Started By
Message

SBIV excuses.

Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:09 am
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2282 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:09 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:32 am to
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:36 am to
This is a weird obsession for folks. and specifically to this meme, while he finally beat Bama, he certainly didn't win the game "by himself"...the same way the defense didn't win the game. It was a collective effort. and I don't think anyone expects him to get drafted. But carry on I guess
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:02 am to
quote:

he certainly didn't win the game "by himself".


But that's the dumbest argument anyone could make, too, isn't it?

What QB has won a title by himself? Nobody can win a title by themselves. To even present that as an argument is like saying "Bennett is not a good QB because he can't fly!" Well. Duh.

quote:

.the same way the defense didn't win the game. It was a collective effort.
But that was an argument some made, nonetheless.

quote:

and I don't think anyone expects him to get drafted.
Again an argument that some made. As you said, nobody made the argument or expects it.

Case Keenum
Timmy Chang
Landry Jones
Graham Harrel
Ty Detmer
Kellen Moore
Baker Mayfield
Luke Falk
Colt Brennan
Rakeem Cato

This is a list of the top 10 passing leaders in college football all time.
Except for a couple I have never heard of any of them.

Statistics or NFL success means very little for a college QB. But those are the type arguments some people on this board want to use.

"He (Stetson Benentt) will never play in the NFL!" is a common argument.

Who cares?


Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6123 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:08 am to
Holy shite stop making threads about this.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24573 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:15 am to
quote:

What QB has won a title by himself?


It’s not like tua caught the ball that he threw, the receiver was needed to actually catch it, but my grandma could have wheeled out there and got the 2nd and 26 dime. I would say that pass right there won Bama the natty especially since Hurts wasn’t getting it done
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:54 am to
quote:

This is a weird obsession for folks.

I second this. It's bizarre. Very few people on this board were unfair to Bennett or were on the "it's wrong for CKS to start him" or "I demand CKS start JT" train, etc. Most people just thought JT was the more talented QB. I don't understand why that's so controversial and triggering to a select few here. Folks on the GSB routinely debate the comparative talent of other players, without any controversy. My only guess is that some of these folks see Bennett as their vicarious personal avatar, so any criticism of him is criticism of them.
Posted by Dawgs9
Where ever I am
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:58 am to
Let’s continue to beat this dead horse
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

It’s not like tua caught the ball that he threw, the receiver was needed to actually catch it, but my grandma could have wheeled out there and got the 2nd and 26 dime. I would say that pass right there won Bama the natty especially since Hurts wasn’t getting it done




I would also argue that their defense having 2 Ints helped a bit. So yes, Tua had lots of help.
I mean, Tua only had 166 yards passing in that game.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Very few people on this board were unfair to Bennett or were on the "it's wrong for CKS to start him"


Well, this isn't true at all. I guess it depends on which point of view you take. If they agreed with your point of view then it wasn't so bad. If it was contrary to your point of view it was horrible.

I tried to stay in the center (check my posts) and it was really, really bad.

quote:

Most people just thought JT was the more talented QB.
And if it been contained to a few threads....ok. But it went on for 10-12 weeks or more.
It went back as far as the Florida game for sure, and I think before then, but I am not sure.

I thought Daniels was the better answer, but the crap that got spewed on here?


You are tired of it after 2 weeks. Can you imagine what it was like for 10-12 weeks?

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63876 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

I second this. It's bizarre. Very few people on this board were unfair to Bennett or were on the "it's wrong for CKS to start him" or "I demand CKS start JT" train, etc. Most people just thought JT was the more talented QB. I don't understand why that's so controversial and triggering to a select few here. Folks on the GSB routinely debate the comparative talent of other players, without any controversy. My only guess is that some of these folks see Bennett as their vicarious personal avatar, so any criticism of him is criticism of them.



This is 100% pure grade A bullshite. Typical left wing scum liar.

2016 - 'The election was rigged! Conspiracy! Russia!"

2020 - 'Anyone who questions the election is a domestic terrorist!'

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63876 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I second this. It's bizarre. Very few people on this board were unfair to Bennett or were on the "it's wrong for CKS to start him" or "I demand CKS start JT" train, etc. Most people just thought JT was the more talented QB. I don't understand why that's so controversial and triggering to a select few here. Folks on the GSB routinely debate the comparative talent of other players, without any controversy. My only guess is that some of these folks see Bennett as their vicarious personal avatar, so any criticism of him is criticism of them.



Let me remind you what really happened.



Season is starting, everyone is excited about JT Daniels. There is no division. Nobody is quietly hoping for him to fail.

