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Posted on 6/30/13 at 11:35 am to ngiff87
Posted on 6/30/13 at 11:35 am to ngiff87
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No I'm 30yrs old. One of my uncles said it around is once and daddy completely lost his cool. Cause he & my mom didn't want their kids around that type of language.
Good for you, ngiff. I mean that. You sound like an upstanding man who was raised by some pretty awesome parents. We need more people with your (and your parents') attitude around.
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Posted on 6/30/13 at 11:37 am to olddawg26
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Well I'm actually pretty biased on the matter. My parents and her and husband mike are close. I'm around her a good bit. Over at their house hanging out and stuff. But I've honestly never heard her say anything bad about anyone.
This is a pretty interesting account, honestly. I have two separate friends who have both worked with Paula Dean in producing her show, and both have indicated to me (separately) that she is a HORRIBLE person, mouth like a sailor and just generally very rude to the people working for/with her. Sounds like two different personas to me.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 1:19 pm to S1C EM
This fires me up!!!I'm 34 yrs old I remember one of my best friends growin up was a "Canadian" my dad came home and saw me playin w/ him!! He almost shite his pants!! Cuz when he grew up in north GA u didn't look at these people!! U looked the other way!! We had that conversation in my bedroom in the early 1990's!! I was hurt and offended!!
Posted on 6/30/13 at 1:25 pm to deeprig9
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N****r
I refuse to play into your ignorance
Posted on 6/30/13 at 1:46 pm to rb
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Compensating employees who "willingly" portrayed slaves in a theatrical wedding is not racism,it's capitalism.Your obviously to stupid to differentiate the two.
The employees who WILLINGLY took those jobs are idiots and only compound the problem. You're missing the point. Her ideas or those ideas she advocated were not done to give a historical account or reenacted for informational purposes. She did it for sport, laughs, and giggles; to simply perpetuate and highlight the oppression of one race over the other. She enjoyed seeing the dated imperialism of the "deep south". Some of my white brothers can empathize, but no one who calls themselves a Christian or a man of integrity would dare agree with anything she said. The man who types the meanest words doesn't always win.
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Posted on 6/30/13 at 2:06 pm to RDDAWG
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no one who calls themselves a Christian or a man of integrity would dare agree with anything she said.
Nail on the head, RD. Well stated.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 2:13 pm to RDDAWG
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She did it for sport, laughs, and giggles; to simply perpetuate and highlight the oppression of one race over the other.
How are you so certain it even happened?
Posted on 6/30/13 at 2:19 pm to RDDAWG
What's most disgraceful about the situation is the way that her sponsors and business affiliates are making a scapegoat out of her to say to the world, "Look at us! We aren't racist because we fired someone who used the N word 30 years ago! Look at us!" Such an attitude harms race relations because it tries to make simple a very complicated and difficult issue. We have replaced a legitimate conversation about racism with "We can all feel good about ourselves if we make the bad person go away." There are people on television and in public positions who are incredibly racist, but as long as they don't actually use the "N" word, we don't seem to care.
Although I am not black, I am a member of a minority group, and if I instantly wrote every single person I overheard use a certain slur, I probably wouldn't have many friends left. The fact of the matter is that 9 out of 10 people who use slurs usually don't even mean or realize what they are saying. They say stupid words out of frustration, ignorance, or for no reason at all. In my experience it's rarely out of hatred or prejudice. I would ask the person to apologize, and if it's clear they didn't mean it, I forgave them and moved on.
Finally, you cannot view someone's use of the N word in the 1980's South through today's lens. While it is never acceptable to use this word, people are a product of their environment. The environment Paula Deen lived in back then was, at best, indifferent toward the use of that word.
Although I am not black, I am a member of a minority group, and if I instantly wrote every single person I overheard use a certain slur, I probably wouldn't have many friends left. The fact of the matter is that 9 out of 10 people who use slurs usually don't even mean or realize what they are saying. They say stupid words out of frustration, ignorance, or for no reason at all. In my experience it's rarely out of hatred or prejudice. I would ask the person to apologize, and if it's clear they didn't mean it, I forgave them and moved on.
Finally, you cannot view someone's use of the N word in the 1980's South through today's lens. While it is never acceptable to use this word, people are a product of their environment. The environment Paula Deen lived in back then was, at best, indifferent toward the use of that word.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 2:50 pm to olddawg26
I have two thoughts on this topic. One, that accent, whether real or not, is horrid. There's a bitch that works in the gas station I stop at on the way to work most every morning who talks like Paula Deen and always at least twice as loud as necessary that I could happily choke the shite out of at 6:30 in the Goddamn morning. frick stop talking to me lady.
And second is I guess actually a question... did they have her on tape? If they did not, and she admitted it anyway then frick her, she deserves what she gets. Lie bitch, lie. Same problem I had with Bill Clinton. Don't ever tell the fricking truth.
