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Random thoughts after two games...

Posted on 9/7/19 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 9/7/19 at 9:16 pm
1. WR clearly won't be a problem. Having the Vandy, M State, and A State lineup to start the season is doing wonders for all of these young guys. It's like we've had the luxury of a second preseason camp, complete with preseason games. Landers, Roberson, Pickens, Cager...Blalock...all good here.

2. Our tailback lineup is crazy. We've had many great backs but have we ever had a set of five like this at the same time: Swift, Herrien, White, Cook, McIntosh. White may become a monster and Cook is an amazing talent of a different sort.

3. Ditto the outside LB corps. Amazing that we kick a 5* guy off and we still have so much OLB talent that we've had to start scheming to get multiple OLBs in there at the same time.

4. Stetson Bennett is the perfect backup QB. Knows the offense inside and out, can make plays, and knows his role.

5. Looks like Trey Hill is still acclimating at Center. Replacing Galliard full-time wasn't going to be easy for anyone but he's got the tools. Not much to say about the OL overall, though. Overall talent level (not to mention size and power) is probably the best the program has had, considering the top 7-8 guys who can roll in there.

6. Seems like it's going to be awhile before we know whether our DL can go toe to toe against an offensive line that will challenge them. Is it going to be Notre Dame? Or is it not going to be until we play the likes of Auburn? Wyatt, Davis, Walker, Walthour all will continue to get better so stock should keep rising on an area that was criticized last season as a weakness.

7. Secondary was touted as incredibly deep and talented coming in, even with replacing Deandre Baker. Vandy had one great WR but seems like Notre Dame will be the first time someone is going to really be able to test the secondary with multiple threats.

8. Inside LB solid but the Monty Rice / Tae Crowder pairing doesn't scream domination. (Roquan raised the bar really high). But if Walker keeps progressing and with Dean in the wings, this group will keep trending up.

9. If Fromm stays healthy...most talented UGA team since???
This post was edited on 9/7/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted by RunLindsayRun
LaGrange | Athens
Member since Sep 2012
2727 posts
Posted on 9/7/19 at 9:27 pm to
Gotta include Nolan Smith in there. He has been a force. By year’s end he will be one of the best pass rushers in the conference.
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
1541 posts
Posted on 9/7/19 at 9:47 pm to
Nolan Smith is really a spark plug on defense, we havent had a guy bring that sort of energy in a while. You need a guy like that on D, the energy is infectious.
Posted by Pawpaw
Birmingham , al
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/7/19 at 9:48 pm to
I have followed posts all day. Many were just bad or drama. Yours is a very good post . Thank you
Posted by Bossbailey34
South carolina
Member since Aug 2018
1700 posts
Posted on 9/7/19 at 10:04 pm to
I cant wait to see how we do against better competition.
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
2276 posts
Posted on 9/7/19 at 10:08 pm to
Only 2 weeks
Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
2107 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:07 am to
So first let me say that I believe there’s a better than decent chance UGA cruises through the regular season, barring injury bug, to 12-0. For all the “Cambo” BS the barn is spouting, I don’t see their offense pulling enough horseshoes out of their arse to actually win even though their D will keep it from getting out of hand. Florida will go as far as Franks’ composure can carry them, but I don’t like their OL against the Georgia D at all. You get in his face and you know what happens. ATM and Missouri might spoil but both probably take C or worse efforts from Georgia and A efforts from the competition.
Now that that’s out of the way:

- Call me skeptical on the WR’s. The real talent is young and as a group they’re inconsistent, sloppy, and I think they’ll have a lot of problems getting open against an experienced/talented secondary.

- Lecounte played at a pretty high level for a freshman. He’a still playing about that level. No worse or better.

- The defensive line is hot and cold and it’s absolutely imperative for Clark and J Davis to stay healthy down the stretch.

- The kick and punt returners scare me.

- I hated seeing the Savage pads out for that last INT. There wasn’t anybody within 5 yards of that receiver and the ball bounced up and landed in his hands. You’ve got to celebrate luck and make those plays when they happen (too many times in the past that’s dropped), but Georgia didn’t do anything to manufacture that turnover.

- Pass blocking has been disappointing so far from the interior of the line.

- Because I don’t want to just sound like a bitch I started with the 12-0 thing and i’ll finish with positives. This is the deepest UGA team I’ve ever seen and it’s going to be very exciting watching them gel down the stretch. Right now I see a three team race in the SEC and the other two don’t look perfect either.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

- I hated seeing the Savage pads out for that last INT.


One of the scrubs. Might be the only time Brini gets noticed all season. Let him have his moment.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:22 pm to
Inconsistency with the young receivers is to be expected but with each week, they'll get better with routes and timing with Fromm will get better. I'm just glad we'll have had three games before Notre Dame comes to town. But on the whole, I like this group. Nice mix of ultra-talented youngsters (Pickens, Blaylock), experienced guys (Simmons, Cager), and guys just now on the cusp of showing out (Landers, Robertson). No question there's a ton of size and speed in this group.

