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Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:49 am to Fats
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:49 am to Fats
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racist undertones.
Spare me the non-sense....This is some regurgitated media spin that can't come up with a logical argument against what Trump is saying so they call him a racist. It's bullshite
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Damn, you are an angry person. It's not worth getting this mad about.
I'm not angry at all
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Student loans shouldn't be forgiven but is it criminal that most of them start at 6.9% interest. These are things I think he would fight for that most of the other candidates could give two shits about.
The fact that you start the number at 6.9 is misleading and not factual. Now, could the numbers even at 4pct interest be considered high....maybe but at the same time there was a time where these things weren't capped at all and people were paying upwards of 20pct interest rates.
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Direct Subsidized Loans
Undergraduate
4.29%
Direct Unsubsidized Loans
Undergraduate
4.29%
Direct Unsubsidized Loans
Graduate or Professional
5.84%
Direct PLUS Loans
Parents and Graduate or Professional Students
6.84%
Those are your current student loan rates set by congress. Now, I have no problem with thinking Bernie is probably an OK guy but his policies and the things he believes in are not OK and people are still willing to give him their vote knowing full well that his policies are problematic is worrisome. How do you fund the things he wants to do? The answer is....You tax....you tax anyone that can afford to pay a tax.
Here is a quote and I know no one will probably care but it's the best way to describe it...
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A country trying to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself up by the handle.
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:08 am to Fats
All of our political and socioeconomic problems are a direct result of the donor class corrupting establishment politicians and influencing national policy.
The ONLY guy that is hated by the "Establishment" is Cruz.
Trump is a donor class card carrying member with majority left leaning ideologies and a handful of super hot button right leaning ideologies that happen to be very pro-business/pro-capitalism/pro-middle class that he has latched on to so he can garner support. Trump would have run as a Democrat if Hillary wasn't his competition.
That said, building a wall between us and Mexico, repealing Obamacare, fixing our national debt and overspending problem, reducing the size and scope of federal government reach, strengthening our defense, getting back to a posture of strength in foreign policy, wiping out ISIS, and saying FU to moderate-fanatical Islam are actually things we do need.
If that's what Trump wants to do because he ran as a R instead of a D, then I'll take it. He's not my first choice, but if it's between him and Hillary or Sanders, I'll take his agenda over their leftist junk any day.
Hillary is Obama agenda 2.0, except with 10x more corruption and donor pocket lining behind it.
Sanders is simply a guy who was a leech on society until age 40, who grew up playing the victim blame game all his life, simply wanting to stick it to the rich and make life easier for those who live like he did growing up. A white-guilt crusader for victims of social injustice at the hands white privilege and those greedy capitalists. Damn the consequences to the economy and the future of this country.
Sanders would be like a eunuch in a whorehouse. Useless, ineffectual, incapable, inept, and out of his league. And worse of all, if any of his agenda did actually somehow get implemented, it would rocket our economy off the fiscal cliff at breakneck speed.
Rubio is okay, except for the fact he's a liar and would drown us in shite immigration policy and continue lining the pockets of the donor class. Why do you think the "Establishment" now loves him once Jeb bowed out?
Cruz is the only guy hated by everyone. It's too bad he's such a bible thumper and turning people off with his incessant God speak. He's easily got the best agenda in the entire bunch. But he's just not getting that across to people.
The ONLY guy that is hated by the "Establishment" is Cruz.
Trump is a donor class card carrying member with majority left leaning ideologies and a handful of super hot button right leaning ideologies that happen to be very pro-business/pro-capitalism/pro-middle class that he has latched on to so he can garner support. Trump would have run as a Democrat if Hillary wasn't his competition.
That said, building a wall between us and Mexico, repealing Obamacare, fixing our national debt and overspending problem, reducing the size and scope of federal government reach, strengthening our defense, getting back to a posture of strength in foreign policy, wiping out ISIS, and saying FU to moderate-fanatical Islam are actually things we do need.
If that's what Trump wants to do because he ran as a R instead of a D, then I'll take it. He's not my first choice, but if it's between him and Hillary or Sanders, I'll take his agenda over their leftist junk any day.
