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re: So Tony Stewart ran over and killed another driver at a race last night
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:01 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:01 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
I saw an article yesterday suggesting that the wing on the right side the car actually knocking Ward into the rear tire of Tony's car. I am not a Sprint Car driver but a racing fan and have been watching for years, these cars react quicker to the throttle in terms of direction than the steering wheel. Watching the video I think Tony tried to avoid an impact not spray him with dirt, hit him or scare him. Again my opinion.
I do not believe that Tony wrecked Ward in the beginning either. It looks to me that Ward did go high racing hard and got over the cushion at the top of the track and lost control. Does Tony race hard? Yes. He knows one way to race. WFO. I am not a Tony Stewart fan personally but I do think he is a hell of a driver. He goes to these short tracks to promote Sprint Car racing because he loves it.
This is a tragedy for everyone involved. But the fact remains he should not have gotten out of his car until track officials were there, and walked into the path of oncoming racecars.
I do not believe that Tony wrecked Ward in the beginning either. It looks to me that Ward did go high racing hard and got over the cushion at the top of the track and lost control. Does Tony race hard? Yes. He knows one way to race. WFO. I am not a Tony Stewart fan personally but I do think he is a hell of a driver. He goes to these short tracks to promote Sprint Car racing because he loves it.
This is a tragedy for everyone involved. But the fact remains he should not have gotten out of his car until track officials were there, and walked into the path of oncoming racecars.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 3:03 pm
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:19 pm to BeefDawg
This is ridiculous and, most likely, pointless trying to communicate with you.
You either have poor reading comprehension skills and don’t understand what I’m saying, or you’re dishonest. Either way, the result is that I have to spend half the time here pointing out to you what I’ve ALREADY said a hundred times.
Go back and read my post. It’s not about what happens after Ward is hit. I'm clearly talking about what Stewart’s car does BEFORE he strikes Ward.
From the time Stewart's car enters the frame and to when it strikes Ward, in a very short distance, he's moved up the track and towards the right. Towards Ward.
Up and to the right............
No it's not.
The front wheel could be lower because...................wait for it.......................HE GUNNED IT BEFORE HE GOT TO WARD, IT GOT AWAY FROM HIM, AND THE BACK WHEELS SLIDE OUT TO THE RIGHT ----- AS EVERYONE HAS EXPLAINED A THOUSAND TIMES.
Jfc.
And also, for the thousandth fricking time..............Nobody is saying that Stewart targeted Ward. That he gunned it or steered it or anything to try and run over him. Don't ever say that shite in here again, please. You're wasting everyone's time. Thanks.
Yawn........this is getting fricking old.......
Watch the go-pro video I linked. If the driver steers left at caution speeds the rear end doesn't "drift" right. Instead the car turns efficiently in the direction the steering wheel is turned.
The rear-end "drifts" to the right ONLY if he guns the engine!!! And while this isn't a joking matter, it is hilarious here is that the reasons you give trying to prove your view actually prove that he accelerated by gunning the engine. WHich you say he did not do.
wow. Nice work.
You either have poor reading comprehension skills and don’t understand what I’m saying, or you’re dishonest. Either way, the result is that I have to spend half the time here pointing out to you what I’ve ALREADY said a hundred times.
Go back and read my post. It’s not about what happens after Ward is hit. I'm clearly talking about what Stewart’s car does BEFORE he strikes Ward.
From the time Stewart's car enters the frame and to when it strikes Ward, in a very short distance, he's moved up the track and towards the right. Towards Ward.
Up and to the right............
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If you pause the frame exactly at the spot where Ward disappears behind Tony's car, you can clearly see that Tony's front left wheel is LOWER on the track than his back left wheel. And the ONLY way this happens, is if he turns the wheel left first.
No it's not. The front wheel could be lower because...................wait for it.......................HE GUNNED IT BEFORE HE GOT TO WARD, IT GOT AWAY FROM HIM, AND THE BACK WHEELS SLIDE OUT TO THE RIGHT ----- AS EVERYONE HAS EXPLAINED A THOUSAND TIMES.
Jfc.
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If he was trying to move UP the track, he wouldn't have entered a drift to do it. If he were targeting Ward, he would have just gone right at him by turning the wheel to the right.
And also, for the thousandth fricking time..............Nobody is saying that Stewart targeted Ward. That he gunned it or steered it or anything to try and run over him. Don't ever say that shite in here again, please. You're wasting everyone's time. Thanks.
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His front wheel is lower than his rear wheel, clearly proving he turned left, and because of how these cars and tracks work, his rearend went into a drift.
Yawn........this is getting fricking old.......
Watch the go-pro video I linked. If the driver steers left at caution speeds the rear end doesn't "drift" right. Instead the car turns efficiently in the direction the steering wheel is turned.
The rear-end "drifts" to the right ONLY if he guns the engine!!! And while this isn't a joking matter, it is hilarious here is that the reasons you give trying to prove your view actually prove that he accelerated by gunning the engine. WHich you say he did not do.
wow. Nice work.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:29 pm to bbqdawg
bbqdawg, Do you make anything out of how long it took Stewart's car to come to a stop?