I agree that I haven't seen Lecounte live up to the hype yet.

I think we agree on the defensive line. There's some young, scary good talent there but nothing yet to indicate the unit has gelled into a dominant unit. I just think they will be improved from last season.

On that last point, yeah, that play wasn't worthy of the "savage pads" but I think they were throwing a bone to a guy who is buried way down the depth chart with the elite corners and safeties we've recruited since he was signed.


My main concern about this team is having some kind of let-up and losing to someone we should have the talent edge on (example: Auburn). Beyond that, it comes down to whether we have the kind of defensive line that can disrupt against the elites (Clemson, Alabama). Pretty much every other unit seems capable of playing with anyone.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Nolan Smith is really a spark plug on defense


Roquan-type player in terms of potential to have impact on games. We need a guy like this at the inside LB position, too...hopefully it will be Dean but as folks point out, Roquan didn't show a whole lot until mid sophomore season.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

it comes down to whether we have the kind of defensive line that can disrupt against the elites (Clemson, Alabama).



Not calling you out specifically, I have heard this from others too. I think this is a false narrative that is trying to get legs, and it's unfortunate.

Defensive line has plays just like the offense does. If it's a run down, or pass down, there are guesses and reads that happen before the execution factor is even in play.

Basically, if the coaches want to stop the run, the DL plays differently than if they expect pass. So, the DL could go a whole game without a sack, but that doesn't mean they suck, it means they weren't going after the QB on every play. When you are trying to stop run, and trying to maintain the ability to move laterally, you play differently than when you are pinning your ears back to get the QB.

And more complicated, against mobile QB's, you don't necessarily want to chase him out of the pocket, you want to contain him in there and let your secondary do the work. If you go balls deep through the A-gap and the qb scrambles out to the perimeter for 18 yards, yea you created "havoc" but they just got a first down.

The DL needs to keep doing what they are doing. Don't even bother looking at the stats. They are worthless. Eye-test is best (albeit subjective) when it comes to DL play for UGA this year.

That's all I have to say about that.

This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7898 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:42 pm to
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Pawpaw


Hey Dallas, it's time for a pawpaw-off.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3019 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:59 pm to
I wish Tindall could find a way to get on the field more. He seems more aggressive and makes way more TFL than the other ILB (relative to snaps played), but must be struggling mentally. I'm still doubtful that Mark Webb is quick enough to be consistently effective in pass coverage. Bill Norton at this size looks pretty slow. Tymon Mitchell almost looked quicker than Norton.

Through two games, our OL has been called for holding 4 times, several of them of the kind that normally doesn't get called. I remember when Bama didn't get one all season. Cager got mugged on the long pass play before the ball arrived. As usual when that happens to UGA receivers, ESPN didn't say anything or show a replay but it's easy to see even on the original wide view.


DJ Daniels apparently didn't play Saturday, nor Justin Young. Not sure if they're hurt, but the injury count seems to be considerable right now.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 11:08 pm
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
3344 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:51 pm to
Just wanna say that the mass substitutions on defense look really fluid in year #2. Rotating in these different packages last year felt kinda awkward, but it seems very efficient and effective this year. Kudos to the staff.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 10:05 am to
I think the secondary is our weakest link right now. They're giving up just a couple too many receptions and CB's aren't getting heads turned enough. But that will come.

Aside from that, I don't see a hole anywhere.

I'd like to see more stunts, like the Tindall sack. Six sacks is about right vs. Murray St., but I would have liked to see more than 2 vs Vandy.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:14 am to
quote:

I'd like to see more stunts, like the Tindall sack


There was no stunt on Tindall's sack. It was a straight 4 man rush. Tindall spied the QB until he found an unabated alley to attack the QB. He just has a great burst/quickness.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:

There was no stunt on Tindall's sack. It was a straight 4 man rush. Tindall spied the QB until he found an unabated alley to attack the QB. He just has a great burst/quickness.
Weakside LB shoots the B-gap on the strongside... *shrug* looks like a stunt to me.

But whatever... do more of whatever that was because our LB's are lightning fast.
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 11:26 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:32 am to
HaydenYT highlights

14:17
Is that the play you are thinking of with this
quote:

Weakside LB shoots the B-gap on the strongside... *shrug* looks like a stunt to me.
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Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:52 am to
Yeah, that's not a stunt. Nice find by the way.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

I think the secondary is our weakest link right now. They're giving up just a couple too many receptions and CB's aren't getting heads turned enough. But that will come.


I have faith in Stokes, Lecounte, and Reed.
Questions still remain in Campbell/Daniels and Webb/Wilson for the other CB and Nickel defender.

The fact that 2 guys are in the competition for each spot makes me feel better (much like stokes stepping up to sit Campbell last season).

We will learn a lot against Notre Dame.
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