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re: Right side of the OL may well average 6-7 and 340lbs
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:08 pm to Lucius Clay
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:08 pm to Lucius Clay
quote:Didn't one of those mediocre guys just get drafted?
phase out the last of Richt's mediocre OL recruits
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:12 pm to claydawg09
Cordy took a few games to adjust back to left tackle. He was great by seasons end. But the first 3 weeks had some headscratching moments.
We've had some guys out there who shouldnt have been on a top 25 college football starting rotation, though.
We've had some guys out there who shouldnt have been on a top 25 college football starting rotation, though.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 7:11 pm to deeprig9
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They are going to be too fat and slow. We need smaller more athletic linemen so we won't need the defense to keep bailing out the offense like last year. [sarcasm]
Ignore this post. Just chronicling the downward fever spiral for posterity
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:45 pm to RD Dawg
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Ben Cleveland
Cleveland was recruited by Pittman and Chaney. He was class of 2016. How is he Richt's recruit?
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:48 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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Didn't one of those mediocre guys just get drafted?
An exception doesn't make a rule. On the whole, we were lucky to get one notable offensive lineman signee every couple of years under Richt...and we especially had trouble getting elite, prototype tackles.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:55 pm to Lucius Clay
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Cleveland was recruited by Pittman and Chaney. He was class of 2016. How is he
He committed in '14...last I checked CMR was still coaching then
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247SPORTS 98NATL. RK 15OT RK 4GA RK 2
Cleveland was recruited from Stephens County (Toccoa, GA) class of 2016. He committed to Georgia on 7/19/2014. H
Posted on 8/4/18 at 10:14 pm to RD Dawg
By that standard, we could say that any signees since Smart arrived, if they happened to have also been recruited by Richt or Bobo since like 8th grade, were also Richt's recruits.
I'm not buying. Once there's a coaching change, all bets are off. Sounds to me like Cleveland would have gone to Miami in 2016 if he was truly Richt's recruit.
I'm not buying. Once there's a coaching change, all bets are off. Sounds to me like Cleveland would have gone to Miami in 2016 if he was truly Richt's recruit.
This post was edited on 8/4/18 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 8/4/18 at 10:27 pm to Lucius Clay
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to have also been recruited by Richt or Bobo since like 8th grade, were also Richt's recruits.
There's a difference between a kid committing and simply recruiting him you freaking dolt.Several held to
their '16 commits and others didn't...get it??? Others
were recruited and signed exclusivity by CKS and staff (Solomon Kindley)
Understand?
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I'm not buying.
Don't GAS what you're buying or selling...it's a freakin fact.Sure,CKS should get credit for holding down the fort but the heavy lifting was done by CMR and he was solidly committed.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 5:41 am to Lucius Clay
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Cleveland was recruited by Pittman and Chaney. He was class of 2016. How is he Richt's recruit?
Cleveland was well on his way before Chaney/Pittman got here. Pittman and Chaney started at Georgia December 12 ,2015, and Cleveland signed Feb. 2016.
I love Pittman, and actually like Chaney. I think they are both doing a good job. (Pittman a great job) But Cleveland was a Rich recruit.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 5:44 am to Lucius Clay
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An exception doesn't make a rule. On the whole, we were lucky to get one notable offensive lineman signee every couple of years under Richt...and we especially had trouble getting elite, prototype tackles.
One every couple of years? Wynn last year, and Gaillard this year.
Believe me, our OLine recruiting is off the chain and better than it was, but the entire Oline this past season came from Richt except for Thomas. The problem wan't necessarily the players as much as the coaching.
Now we are getting better players and coaching.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 5:50 am to Lucius Clay
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By that standard, we could say that any signees since Smart arrived, if they happened to have also been recruited by Richt or Bobo since like 8th grade, were also Richt's recruits.
Pretty much. I mean, Smart doesn't wait until 4 months before signing day to recruit players. There is a reason for that. It has to begin early.