Hillary is Obama agenda 2.0, except with 10x more corruption and donor pocket lining behind it.
Sanders is simply a guy who was a leech on society until age 40, who grew up playing the victim blame game all his life, simply wanting to stick it to the rich and make life easier for those who live like he did growing up. A white-guilt crusader for victims of social injustice at the hands white privilege and those greedy capitalists. Damn the consequences to the economy and the future of this country.
Sanders would be like a eunuch in a whorehouse. Useless, ineffectual, incapable, inept, and out of his league. And worse of all, if any of his agenda did actually somehow get implemented, it would rocket our economy off the fiscal cliff at breakneck speed.
Rubio is okay, except for the fact he's a liar and would drown us in shite immigration policy and continue lining the pockets of the donor class. Why do you think the "Establishment" now loves him once Jeb bowed out?
Cruz is the only guy hated by everyone. It's too bad he's such a bible thumper and turning people off with his incessant God speak. He's easily got the best agenda in the entire bunch. But he's just not getting that across to people.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:20 pm to BeefDawg
Nobody's going to read all that.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:39 pm to BeefDawg
Beef I agree with a lot of your comments on blending socialist ideology with capatalism with respect to healthcare. I won't go as far as saying a blended model can't work, because I think it can, but Medicare for all is not the answer and not sustainable. The one point I will nitpick though is that in your example you referenced the overhead burden on the healthcare system and how reducing the reimbursements will force companies out of business. I don't disagree with the basic premise of that statement if a govt funded model were taken too far, but CMS reduction in reimbursements has done a lot of good in forcing providers and facilities towards efficiencies and increased quality of care. Also a lot of the expenses you referenced, save the supplies, are fixed which are not the majority of expense. Professional, labor, and supply, i.e. The variable costs, are the steak and potatoes on the plate. Much of the labor in healthcare is unionized and a big part of why hospitals have a hard time reducing costs in a quick way. They simply cannot do it over night due to contracts and collective bargaining. Not all of the industry uses unionized labor but many of the biggest players do and they are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to driving down costs and keeping patients being treated. It's a complex issue to be sure. It's going to take time. My $0.02.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:10 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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quote:Sanders will even live halfway through his first term. Remember during John Mccains presidential run this was a major talking point. His age was a huge problem for him in the media.
Yep, and you haven't and won't hear a peep out of the largely liberal media about it. And Republican/conservative biased outlets won't raise the issue for fear of being labeled as hateful detractors. This is why Romney ran a very mild campaign and did not raise any of the highly controversial issues regarding Obama's questionable background. The one thread that runs through all political debate whether Democrats are willing to admit it or not is that the predominately liberal progressive media (I'm talking ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC most news papers, most of Hollywood, most universities, etc.) are hugely biased in favor of liberal progressive/socialist leaning Democrat candidates. You need only look at the documented bias in the last 2 Presidential elections to confirm. Here's one of a few articles that addresses the issue: LINK
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:17 pm to GurleyGirl
Any chance Ben and Kasoch drop out now
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:47 pm to bigdawg7780
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Any chance Ben and Kasoch drop out now
It will likely happen as soon as it becomes mathematically impossible in terms of primary delegates for anyone but Trump, Rubio or Cruz to win. I favor Cruz but he's too conservative and has no shot so I see the stretch between anti-establishment Trump vs establishment Rubio. It's obviously Trump's nomination to lose unless something major happens between now and November and you can bet your arse that the liberal media will be digging hard to find something/anything to torpedo Trump.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:52 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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This is some regurgitated media spin that can't come up with a logical argument against what Trump is saying so they call him a racist. It's bullshite
What exactly is he saying that is so logical in regards to presidential policies? I fear he is gonna start WW3 with immature trash talk to world leaders, but maybe thats just an act.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 8:48 am to djsdawg
his policies are clear, it's called winning. Until your sick of it. So much winning. Just wait. You'll see.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:26 pm to djsdawg
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What exactly is he saying that is so logical in regards to presidential policies?
He has a website....Feel free to check out his stances.
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I fear he is gonna start WW3 with immature trash talk to world leaders, but maybe thats just an act.
More nonsense...Vladimir Putin has a bigger sack than Trump and I can guarantee you no one will do shite to him. Nothing wrong with having a leader that isn't afraid to say to China....look assholes, stop manipulating your fricking float and screwing us out of billions of dollars yearly. At least he has the nuts to say something about it. frick these pussy arse politicians with no sack.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:19 pm to bigdawg7780
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Any chance Ben and Kasoch drop out now
I'm pretty confident that Carson is being asked to stay in this thing by the party..... so that the GOP can present themselves as a party of "diversity" and to contrast it with the two old wrinkled white shrivs the other party has propped up this cycle. Pure political bullshite strategery to fool the masses.
As for Kasich, he knows he can't win overall, but is hanging around because he may win his home state of Ohio, and Ohio is an important state in the red vs blue bullshite parade in november, and it may land him a VP slot or some other cabin position if he can peddle his endorsement to Trump afterwarrds.
This thing is Trump's to lose.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:25 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
I want a supporter to articulate what trump has articulated rather than seeing what some paid website developer or publicist typed up for him. Trump seems like be blows a lot of hot air with little substance. You don't fear trumps loud mouthed ego wanting to push Putin too far? I think it's reasonable.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:29 pm to djsdawg
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I fear he is gonna start WW3
Nonsense. The hands-down Number ONe best thing about Trump is that he is the least likely candidate of all of them to start world war 3.
He actually talks about something called "diplomacy" if you care to listen. And fearlessly calls out the Bush crime family for their idiotic and catastrophic decisions to invade Iraq etc. He understands what those farces did to destablize that region. Hell, last night, he even refused to pick an enemy in the Israel Palestinian none-of-our-business nonsense.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 5:57 pm to Jefferson Dawg
That makes me feel better already.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 6:45 pm to djsdawg
I'm guessing that's sarcasm.
If you're worried about someone starting WW3 then, honestly, you should do the right thing and turn your back on this stink fest entirely.... and not vote at all. Because they're all interventionists to some degree. And will all cause unnecessary trouble.
That being said, it's funny that you would more be concerned about Trump, the advocate of diplomacy, more than globalist neocon puppet Rubio or phony libertarian Cruz that says he will "carpet bomb" the middle east and make the sand glow. These two pieces of shite actually think it's a campaign advantage that they can say they are bigger war-mongers than Trump. They advertise it. And blood thirsty morons froth to it.
If you're worried about someone starting WW3 then, honestly, you should do the right thing and turn your back on this stink fest entirely.... and not vote at all. Because they're all interventionists to some degree. And will all cause unnecessary trouble.
That being said, it's funny that you would more be concerned about Trump, the advocate of diplomacy, more than globalist neocon puppet Rubio or phony libertarian Cruz that says he will "carpet bomb" the middle east and make the sand glow. These two pieces of shite actually think it's a campaign advantage that they can say they are bigger war-mongers than Trump. They advertise it. And blood thirsty morons froth to it.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 9:18 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Even though I'm probably not voting Trump, he is against nation building and a no fly zone in Syria. The only other candidates that say that are Bernie and Rand. Sadly Rand is no longer running and Bernie is way too far left as far as economics and government regulation goes
Posted on 2/26/16 at 9:29 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Didn't realize the Georgia primary was actually this Tuesday already.
Seems like before we vote in Dawgsontop34's fake GSB primary, that we should at least have a fake GSB debate too.
I will agree to be the moderator.....
Marco Rubio - DawgsonTop34
Bernie Sanders - PNW
Trump - PrettyBoyFloyd
Ted Cruz - Litigator
Hillary Clinton - djsdawgs
Debate Reps for the above candidates:
Questions will begin shortly. And end sometime before the fake primary (or when people start ignoring them) Thanks.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 9:52 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Before we begin, would everyone please stand..and take off your hats for the anthem..... Thank you.
The Anthem
Posted on 2/26/16 at 10:28 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 2/26/16 at 10:52 pm to Dawgsontop34
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