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Whiznot
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The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
We are going to learn the degree of risk associated with both outdoor and indoor crowds.

Early testing in Minnesota suggests that outdoor gatherings aren't very risky. Mobile testing sites were established after the protests in Minneapolis. So far only 1.8% of the 3,200 tests have been positive for infection. The Lake of the Ozarks parties also failed to produce an infection spike. I don't think healthy people have much to fear from attending a football game.

To date, there haven't been any large indoor crowds. Trump's rally tonight will be the first test case. Most experts expect that gathering to produce an infection spike. In several weeks we should know the effect.


deeprig9
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
You are more likely to be murdered on the streets of Minneapolis than die of Coronavirus there.
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deeprig9
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
There have been large indoor crowds, many cruise ships early on. Little floating biolabs. The news was encouraging, which is why you stopped hearing about cruise ship numbers and studies in early March.


FinleyStreet
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
I listened to "the Daily" podcast this week regarding updates on CV19. Few highlights from the physician on the show:

A. Latest data suggests 1/3 of the population is asymptomatic

B. Even if you have the Covid antibodies you may still not be immune to it. Even if you are immune, how long you remain immune is unknown.

C. They studied eight different pandemics from the last two hundred years or so and in each of them there was a much more serious second wave.

D. Droplets can have an "aerosol" quality which means it can be spread in close proximity even if someone is just talking to you (not sneezing or coughing). Hence, the six foot rule. Also, these aerosol components can hang in the air for a while so being indoors with others is still concerning even if you're respecting social distancing rules because there isn't any wind to sweep away the particulate matter.


BeefDawg
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
The Lefty narrative going around right now is that an indoor rally is somehow 1000x worse than this:



Which is yet again another bull shite pile of double-standard hypocrisy and dishonesty from the Left. As it always is.

frick you dishonest assclowns.
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deeprig9
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
So just like the flu. You can catch it every year, sometimes twice in the same season, even with vaccines, and tens of thousands die, including kids, but we don't shut down a damn thing.


AlaCowboy
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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You are more likely to be murdered on the streets of Minneapolis than die of Coronavirus there.


Or get shot and die in the "No Cops" zone in Seattle because the rioters/protesters blocked the police and ambulance from reaching the two blacks that got shot in there.


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GurleyGirl
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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So just like the flu. You can catch it every year, sometimes twice in the same season, even with vaccines, and tens of thousands die, including kids, but we don't shut down a damn thing.




And this will become the new narrative AFTER the Democrats get complete control of Congress and the Presidency. Of course they will say that the findings are based on NEW data and then if a Republican by some miracle does win the White House again, then there will be yet again NEW data suggesting that quarantine is again necessary. This is how you can roll when you control every form of media/communication.
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FinleyStreet
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
I'm just sharing information based on one source of info - not trying to draw conclusions or start a political debate.


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Griffindawg
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
First they said 23 Clemson players have covid19 and no symptoms.
Now they’re saying an unknown number of LSU players have been quarantined for testing positive.
Wow what a coincidence the two teams that played for the national championship this January that are the freshest on the brain are now “testing positive“ and stopping practice as soon as it started.


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dawgfan24348
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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So just like the flu.

Coronavirus has no vaccine currently and has a higher mortality rate. Also we know way more about the flu. Thanks for playing


SneakyWaff1es
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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has a higher mortality rate.
Does it tho? Does it really?


GurleyGirl
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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has a higher mortality rate.
Does it tho? Does it really?


The only reason Covid-19 has a higher mortality rate is that the average age of the people who have died from it is about 80 and that age group has a higher normal death rate than the virus. In sharp contrast, the average age of those who died from H1V1 was 40 and over 1800 children died from the Swine Flu yet there we no widespread school closures. Meanwhile, I just looked at the latest CDC data and 26 children 14 and younger have died from Covid-19.


dawgfan24348
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Cumming, Georgia
Member since Oct 2011
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
Swine Flu pandemic lasted 19 months and killed 285,000

Corvid 19 has lasted 6 months and has killed 460,000

You're right they are very different


Lucius Clay
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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Most experts expect that gathering to produce an infection spike.


Maybe not. His predictions of a packed house and overflow crowd didn't pan out.

Of course, considering how much Trump downplayed COVID-19, why require attendees to sign a waiver protecting the campaign from responsibility for any illness? I mean, this has all been a left wing conspiracy, right?


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FooManChoo
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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Swine Flu pandemic lasted 19 months and killed 285,000

Corvid 19 has lasted 6 months and has killed 460,000

You're right they are very different
The media coverage is very different, too. 285,000 killed and hardly a squeak from the MSM under Obama's watch. Why do you think that is? Is 285,000 not significant?

IRTT: Spikes in cases aren't concerning. The whole point of "flattening the curve" was not to prevent people from getting the virus but to spread it out so that hospitals weren't overwhelmed.

As soon as hospitals start running out of space, supplies, and personnel to care for the sick, let me know. Otherwise we are witnessing a scheme to affect the election in favor of a man who likely doesn't know what day of the week it is.


Whiznot
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Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
Swine flu hardly registered with me. It just wasn't a big deal.

CDC - US Swine flu deaths - 12,469 total.

Johns Hopkins - US COVID-19 deaths - 120,044 and counting.

Our country suffered less than 5% of the world's swine flu fatalities. We are suffering over 25% of the world's COVID-19 fatalities.

During the swine flue epidemic Americans were dying at a rate of less than 700 per month. COVID-19 is killing 20,000 Americans monthly.

What idiot downvotes reality?
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S1C EM
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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C. They studied eight different pandemics from the last two hundred years or so and in each of them there was a much more serious second wave.


So did they miss SARS-CoV-1? Pretty sure it had a long tail and not a second wave.


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FooManChoo
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re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
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Swine flu hardly registered with me. It just wasn't a big deal.
Could it be that it didn’t register because no one was making a big deal about it, even in the media?

Also, I think you are missing the point. We were talking lockdowns long before we had thousands dead.

We also didn’t have a push to classify all deaths as due to swine flu even when that wasn’t the reason for the death like we do/did for coronavirus.

We have tens of thousands of flu-related deaths each and every year and there has never been a response to the flu like we have had to this virus even though most of the deaths are from a subset of our population and many of those are due to terrible decisions in leftist northeastern states that decided to put the sick in assisted living homes where risk of death was greater for everyone else.


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
40028 posts

re: The positive benefits of protests and indoor political rallies.
I was thinking about this today. Would I ever have known this existed?

I know 1 person with an extended family member who died from it.

Of the hundred people I know, and the hundred people they know, I know of one death.

1 in 10,000.

I know my sphere is a small sample size.

But the larger broader numbers are showing the same.

Such a crock of shite.



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