handed so that when styles of fights matter, we are prepared. We know our limits and personnel. And we just shared a bunch of film to occupy the next 2 opponents so they can't just focus on those 8 original plays.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:44 am to
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meansonny


If the argument, thusly, becomes one of "the coaching staff rolls out different concepts and plays" with an eye for growth, sure.

You also, as you say, substitute at the levels at which Kirby substitutes to build future depth. Practice reps aren't game reps, no matter how hard anyone claims UGA practices.

I agree with the entirety of your post. That absolutely happens. But Kirby isn't going to Monken saying, "Hey, bruh...instead of running that shite that works, let's run some shite we know that will not work, so we can manufacture some of that there adversity so I can use it to teach these fools!"

That's just a weird take, and I'm not convinced that the OP meant it that way, but some cats certainly believe stuff like that happens.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:48 am to
I agree.

There is a lot of weird shite put out on message boards. The scary part is when people actually mean it (and aren't trolling for attention).
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:18 pm to
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There is a lot of weird shite put out on message boards.


I tend to believe that the ideas of some OPs are lost in the lack of available nuance one gets from text. That, and people have been conditioned to be combative because everything is a troll.

Like, I called the OPs post weird because I don't really believe that he believes that. But, how could I know? I wanted to call him a fricking retard, but there is the off-chance that his thinking is more in line with that of ours, it just translated poorly.

Like, if I posted everything that I've ever said to myself, in game, about Stetson Bennett's performance. What I say is shite like "STETSON YOU GODDAMN SAWED OFF WEAK ARMED PIECE OF shite! DANIELS IS 10 TIMES THE QB THAT YOU ARE!"

What I really mean is "Stetson, how dare you throw one incomplete pass even though you are completing passes at a higher rate of anyone in UGA history. Be better. Be perfect."

But NO ONE, here, would infer the latter from the former.

And I'd be a real [unt.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 7:12 pm to
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And I'd be a real [unt.


You would be? /s
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 7:25 pm to
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You would be? /s


Touche. I am a [unt. But, I'm fun at parties.

Or, I used to be.

I think.

Probably not.

Go Dawgs!

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