This board was going crazy saying Richt left the cupboard bare and crap like that. Well, that bare cupboard formed the nucleus of our team last year.
The problem with Richt, was lack of great OLine and Dline recruiting, then developing the players we had. But a large part was developing the players and instilling a hard nosed way of playing football.
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I'm not buying. Once there's a coaching change, all bets are off. Sounds to me like Cleveland would have gone to Miami in 2016 if he was truly Richt's recruit.
You don't have to buy for something to be true. Granted when there is a coaching change you can lose some recruits, and Kirby should get credit for keeping the committed recruits. But if Cleveland committed in 2014, two full years before Richt was gone, then he was most definitely a Richt recruit. It's silly to argue otherwise.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:30 am to DawgsLife
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One every couple of years? Wynn last year, and Gaillard this year.
Believe me, our OLine recruiting is off the chain and better than it was, but the entire Oline this past season came from Richt except for Thomas. The problem wan't necessarily the players as much as the coaching.
Now we are getting better players and coaching.
Gaillard was recruited as a DL. If you are talking about recruiting OL, I don't think he fits the narrative.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:27 pm to DawgsLife
Synopsis of thread: Richt was a B+ coach who hadn't won anything of significance at UGA in far too long.
We upgraded significantly when he got booted.
Plus, the program now has its priorities straight: Winning football, not developing good Christian men.
We upgraded significantly when he got booted.
Plus, the program now has its priorities straight: Winning football, not developing good Christian men.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:06 pm to meansonny
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Gaillard was recruited as a DL. If you are talking about recruiting OL, I don't think he fits the narrative.
I understand that, but he was recognized as a better fit for the OLine by Richt's bunch and moved there, was he not? At the time I wasn't crazy about the move, but as it turns out, it was the right move.
You can spin it any way you wish, but any way you want to spin it, he was recruited by Rciht, and was moved to the OLine by Richt.
Hey, I get it. I am thrilled we have Kirby and think our OLine is going to be worlds better than it was under Richt. But you also need to give credit where credit is due.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:12 pm to Lucius Clay
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Synopsis of thread: Richt was a B+ coach who hadn't won anything of significance at UGA in far too long.
We upgraded significantly when he got booted.
I agree.
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Plus, the program now has its priorities straight: Winning football, not developing good Christian men.
Both can be done. Being a Christian and playing or coaching football at a high level are not mutually excludable.
Notable Christians:
Reggie White
Tony Dungy
Tom Landry
Ben Watson
Tim Tebow
Kurt Warner
Joe Gibbs
Bobby Bowden
Mike Singletary
Now, I am not arguing that we necessarily should have a Christian coach, but for some reason you seem to believe that being a Christian somehow hampers playing and coaching football at a high level. That is certainly not the case.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:44 pm to DawgsLife
Proselytizing a coach's personal choice of religion to a captured audience is immoral. Players should not be subjected to any of that. Players also shouldn't be subjected to a coach's political opinions. Coaches should coach and promote football.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 2:14 pm to Whiznot
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Proselytizing a coach's personal choice of religion to a captured audience is immoral.
Immoral? Hardly. But, there is no evidence that Richt did that, anyway. But, I think my objection has more to do with the inference that Christians cannot be effective as coaches and players. Maybe I misunderstood, though.
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Players should not be subjected to any of that.
Okay. Should players be subjected to coarse language and being yelled at? Probably not, but I also know that it comes part and parcel with playing sports. I've seen coaches scream, cuss at, grab face masks and twist, slap the side of helmets and kick a players seat of the pants. Should players be subjected to that?
If people are offended because a coach says "I give God all the glory." in an interview then I would say they need to buckle up, because they are going to see, hear and experience a whole lot worse when they get to practice.
quote:I'm pretty sure every one of the people on my list did exactly that.
Coaches should coach and promote football.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 2:22 pm to Whiznot
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Proselytizing a coach's personal choice of religion to a captured audience is immoral.
This place.
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