And second is I guess actually a question... did they have her on tape? If they did not, and she admitted it anyway then frick her, she deserves what she gets. Lie bitch, lie. Same problem I had with Bill Clinton. Don't ever tell the fricking truth.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:31 pm to RDDAWG
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but no one who calls themselves a Christian or a man of integrity would dare agree with anything she said. The man who types the meanest words doesn't always win.
I think people are really just sick and tired of all the bullshite outrage and scare tactics used by white liberals,black nonprofits,and the network media.They are constantly looking for the white southern boogy man,and will go to great links to produce one.This whole fiasco is nothing more than a pony show when compared to the shite that really matters.I've no reason to disagree with a word she uttered. I'm waiting to see the same outrage bestowed to this woman exacted towards every black entertainer that uses or has used the word n.i.g.g.e.r
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Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:31 pm to RDDAWG
Nm
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Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:35 pm to baconwaffle
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I am a member of a minority group
Absolutely everyone on the planet is a member of a minority group. There isn't a single race, religion, etc. that is anything beyond a localized majority. The only possible real majorities would be: (1) women, who slightly outnumber men worldwide, but even then, they're not exactly a unified bloc: (2) heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a pretty wide margin.
Not singling you out - just pointing out that pretty much everyone qualifies as a minority by at least one metric.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:44 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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They make great gifts for moms, aunts, mee-maws, etc
Meemaw & mom already know how to cook all that stuff - and cook it 10x as good. Most of her recipes are actually pretty bad and should not be the benchmark for which Southern Food is measured. In fact, Paula Deen was only employed by Food Network as a decoy to trick Yankees into thinking they can make Southern food too. Her firing is only another step forward in the eventual Yankee Takeover.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:45 pm to baconwaffle
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While it is never acceptable to use this word
How so? Words are inherently neutral - they simply are. Friends and family will often address each other with terms that would be insulting, for example.
Animosity can also be earned. Guys at Pearl Harbor, Holocaust survivors, etc. can be forgiven for using less-than-flattering words to describe certain folks.
The use of impolite terms can also be good in humor. Sheriff Bart's arrival in Rock Ridge in Blazing Saddles is a good example. It's so over-the-top that it's funny.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:47 pm to FaCubeItches
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I am a member of a minority group
Me too. In fact, I belong to the smallest minority group on earth.
.........It's called standing on your own two feet and being AN INDIVIDUAL!
P.S. frick all of you COLLECTIVIST swine that want to impose your fricking shallow PC bullshite will on to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am an individual and will think, say, and do whatever I please. Eat shite, sheep.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:51 pm to robby1220
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did they have her on tape? If they did not, and she admitted it anyway then frick her, she deserves what she gets. Lie bitch, lie. Same problem I had with Bill Clinton. Don't ever tell the fricking truth.
"I certainly don't recall any specific instance of ever using that word, although it is possible that I may have done so in quoting someone else when discussing the turbulent events during the Civil Rights era. My friends and family followed those events closely, and there were some appalling things said during that time by people like Bull Connor. He was a very nasty man."
Done and done.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:52 pm to FinleyStreet
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In fact, Paula Deen was only employed by Food Network as a decoy to trick Yankees into thinking they can make Southern food too. Her firing is only another step forward in the eventual Yankee Takeover.
Huh? For a chick who takes her name from the tree that owns itself I ask you one question. Would you prefer to be associated with RB or RD?
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:53 pm to FinleyStreet
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Meemaw & mom already know how to cook all that stuff - and cook it 10x as good.
Of course. But, you've got to get them something for mother's day, CHristmas, birthdays, etc., right? And they don't care what you give them.....because it's wired into their DNA as moms and mee-maws to like anything that comes from YOU.
So, why not help strike a blow to PC idiots by purchasing Paula Deen products to help boost here sales amidst this idiotic assault?
Posted on 6/30/13 at 3:57 pm to cantseefade1
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Would you prefer to be associated with RB or RD?
Does anyone have their addresses?
I would like to send them BOTH some Paula Deen cookbooks.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 4:01 pm to FaCubeItches
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How so? Words are inherently neutral - they simply are.
I agree that words are inherently neutral and I agree that it's all about the context in which they are used... so I guess I should modify my original statement. But this goes back to my point that we treat single words as boogeymen, rather than confronting the more serious underlying issues. People are so scared of offending, that our culture has created this bullshite system that as long as you don't say certain words, you can't be accused of anything. While the N word might be inherently neutral, Paula Deen was wrong for using it as she did. However, she is being crucified so others can partake in a circlejerk of self-absolution. I can't tell you how many times I've seen uppity liberals give themselves a big "I'm not racist" pat-on-the-back by demonizing someone else for a verbal slip-up.
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