I mean, if he was trying his best to avoid hitting Ward, it would seem like maybe he would have slammed on the breaks after contact and stopped immediately. Maybe even have gotten out to try and help or to start explaining to everyone there what an accident it was.
Instead though, he rolled all the way down to the start of Turn 3. And just sat there.
Obviously, this point doesn't provide any conclusive proof either way, but does your gut tell you anything here? What do you think you would you do if you were in Stewart's car after realizing you'd just ran over someone?
I mean, if he was trying his best to avoid hitting Ward, it would seem like maybe he would have slammed on the breaks after contact and stopped immediately. Maybe even have gotten out to try and help or to start explaining to everyone there what an accident it was.
Instead though, he rolled all the way down to the start of Turn 3. And just sat there.
Obviously, this point doesn't provide any conclusive proof either way, but does your gut tell you anything here? What do you think you would you do if you were in Stewart's car after realizing you'd just ran over someone?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:48 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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bbqdawg, Do you make anything out of how long it took Stewart's car to come to a stop?
I don't know why he stopped. Did they throw the red flag after the officials saw the accident with Ward? If so then the cars are suppose to stop where they are. He may have realized something happened but didn't know what for sure happened.
I'm sure TS didn't go have beers while the medics worked with Ward. He probably stayed away and let them work. He did the same thing all the other drives did when Earnhardt crashed. They stayed away and hoped it wasn't serious.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:12 pm to bbqdawg
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He may have realized something happened but didn't know what for sure happened.
But, look at how close the driver is to the rear wheels in these Sprint cars. It's gruesome to think about, but Stewart's face was a mere inches from Ward right before he was sucked under the right rear tire and ran over.........There's no way he didn't know how serious it was. Immediately.
ALso, the Earnhardt fatality is a totally different thing because it was an in car crash, right?. Even still though...... I don't remember who it was, but one of the drivers involved in the crash with Senior got out of his car and was the first one to get to Dale. As soon as he looked inside the car, he started waving his arms in a panic for the medics because he could see how serious it was.
Again, this doesn't prove anything. But, if the excuse is that Stewart didn't see Ward until it was too late, why was there no normal reaction to slam on the brakes afterwards? Seems weird to me.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:17 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Tony Stewart should be barred from racing forever.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:37 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Jefferson Dawg
Ugh, I show you pictures and you just start making shite up. Assumptions and opinion are not fact, except in your bizzaro world it seems.
Yeah, you're not biased at all. No witch hunt. No agenda.
Whatever dude. You're frickin wack. I've made my point well enough.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 5:49 pm to BeefDawg
This is basically a redneck JFK conspiracy.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:05 pm to deeprig9
With a Zapruder film and everything! I'm really curious about the other video authorities have. Can you imagine the shitstorm if that angle shows Stewart flipping the kid the bird or pointing and reacting to him before Ward is hit by the car?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:12 pm to djrichiep
I saw a puff of smoke in the infield when tony's tire cuts right but it could have just been a camera anomoly or lense flare. Was the car inspected?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:14 pm to deeprig9
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This is basically a redneck JFK conspiracy.
I have hit the lock thread button more times than I can count and nothing happens?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:16 pm to deeprig9
Just ran a background check on Ward through Lexis Nexis. No data, like he never existed. Apparently the only history and background we'll ever know about him is what the goverment types up on wikipedia.
This is bigger than we thought.
This is bigger than we thought.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:18 pm to UGAporkchop
bout time to let this post die....
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:28 pm to deeprig9
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This is bigger than we thought
Great.
Here comes the tired and predictable regurgitation to spoil another thread.........Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:28 pm to NytroBud
yeah i just requested it to be anchored
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:29 pm to NytroBud
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bout time to let this post die....
Nobody is forcing you to read it.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:30 pm to K9
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yeah i just requested it to be anchored
fricking pussy.....
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:38 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Guess we need a fricking Nascar thread now...what do you think Jeff??
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:38 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Exactly 51 years ago to the day, the CIA released a report to the president in the aftermath of the cuban missile crisis outlining plans to back a Nicaraugran led guerilla campaign to fight the russians in a proxy war in cuba.
Volume 11 doc 357 referencing the "samoza" plan, written by Desmond Fitzgerald the chief of "special affairs" for the CIA in 1963, to one certain man McGeorge Bundy, the president's "special assistant" for national security affairs.
Volume 11 doc 357 referencing the "samoza" plan, written by Desmond Fitzgerald the chief of "special affairs" for the CIA in 1963, to one certain man McGeorge Bundy, the president's "special assistant" for national security affairs.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:46 pm to NytroBud
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Guess we need a fricking Nascar thread now...what do you think Jeff??
Why are you people that have nothing to add bothering to come into this thread?
You don't see me in the gay "Someone make Richt look like the boogie-man" threads, do you?
Go on......Get!
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