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re: Really surprised we didn't see JT yesterday. Especially in the 4th.

Posted on 10/31/21 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14024 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 6:39 pm to
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Stet has never thrown more than 21 passes in a game this season (and only did that once). JT is typically 30-40 passes per game. Monken is screaming to us, via the playcalling, that the less effective QB is currently starting.


What other things happening could be the reason for this? Be objective.
Posted by GADAWG2017
Yulee, Florida
Member since Jul 2017
672 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Plenty of game film to prove it


Stet is mobile and can extend plays. However, that doesn’t constitute throwing receivers open. So as far as staying in the pocket and calmly going through progressions, picking up blitzes, or presnap reads JT is head and shoulders above Stetson. I am all for Stet he is from an area that I know a lot of folks and I love that he has had the success he’s had. I just want a natty (I’m sure just like you do) it just seems to me we should use the guy with the most talent. I’m not there everyday to evaluate that talent and like every other fan depend on the coaches. I do have eyes to see and a good eye for the game and can tell you that if and when we run across an offense that our defense can’t stop, we are going to need a QB that can play on a higher level than Stet. If JT is not the guy, then so be it. I think Saturday showed us Stet is def not the guy and that he is a version of Bo Nix and that we need a pure passer.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1323 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 7:06 pm to
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From what I saw yesterday, he possibly is saying that Stet can throw to open receivers, but hasn’t displayed the ability to throw receivers open. It was evident yesterday when our receivers were covered and he tried to forced throws that he simply isn’t capable of making. It seemed that JT could do that when he was QB1.



Yes and no. What I'm saying is a balanced playoff team is not making all kinds of mistakes 2 minutes before the half with a QB starting his 1st game.

Bama is likely up 10/14 - 3 at half. Stet has a certain MO. He starts out well but struggles later in games. Hasn't been one instance UGA was down in the 4th and Stet led them back up.

This post was edited on 10/31/21 at 7:07 pm
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11260 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Stet has never thrown more than 21 passes in a game this season (and only did that once). JT is typically 30-40 passes per game. Monken is screaming to us, via the playcalling, that the less effective QB is currently starting.


Aw lord. Top 3 defense. Top 15 offense (with all but one of our tough games done).

Maybe just maybe the coach at practice knows better. Can we please focus on anything else??
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 8:16 pm to
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It better be option 3 or he's REALLY going to make himself the most hated man in GA if he manages to not win a natty because of having Stetson fricking Bennett in at QB in the playoffs.


What if he starts JT and we lose a game and don't make the Playoffs? Will you then say it happened because Kirby did not start Bennett? There's no real answer to the QB situation except winning everything. Same problem Mullen had before Saturday. Now Mullen is in trouble BECAUSE he changed QBs.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28163 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Same problem Mullen had before Saturday.


For fricks sake, its not close to the same "problem" or situation.
JT has a far superior and proven resume compared to Richardson and when both Stetson and JT have played in the same game (SC,Vandy)
JT was the superior QB with much better numbers and really wasn't close.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73790 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:51 pm to
Why are you so fricking angry?
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
2601 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:51 pm to
Anyone that thinks stet should be in over a healthy JT simple doesn't understand what they are watching and no point in debating it.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:53 pm to
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when both Stetson and JT have played in the same game (SC,Vandy)
JT was the superior QB with much better numbers and really wasn't close.


So you make this decision based on one game?
It doesn't matter that JT may have more talent. What matters is which QB makes the TEAM better. I don't know which does that better. But I have seen the TEAM perform well for both QBs.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34689 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 9:55 pm to
The misery Syndicate is real.

The canary in the coal mine just croaked
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28163 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:11 pm to
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So you make this decision based on one game?


One game?

I watched both start several games
and both vs the same teams.

This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14024 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:13 pm to
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Anyone that thinks stet should be in over a healthy JT simple doesn't understand what they are watching and no point in debating it.

I have a deep understanding of the game and I think it is not nearly a clear cut scenario, so.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34689 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:16 pm to
The Syndicate controls the truth. All those that disagree are undesireables
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
970 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:04 am to
UGA does NOT have a top 15 offense.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11260 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:29 am to
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UGA does NOT have a top 15 offense.


We are 15th in scoring offense and points win games. Actually only need one more than other team. Also top 5 in yards per play.

We have three of the worst defenses we will play all season coming up if stats really matter. Watch what happens to our rankings offensively.

Players support Stet and that is obv. JT isn’t ready or the best option or he would be playing.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14024 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:39 am to
When you are up by 4 scores, you shorten the game. You shorten it by running and getting 1st downs. I question a lot of y’alls football IQ.
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
2008 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:24 am to
I prefer a pure passer that can call out pre-snap adjustments and read the defense as well,but let's not kid ourselves. Our o-line play has been getting progressively worse, and Stetson has had to extend a number of plays with his legs. Florida was collapsing our pocket routinely, and getting free rushers on a lot of plays, and JT would have been either had to throw the ball away or get sacked. At this point, our o-line is the bigger liability, and I'm not sure an immobile Daniels would do anything to help.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28163 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:35 am to
quote:

have a deep understanding of the game and I think it is not nearly a clear cut scenario, so.



Don't disagree and although I preferred JT I was okay with Stetson up until last week.The two
pics were just flat out bad.They weren't tips or because he was fooled on the coverage...just bad decisions made worse by bad passes.

As much as he has improved since last year he regressed last week and it wasn't just the two ints.

Monken obviously likes to take deeps shots with this offense and if that's gonna continue,JT seems to be the better option.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14024 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:20 am to
We are gonna throw enough deep balls to keep the other guys respectful. Our offense is set up to run the ball and do play action. We take advantage of our TEs. Maybe because we are down some receivers or because they are so athletic, can block well, yet are mismatches against LBs. There were two what appear to have been bad passes and/or reads. Yet, to say “that’s his ceiling” when he turned around and threw an NFL ball to KJ clearly shows there is some strange emotional bias here. He needs to clean up and learn from those plays, there is no doubt.

If you say “he can’t throw guys open”. Go to YouTube and watch his games. If you still feel that way after, then I question your understanding of football.

If you say, “we don’t throw it enough because Bennett can’t “ pretty much every game we have been up by 2/3 scores at halftime. Throwing the ball lengthens the game and exposes you to more risk. If you can pound for 4 yards and chew clock, why would you not?
We had 4 possessions in the second half of this game. No 3 and outs. Very few passes. 2 turnovers which hurt, but both came without giving up threatening field position. There were not a lot of stats for Bennett to get in the 2nd half. 1 bad pass and one players downfield penalty that cost him a 200 game. And that 39 yard catch and run by 19.

I think one of the core issues is some of y’all want some sort of dominating air raid offense. Maybe one day we will need it, but we have yet to need it and have called plays accordingly. Play to your strengths and play smart… god bless Kirbs.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20057 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:30 am to
Excellent write up, PB. Although some won't see the truth in it.
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