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re: The catch not catch in 4th

Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:36 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:36 am to
With his hand above the ball, effectively palming it, it appeared to give the look of "control" as he was going down, when it was really his hand just on top of the ball as they both descended to the ground at the same rate.

To me it wasn't dissimilar to the ball moving forward against the body of the Auburn QB at the goal line, even though it was loose between his arms and moving forward uncontrolled due to momentum.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 11:48 am to
Gotcha.

That view isn’t one I’m talking about. Stadium view looked straight toward him from Florida end zone between his arms.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61964 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 1:42 pm to
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The ground can't cause the fumble.


I agree but the ball was moving before he hit the ground. Watch the nose of the football away from his hand and it was moving before he came down on the ground. I am more certain of the fumble than I am of the catch/no catch.
In the long run, it really doesn't matter. The calls were made and the calls were upheld. Case closed.
Posted by BillysIsland
Member since Aug 2025
1308 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:08 pm to
I think it went forearm to forearm.

That picture doesn't show the ball hitting the ground that I can decipher
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 2:39 pm to
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That picture doesn't show the ball hitting the ground that I can decipher


Looks like the ball is almost completely on the turf to me. ESPN just wanted to create negative controversy around another Georgia victory.

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This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:02 pm to
Shows the ball rotated clockwise on the turf between his hands.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4702 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Shows the ball rotated clockwise on the turf between his hands.


Yeah, anybody who watches that video and says it's a catch is either a liar or blind. I put Jordan Rogers in the former category.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16346 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:09 pm to
Rogers is a jackal, I would just as well have Hunter Biden as an announcer than that douche nozzle.
Posted by HunterDawg
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 3:20 pm to
The ball way hit the ground and bounced. IP.
Posted by HunterDawg
Member since Oct 2024
687 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:51 am to
I really don't understand the controversy. Seeing it real time and on several replays, as well as different photo angles, it's readily apparent that the ball hit the ground. Not even close.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:01 am to
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I really don't understand the controversy. Seeing it real time and on several replays, as well as different photo angles, it's readily apparent that the ball hit the ground. Not even close.


You've answered your own question. It's a manufactured controversy promoted by the TV announcers to suggest that SEC officials are helping UGA win games, just like what happened in the Auburn game. Sean McDonough (Auburn game) and Jordan Rogers (Florida game) went on and on and on about calls helping Georgia, even where there was no video to back up their claims. Even when the replay booth upheld the calls. That's favoritism by the announcing crew and it's not uncommon. Not sure about McDonough but this is nothing new for Jordan Rogers.

When it comes to propaganda, the most frequent tactic is to use "experts" or "unbiased observers" to frame the argument. That makes it harder to question the objectivity and accuracy of their statements. Media personalities embrace that image of objectivity and expertise, but they're just run of the mill propagandists. And of course the fans don't care about evidence; they'll take that "objective expert opinion" and run with it as fact, as long as it suits their purposes. That's also why you have lots of posters on SEC rant posting with no team logo or being disingenuous about their team. They can troll their rivals without being accused of fan bias; they're "objective".
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by agentoranj1990
Mableton
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:03 am to
I thought it was too close to call and that's what the replay guys saw too and decided to let the call stand.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:10 am to
It was close enough that no matter which way it was called, there's not enough video evidence to overturn.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4702 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:13 am to
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I thought it was too close to call


It wasn't too close to call. The video in this thread was conclusive that the ball hit the ground.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1337 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:41 am to
I thought the "rules expert" said there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4702 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 10:50 am to
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I thought the "rules expert" said there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call?


There was conclusive evidence that the call was correct and the ball hit the turf.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19616 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:01 am to
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You've answered your own question. It's a manufactured controversy promoted by the TV announcers to suggest that SEC officials are helping UGA win games,


I don’t think it’s that.

Throughout that whole game Roger’s was trying to stir up drama. I think it’s the booth trying to add excitement that the call could be reversed and there was a chance at last minute heroics.

But alas…it wasn’t meant to be. Sorry Jordan.

The real drama here was FL missing yet another wide open receiver behind our coverage.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 11:03 am
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:05 am to
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Throughout that whole game Roger’s was trying to stir up drama. I think it’s the booth trying to add excitement


I'm not giving Jordan Rogers any benefit of the doubt regarding his intent. In my opinion based on listening to him over time, he dislikes Georgia and always has. In this case he was disagreeing with the video and the review officials to insist it was a bad call. He was clearly wrong and that goes beyond drama, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 11:07 am
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:47 am to
We’re fortunate it wasn’t called a completion in the field. There’s nothing “conclusive” caught on camera. I think, especially from the end zone view, it sure appears to have touched the ground but I don’t think they would’ve changed it to incomplete based on that view.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4702 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:22 pm to
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We’re fortunate it wasn’t called a completion in the field. There’s nothing “conclusive” caught on camera.


The view in the video above is conclusive. The ball hit the ground and bounced. If there was any doubt from that view alone (I don't have any doubt) they could look at that in conjunction with the view from the front and see that his hands and arms were clearly separated when the ball arrived.

If any part of the ball touches the ground before the receiver controls it, it's an incomplete pass. The ball hit the ground between his hands and arms and bounced into his chest where he secured it. That's incomplete.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 12:32 pm
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