Very early in the season, news comes out about some shoulder strain lat strain etc, and Stetson has to come in. We all sighed just a little bit, even those who won't admit it, but we weren't panicked yet because it's not like JT tore his ACL or something, seemed to just need some rest. At least that's what the information coming out at the time suggested.

As the season progressed, something funny happened. This wasn't the Stetson Bennett of 2020, this was some kind of new and improved Stetson Bennett. He was lighting it up. This is when the JT Nation started to really squirm. And I mean squirm, like they had diarrhea cramps in their brains. I saw it here, I saw it on TalknDawgs. The JT Nation became afraid that Stetson may have supplanted their savior. This is when the fissure in the fanbase happened.

The other side (what you might call "Stet Nation") had nothing to be afraid of, the other side saw Stetson was clearly a better QB than what we'd seen the previous year. We let go of our anxiety and began to accept the reality we were seeing in front of our faces every Saturday, we accepted that it seemed Stetson had come off the bench and won the starting job. We accepted that win or lose, the coaches know 1000x more than we know, and combined with the fact he was putting up great numbers and beating the shite out of our opponents, we Stetters were feeling pretty good about this. We Stetters felt pretty good about having JT around too, because some tiny piece of emotion inside of us still remembered 2020 Stetson, so we were happy as hell to have JT ready to go, should it come down to that.

As the JT Nation saw the same thing happening, they couldn't handle it. They said things like - Kirby is a great recruiter but he can't manage a QB room. Only elite QB's can beat Bama. We'll never win with Stet, which means we'll never win with Kirby. Kirby fricked up Fields, Kirby fricked up Eason, now he's going to frick up JT Savior. Kirby has peaked, we might need to move on. Football has changed, but Kirby is still stuck in 2010. Stetson is too short, there are no NFL QB's as short as him. He can't throw the long ball. His passes get batted down. He is a one-read QB. He can't work a zone, only man coverage. He's not good enough to get us where we want to go. Why can't Kirby understand this? We are wasting another year because Kirby is a moron. What elite QB would ever want to come here after what Kirby does with QB's? This may be the beginning of the end for UGA under Kirby and with jack shite to show for it.


The JT Nation were full of anxiety and hatred and vitriol.

This is when they were given a new moniker- the cünt nation.

It was beyond having a difference of opinion about who the starter should be. It was the fact Stet was doing great but they still wanted him benched. Stet was doing great, but Kirby was still an old fashioned moron. Stet was doing great, we were still winning games handily, but it was all going to be a waste because Kirby was too stubborn. Kirby only wants to play small town Georgia boys at the expense of the program. We all know what's happening, they said.

And then the SEC Championship Game happened.

Everyone on the team, offense and defense, had a shitty game that day. The JT Nation used this potentially tragic loss to once again raise the cünt nation flag to the top of the highest flagpole and repeat every single one of their previous talking points but this time, with I told you so's.

A month later, Stet led UGA to our first national championship since 1980, and the cünt nation still flies their flag.

Damn right I'm going to mock them. Scum. Troglodyte. Diseased. Wretched. Filthy. Skulls full of dusty cat turds.

