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re: THE SEC Championship game hurt us

Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4552 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:19 pm to
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We get to play 12-0 Bama.


Alabama was overrated this year. I think Oklahoma embarrasses them in the first round.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47642 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 6:27 pm to
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should we get rid of it?


Or we could finish the job next time we have a multiple score lead and there will be nothing to bitch about
Posted by JakeScott
Lake Lanier
Member since Oct 2015
695 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 11:38 pm to
No freaking way. It got us in last year. You couldn't have been in that stadium Saturday and not had a blast. It's a great event and heckuva atmosphere. GoDawgs
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39390 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:08 am to
Ou isn’t good at embarrassing weaker teams
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 8:45 am to
We lost to the wrong team this year. We were #4 on Saturday AM and would not have dropped if we were idle. Bama benefited from it last year. It just displays a major fault in the system. It irritates me that last year the talking heads were adamant about the best 4 teams and this year it was Conference Champs. Is what it is.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:12 am to
I guess we have to think of it as a benefit for playing in the SEC. I don’t think there are teams from any other conferences that would even be in a playoff conversation with two losses. If we didn’t lose to LSU, we'd be in. If we had finished business in the SECCG, we’d be in. We should just lick our wounds and FRICKIN’ FINISH A FRICKIN’ GAME AGAINST FRICKIN’ BAMA.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:32 am to
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We lost to the wrong team this year. We were #4 on Saturday AM and would not have dropped if we were idle. Bama benefited from it last year. It just displays a major fault in the system. It irritates me that last year the talking heads were adamant about the best 4 teams and this year it was Conference Champs. Is what it is.



Yeah. I am not heartbroken about being left out.

But I am bothered by the blatant hypocrisy and lies.
"Last season and 2011, it was about the 2 best teams.
This season and 2007, the CCG matters."

"If Bama loses to #4,they still are a top 4 team".
"If UGA loses to #1, they can't be in the playoffs"
Do the losses matter or not?

"UGA played an awful game against LSU"
Well... Oklahoma played an awful home game against Army. Notre Dame had awful games. Why is "awful" so subjective?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39390 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:08 am to
Wins and losses matter. That’s why Kirby can’t continue having his annual blowout loss. We are in for sure if we are 12-1.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39390 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:10 am to
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2007, the CCG matters."


We had zero argument to go over the sec champ.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:45 am to
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We had zero argument to go over the sec champ.

We have a different definition of zero.

LSU lost to a 5 loss Arkansas the week before the SECCG.
LSU lost to a 5 loss Kentucky team.
LSU went 4-2 on the back half of their schedule.

UGA lost to a 6 loss South Carolina (lost all of their last 5 games. Won 6 out of their first 7 games).
UGA lost to a 4 loss Tennessee.
Georgia went 6-0 to finish the back half of the schedule.

We were ranked #4 by the BCS formula the week before the CCGs. LSU was #7.
LSU beats Tenn in the CCG because of an unforced fumbled snap by Tennessee on their own 20. LSU jumps to #2 and UGA drops to #5.

You can't argue Bama in 2017 moving up while idle.
Or Notre Dame in 2018 remaining in the top 4 with no CCG.
Not without hypocrisy to UGA in 2007.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Wins and losses matter. That’s why Kirby can’t continue having his annual blowout loss. We are in for sure if we are 12-1.


There are 2 problems.
1) the playoff committee charters itself to find the 4 best teams. They do so sometimes. They have other requirements other times.
It is what it is. I prefer teams to win their way in. I get it. I understand Bama outside the CCG on a technicality and getting a chance to play in 2017. I don't understand the talking heads saying a loss in the CCG doesn't matter because they are a top 4 team (see the hypocrisy).

2) the playoff committee is killing themselves by taking losses into account. All that does is prop up poor scheduling (can't lose if you don't get beat up during the season). And programs will gladly prescribe to poor scheduling if it means entry to the playoffs.
It always has to be about stacking wins and rewarding the best resume'. Anything else will cheapen the schedules, cheapen the playoffs, and cheapen the sport.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74894 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:53 am to
Their job has become to produce the 4 teams that you can build the case for with the least resistance.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:55 pm to
I actually agree. I think conference championships should go away. The SEC title game will be an entry level playoff game for the foreseeable future. No other conference has this argument. The committee thought UGA was the #4 team at the end of the regular season. Why are we judging them based on a game that doesn’t apply to everyone, I.e Notre Dame. It makes zero sense. The traditionalist will argue against it, but to penalize Georgia was unfair IMO. The committee chose politics over the 4 best teams.

Don’t worry, I have a feeling this same argument will come up next year and the year after that. Let’s just hope we’re on the other side of that argument.
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Their job has become to produce the 4 teams that you can build the case for with the least resistance.


Well said
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 1:04 pm to
Pitt
Texas
idle
Alabama

Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 2:02 pm to
The main reason we weren’t taken is because the ratings would be lower on A Semi-Final Rematch of Bama vs. Georgia.

Our resume is more impressive than Oklahoma’s — in the history of this sport no team with a defense so porous statically has ever won a National title.

Bottom line: The Heisman trophy winner (Kyler Murray) v. Bama’s Alleged Greatest Team Ever will draw more ratings than an SEC Chanpioship Re-match.

It’s money and what’s most appealing.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39390 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:46 pm to
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We have a different definition of zero.

LSU lost to a 5 loss Arkansas the week before the SECCG.
LSU lost to a 5 loss Kentucky team.
LSU went 4-2 on the back half of their schedule.

UGA lost to a 6 loss South Carolina (lost all of their last 5 games. Won 6 out of their first 7 games).
UGA lost to a 4 loss Tennessee.
Georgia went 6-0 to finish the back half of the schedule.

We were ranked #4 by the BCS formula the week before the CCGs. LSU was #7.
LSU beats Tenn in the CCG because of an unforced fumbled snap by Tennessee on their own 20. LSU jumps to #2 and UGA drops to #5.


Ok, let me clarify: We had zero GOOD argument to go over the SEC champ in 2007.
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