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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:59 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:59 pm to Crowknowsbest
Seriously tho, how many over 40 don’t have some sort of preexisting condition ?
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:04 pm to deeprig9
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Learn new word from jungle obelisk, shout word across Great River every morning. Scratch genital.
Still waiting for your hundreds of links about the flu and ARDS. Just admit you were FOS.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:31 pm to Peter Buck
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how many over 40 don’t have some sort of preexisting condition
If you narrow 'preexisting condition' to chronic conditions (chronic diseases -- things like heart disease, diabetes, COPD, asthma, cancer, kidney disease, etc.), which is most relevant for this thread, the answer is best broken down by age group:
People age 40-54 - 50% have at least 1 condition
People age 55-64 - 70% have at least 1 condition
People over 65 - 85% have at least 1 condition
I rounded these numbers a bit but they are reasonably close.
Rates of chronic disease go way up in middle age... Ditto percentage of people with two or more chronic conditions (an even bigger risk factor for dying from something like COVID-19)
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:16 pm to Lucius Clay
There are four in Lake Oconee. One is what you would consider immune, and under respiratory assistance.
I'm concerned.
I'm concerned.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:10 am to Crowknowsbest
I’d also venture to say there are quite a few people out there who have died from the Coronavirus, but were never tested for it so they won’t be included until a later date, similar to the Swine Flu.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:26 am to djsdawg
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Influenza is associated with a high predisposition to bacterial sepsis and ARDS.
I know you weren't talking to me but that's from this article from last summer. I don't understand why you try so hard to be right when you're so often clearly wrong.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:17 am to SneakyWaff1es
This Post ranged from This is overblown and most of us have already had it TO millions will die TO this is all a scheme to harm Trump and help the Dems steal the election.
I think most of us are floating around in the middle of these extremes somewhere, but if you are like me, it is hard to find a place to land. The gray area of uncertainty is very broad and shifts often.
So I will hope for the best, try to prepare for the worst, and wish each of you safety and comfort.
I was able to April Fool my football group yesterday by telling them that the NCAA had delayed the season until further notice. Let' just hope that stays a joke and does not become prophetic.
I think most of us are floating around in the middle of these extremes somewhere, but if you are like me, it is hard to find a place to land. The gray area of uncertainty is very broad and shifts often.
So I will hope for the best, try to prepare for the worst, and wish each of you safety and comfort.
I was able to April Fool my football group yesterday by telling them that the NCAA had delayed the season until further notice. Let' just hope that stays a joke and does not become prophetic.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:24 am to Broncothor
Good attitude sir
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:51 am to Broncothor
quote:That's the best policy.
So I will hope for the best, try to prepare for the worst, and wish each of you safety and comfort.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:03 am to Dandy Lion
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One is what you would consider immune, and under respiratory assistance.
I was recently told by a doctor who will remain nameless that alot of people are going straight to tube because the regular non-tubed breather thing (I forgot what he called it) aerosolizes it and spreads it through the air, so if the patient isn't in a negative pressure chamber (there are few of those) then it's straight to intubation.
Point is: being tubed at this point doesn't mean what we used to think it meant... being tubed at this point can mean a regular mask to boost O2 would be perfectly fine but then it spreads through the ward. Something to consider when you hear about all the tubed people, particularly the younger ones. They aren't necessarily on death's door on life support like you see on TeeVee shows.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:06 am
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:35 am to deeprig9
quote:Bipap. One of the few ways this actually gets to stay in the air instead of just falling on the ground is by aerosolizing it. Bipap does just that.
regular non-tubed breather thing (I forgot what he called it) aerosolizes it and spreads it through the air,
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:07 am to SneakyWaff1es
If BPAP machines spread a mist of virus that means even more ventilators will be required. That is very bad news.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:36 am to Whiznot
It's six of one, half dozen of the other. A vent isn't always necessary for the patient and keeping intubation should be avoided when it can be. However, a bipap is more hazardous to the staff. Staff is more likely to carry it from room to room or get infected themselves.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:47 am to SneakyWaff1es
The South - Sickest part of the sickest developed nation.
We aren't as concentrated as NYC but we are in for big trouble.
More young people in the South seem to be dying from COVID-19. Why?
We aren't as concentrated as NYC but we are in for big trouble.
More young people in the South seem to be dying from COVID-19. Why?
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:26 pm to Whiznot
The south has the highest obesity rate. The south has the highest HIV concentration. The south has the highest diabetes rate.
So, a virus that kills fat diabetics with AIDS is going to kill more people in the south.
True or False?
Do we really need a full-feature spread in the Atlantic Monthly to explain this?
So, a virus that kills fat diabetics with AIDS is going to kill more people in the south.
True or False?
Do we really need a full-feature spread in the Atlantic Monthly to explain this?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:41 pm to deeprig9
People are dumb, man.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:07 pm to SneakyWaff1es
It sounds like it does something to some people that cause their immune systems to turn on their own lungs. Once they figure out the reasons for this, there may be some hope.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:21 pm to baconwaffle
We didn't vote for him for his intellectual prowess, we voted for him based on his policy platform vs his opponents policy platform.
Also I have been critizing him for several pages now.
But I will still vote for him again if he's running against a socialist.
Also I have been critizing him for several pages now.
But I will still vote for him again if he's running against a socialist.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:50 pm to baconwaffle
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Are those of you who voted for this cur happy yet? I get your urge to send "the bad black woman" packing, but this is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.
This ineptness is all over the country, but it's concentrated in specific states. We entered this with a 6 week head start then squandered it with a slow response combined with pie-in-the-sky dishonesty and simple ignorance. We just cracked 1,000 deaths in a day and we have the most cases in the world and none of that is a surprise.
How does leadership go from this is going to go away magically to 200,000 deaths is a good job? Further, how does that happen without people being angry as hell?
Even with the amazing work many people are doing, this has been an abject failure of leadership. We have the most cases and will have the most deaths in the world outside the most underdeveloped and under-resourced nations. The worst job in the world of managing this disease has been done in the United freaking States. No excuse for that.
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