Posted by SCDawg95
Fayetteville ,NC
Member since Oct 2019
5631 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:21 pm to
Jesus he and this team won a national championship can we just be happy? shite people
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Let me remind you what really happened. Season is starting, everyone is excited about JT Daniels. There is no division. Nobody is quietly hoping for him to fail. Very early in the season, news comes out about some shoulder strain lat strain etc, and Stetson has to come in. We all sighed just a little bit, even those who won't admit it, but we weren't panicked yet because it's not like JT tore his ACL or something, seemed to just need some rest. At least that's what the information coming out at the time suggested. As the season progressed, something funny happened. This wasn't the Stetson Bennett of 2020, this was some kind of new and improved Stetson Bennett. He was lighting it up. This is when the JT Nation started to really squirm. And I mean squirm, like they had diarrhea cramps in their brains. I saw it here, I saw it on TalknDawgs. The JT Nation became afraid that Stetson may have supplanted their savior. This is when the fissure in the fanbase happened. The other side (what you might call "Stet Nation") had nothing to be afraid of, the other side saw Stetson was clearly a better QB than what we'd seen the previous year. We let go of our anxiety and began to accept the reality we were seeing in front of our faces every Saturday, we accepted that it seemed Stetson had come off the bench and won the starting job. We accepted that win or lose, the coaches know 1000x more than we know, and combined with the fact he was putting up great numbers and beating the shite out of our opponents, we Stetters were feeling pretty good about this. We Stetters felt pretty good about having JT around too, because some tiny piece of emotion inside of us still remembered 2020 Stetson, so we were happy as hell to have JT ready to go, should it come down to that. As the JT Nation saw the same thing happening, they couldn't handle it. They said things like - Kirby is a great recruiter but he can't manage a QB room. Only elite QB's can beat Bama. We'll never win with Stet, which means we'll never win with Kirby. Kirby fricked up Fields, Kirby fricked up Eason, now he's going to frick up JT Savior. Kirby has peaked, we might need to move on. Football has changed, but Kirby is still stuck in 2010. Stetson is too short, there are no NFL QB's as short as him. He can't throw the long ball. His passes get batted down. He is a one-read QB. He can't work a zone, only man coverage. He's not good enough to get us where we want to go. Why can't Kirby understand this? We are wasting another year because Kirby is a moron. What elite QB would ever want to come here after what Kirby does with QB's? This may be the beginning of the end for UGA under Kirby and with jack shite to show for it. The JT Nation were full of anxiety and hatred and vitriol. This is when they were given a new moniker- the cünt nation. It was beyond having a difference of opinion about who the starter should be. It was the fact Stet was doing great but they still wanted him benched. Stet was doing great, but Kirby was still an old fashioned moron. Stet was doing great, we were still winning games handily, but it was all going to be a waste because Kirby was too stubborn. Kirby only wants to play small town Georgia boys at the expense of the program. We all know what's happening, they said. And then the SEC Championship Game happened. Everyone on the team, offense and defense, had a shitty game that day. The JT Nation used this potentially tragic loss to once again raise the cünt nation flag to the top of the highest flagpole and repeat every single one of their previous talking points but this time, with I told you so's. A month later, Stet led UGA to our first national championship since 1980, and the cünt nation still flies their flag. Damn right I'm going to mock them. Scum. Troglodyte. Diseased. Wretched. Filthy. Skulls full of dusty cat turds.


Praise Allah
Posted by Dawgs9
Where ever I am
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:55 pm to
And you are 100% dead on
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

deeprig9


barely any of that is true lol

I was a JT guy for most of the season. I was basing that on what we saw from 2020, the most recent data we had. In 2020 it wasn't even a comparison that JT was far and away the better QB.

So for the first half of 2021, we (UGA fans..) were all glad that stetson was balling out and doing well btu still ready for JT to get back. I think Jacksonville was espeically troubling since UF was at that time the best team we'd faced since arkansas (where he went 7 of 11 for 72 yards), and he again looked pretty mediocre going 10/19 for 161 yards 1 TD 2 INT. The defense was directly responsible for 3 of our TDs. At this point, the fanbase wondering if/when we'll get JT back is a legitimate question that isn't deserving of ridicule.

We breeze through the rest of our schedule against far overmatched teams and finally get to THE big test. The one we've known we'd have all year. Not only is stetson not very good, our elite defense is awful. It was a bad day all around for all phases pretty much. Again, people wondering if steton has the ability to get it done are not wrong in the slightest, considering what we're watching on the field.

We play an overmatched michigan team that we knew all along we'd destroy, and we did. And to stetson's credit he played dyanmite. Now we get to THE big test, PART 2. The defense got its head on stright unlike last time and did their part. Stetston, through 3 quarters, was 13 for 22 for somethign like 140 yards, 0 TD, 0 Int, 2 fumbles. Again, questions about him couldn't be more valid.

Then we get to the 4th quarter, and he palyed out of his mind. 4 for 4. Throwing darts. 2 touchdowns to take the lead, then extend the lead to 8. We started the 4th qurater down and ended it up by 15, in large part becuase of stetson. Georgia fans are happy. We are champions.

All of THAT is correct. The staunch stet defenders are forcefully trying to make some kind of line in the sand battle against people who wnated JT to play this yera, whihc at the time was not unwarranted at all. It WAS perfectly rational to want JT to get more time since based on the results we had at the time that was rational. It WAS valid to wonder whether stetson would be able to beat an elite team and win a title game. Those thigns that happened Oct-Dec don't automatically become wrong based on what happened on 1/10. What happened was we now have NEW information to go on to form opinions. Stetson proved he could do it. That's what we all want as fans, was to win. Nobody out here on this board or anywhere is pissed that we won since it wasn't with JT. Nobody out there would be joyous if stetson had lost the title game. Yall are making that shite up to reinforce some weird war you've created yourselves.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:07 pm to
They booed Stet before the UAB game. That’s where this started.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

They booed Stet before the UAB game. That’s where this started.


no the frick they didn't.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2304 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

WG_Dawg

They booed Stet before the UAB game. That’s where this started




That's a big fricking lie. Nobody booed Stenson until after the SEC championship game.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:20 pm to
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 6Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter