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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:27 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:27 pm to dawgfan24348
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If he had acted responsibly as soon as the first case hit the states we would be in the situation
What's interesting is how the Senate Intelligence Committee was briefed about the severity of the pandemic in January. Meanwhile, Trump was listening to the CDC, who apparently downplayed the risk.
How is it possible that Senators were more informed and prepared than the president or the rest of the country?
Absolute amateur hour for the federal government and the CDC/WHO. Just a disaster at every level.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 4:28 pm
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:36 pm to grey
There is literally nothing Trump can do that his supporters would not accept. Wash it all away as liberal media bias. I don’t support him but I respected and supported his action in Iran. America has lost its ability to listen to different viewpoints.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:43 pm to baconwaffle
How old are you?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:45 pm to athens-ga
You can tell the day he got intel that changed his mind and a planned and tiered shut down of the country began.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:46 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:You do realize I wasn't talking about rona? I was saying as people get old, they die? Like all the time? Not rona related?
You do realize this thing can also kill those with asthma and other lung related issues?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:57 pm to dawgfan24348
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would be in the situation South Korea is in.
Complete garbage.
Do you have ANY idea what happens to someone in SK if they test positive? Their
govt has powers to track and quarantine that would be unthinkable in this country.
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[quote]The government was given the ability to access citizens’ credit card records, cellphone GPS data, bank records, and the wide-ranging network of security cameras.[/quote]
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During dangerous epidemics, authorities have warrantless access to the private data.
Once someone is confirmed with COVID-19, the government can retrace their movements and alert, notify, and if necessary, quarantine others who may have come into contact with them. Quarantined people are required to download a monitoring app that alerts authorities if they break isolatio
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During dangerous epidemics, authorities have warrantless access to the private data.
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The granularity of the information is impressive, if not intimidating. An individual’s movements, purchases, and images can be minutely detailed, including whether they were wearing a mask or not at a given time.
Are you freakin kidding me?
SK is a defacto surveillance state and their citizens
have ceded their individual liberty.If DJT even attempted ANY of these measures he would have been crucified.
Kudos to SK for their quick testing response but their containment policies played just as big a part of not moreso in getting the virus under control.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 5:04 pm to RD Dawg
quote:I think most of America would be completely happy giving up plenty of liberties for some perceived safety.
SK is a defacto surveillance state and their
have ceded their individual liberty.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 5:15 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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think most of America would be completely happy giving up plenty of liberties for some perceived safety
God I hope not but you might be right.I would say at least 80% of Dems would be more than happy to surrender their liberties for "safety" and the "greater good" of society.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 5:36 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:08 pm to grey
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What's interesting is how the Senate Intelligence Committee was briefed about the severity of the pandemic in January. Meanwhile, Trump was getting impeached.....
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:36 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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I think most of America would be completely happy giving up plenty of liberties for some perceived safety.
I wasnt going to post on this subject, but frick this statement. Im not even a Trump supporter, but there is a reason he is in the White House, and its because the people on each coast that think this way dont think about the masses everywhere else in the country that still have traditional and conservative values that dont want the government no where near them.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:41 pm to RD Dawg
Did I say we should copy what South Korea did? No but I'm saying if we acted fast, didn't gut the pandemic response team, and used the WHO testing kits our situation wouldn't be anywhere close to what it is now
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:43 pm to devils1854
quote:I agree. It sucks. But the most vocal part of America seems pretty happy to lose rights. We lost the right to say no to health insurance a few years ago. Most people were in favor of that.
but frick this statement
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:44 pm to devils1854
It has more to do with Trump preaching antiestablishment positions while running against the worst candidate in American history. There's a reason why voter turnout was so low in 2016. Both candidates were awful
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:47 pm to dawgfan24348
He's about to run against a man that doesn't even know where he is a lot of the time.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:01 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Somebody will tell Biden where he is. Joe will have to be reminded daily that he's not in the senate. I'm at the point of hoping coronavirus will come to our political rescue.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:22 pm to dawgfan24348
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Did I say we should copy what South Korea did?
This is your statement:
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If he had acted responsibly as soon as the first case hit the states we would be in the situation South Korea is
How in the world do we get to "be in the situation SK is in" if we don't use their
surveillance and police state tactics?
It was a huge reason for their success.
Even Germany with all their advanced testing and quick response is a over a 1,000 deaths and 80,000+ cases.
Testing only works if you're ready to warehouse and quarantine positive results and have police state powers to make sure individuals can surrender all their personal liberties.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:26 pm to Whiznot
Given our big clumsy and self serving bureaucracy I actually don’t think he’s doing too bad. Granted we didn’t jump as soon as we could but neither did anyone else (yes..except S Korea) ...and he was actually out front with banning travel from China....and the media and Dems lambasted him for it.
Calling the flu a hoax? Fake news
Defunding the CDC? Fake news
Refusing tests being offered by WHO? Fake news
So much bullshite.
Also there is some truth in the the whole impeachment sideshow being a huge distraction while this was ramping up. If the Dems spent a quarter of their energy in actually getting shite done rather than being all in against Trump we might not be as bad off.
Calling the flu a hoax? Fake news
Defunding the CDC? Fake news
Refusing tests being offered by WHO? Fake news
So much bullshite.
Also there is some truth in the the whole impeachment sideshow being a huge distraction while this was ramping up. If the Dems spent a quarter of their energy in actually getting shite done rather than being all in against Trump we might not be as bad off.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:34 pm to SquatchDawg
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Calling the flu a hoax? Fake news
He did such a poor job of communication on that point, its easy to see why many of his fan boys and haters thought he called covid a hoax.
As bad as his month of Feb was from a communication standpoint, the worst thing has had done so far may be making states compete against each other for needed supplies.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:40 pm to SquatchDawg
Look at what is happening in Europe. I guess all of those countries have awful, incompetent leadership as well.
The bottom line is China covered up the virus and lied about it's transmission levels and morbidity rate. This caused A LOT of countries to get caught flat footed. Any criticism about the speed of response by Trump and the administration is Monday morning QB BS at best. Political opportunism at worst. And it is sad because the same people that are saying Trump was too slow to react were calling him a racist for restricting travel from China.
That said, I am not sure what happened with the tests and I think criticisms around that might be warranted. But I don't know if that criticism should be directed at the CDC or the Trump administration. When the dust clears, and to be better prepared for the next one, that should be thoroughly reviewed along with every other aspect, in a detailed post action analysis.
The bottom line is China covered up the virus and lied about it's transmission levels and morbidity rate. This caused A LOT of countries to get caught flat footed. Any criticism about the speed of response by Trump and the administration is Monday morning QB BS at best. Political opportunism at worst. And it is sad because the same people that are saying Trump was too slow to react were calling him a racist for restricting travel from China.
That said, I am not sure what happened with the tests and I think criticisms around that might be warranted. But I don't know if that criticism should be directed at the CDC or the Trump administration. When the dust clears, and to be better prepared for the next one, that should be thoroughly reviewed along with every other aspect, in a detailed post action analysis.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 7:41 pm
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