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Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:22 pm to meansonny
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Every year, vaccines have varying effectiveness in preventing and shortening the flu.
I missed my flu vaccine this year as I just kept forgetting to go get it and ended up getting type A which is the weaker version of the flu and didn't want to get out of bed for 3 days. People don't take the flu serious enough and myself included because I haven't had it in years but I've learned my lesson. That shite is no joke.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:31 pm to HTDawg
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HTDawg
Now we've finally got the whole gang together.
Kneehigh
HTDawg
DJ
Whiznot
The most notorious consistent gimps in Dawgrant history.
Consistently taking the gimp angle on literally every | single | issue, whether it's sports or public health.
It's wild to me. It's like yall have secret meetings to get your stories straight, then copy/paste thoughtless bullshite, regardless of the issue at hand.
It's like you are all of a single hive mind.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:55 pm to RD Dawg
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how did you react to it back in '09?
I was a teenager back in 2009 how do you think I reacted
Also I think I'll trust the experts' research over your 5 minutes of Google search
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:59 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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I missed my flu vaccine this year as I just kept forgetting to go get it and ended up getting type A which is the weaker version of the flu and didn't want to get out of bed for 3 days. People don't take the flu serious enough and myself included because I haven't had it in years but I've learned my lesson. That shite is no joke.
My family gets the vaccine each year.
My youngest got type B (it hit during wrestling season). But after 24 hours with medicine, he was better.
Even if it doesnt prevent the flu, the vaccine helps the body fight it.
But you are right. I know people who fought type B for 2 weeks this flu season. Nasty shite.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:11 pm to meansonny
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But you are right. I know people who fought type B for 2 weeks this flu season. Nasty shite.
It's been awful this year. Everyone I know had someone in their family get it. Most of them got type A but several got type B and even the Type A variation this year put me on bed rest. I missed 3 days of work and for the next week I still felt weak and disoriented. It also weakend my immune system as I got a head cold right after which took another 3 weeks to finally stop wearing off. I was pretty much out of commission for 4 weeks from feeling normal because of Type A. Never again. I normally get my flu shot but mistakes were made. My wife is a school teacher and I have 2 school age kids so if there is something in the community it always ends up in my house.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:11 pm to deeprig9
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Educate me. I'm ready to learn.
It appears that the coronavirus is now set to grow in orders of magnitude every week.
For example, there were 100 cases last week. Now there are 1,000. Next week, we should expect ~10,000 cases. Two weeks from now, ~100,000. By the end of the month, if the growth rate remains constant, we'll see at least a million (!) new cases.
LINK
This is the same growth pattern that has shut down the entire country of Italy. Just a few weeks ago, they only had a few cases. Now hospitals are so overwhelmed, people deemed "low-priority" are simply ignored and die. And it's only getting worse.
LINK
Eventually, this will level off. But it's been estimated that anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 of all Americans will be infected by this stuff in the coming months. Taking a low estimate (70 million Americans) and assuming that a mere 5% of those become hospitalized (Italy is reporting it's as high as 20%), then 3.5 million people will put in the ICU in the following months.
LINK
The US has roughly "540,668 staffed beds and 94,837 ICU beds."
LINK
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:16 pm to grey
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For example, there were 100 cases last week. Now there are 1,000. Next week, we should expect ~10,000 cases. Two weeks from now, ~100,000. By the end of the month, if the growth rate remains constant, we'll see at least a million (!) new cases.
Viruses spread
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This is the same growth pattern that has shut down the entire country of Italy. Just a few weeks ago, they only had a few cases. Now hospitals are so overwhelmed, people deemed "low-priority" are simply ignored and die. And it's only getting worse.
Type L of the Corona virus isn't nearly as widespread as Type S. Type L is the much more severe version. People with mild symtpons shouldn't be running to the hospital and overwhelming them.
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Eventually, this will level off. But it's been estimated that anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 of all Americans will be infected by this stuff in the coming months. Taking a low estimate (70 million Americans) and assuming that a mere 5% of those become hospitalized (Italy is reporting it's as high as 20%), then 3.5 million people will put in the ICU in the following months.
Possibly but most of them will get the weaker strain. Type L is the strain that is much more servere and requires hospitalization. Again, most people that get the virus won't need to be hospitalized.
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The US has roughly "540,668 staffed beds and 94,837 ICU beds."
American can handle it
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:17 pm to grey
There are a few major differences between the US and Italy.
I'm not sure why Italy would be a benchmark for what can happen in the US.
Italians hug and kiss at each greeting.
Americans will be "attempting" a 2 meter safe space away from contact.
Italy is relevant. But not a forecast of what will happen in the US.
I'm not sure why Italy would be a benchmark for what can happen in the US.
Italians hug and kiss at each greeting.
Americans will be "attempting" a 2 meter safe space away from contact.
Italy is relevant. But not a forecast of what will happen in the US.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:40 pm to meansonny
Every work related event i have for the next 6 weeks cancelled in the last 48 hours . Only 2 weeks were Europe. The rest were in the US and most had sent out emails recently saying they were still on.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:48 pm to meansonny
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Italy is relevant. But not a forecast of what will happen in the US.
Spain, France, and Germany are right behind the Italians, and will be interesting to watch them adapt. All have similar population sizes/densities and relatively advanced healthcare systems. They are about a week away until they're at current Italian levels...
LINK
Posted on 3/12/20 at 12:28 am to grey
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For example, there were 100 cases last week. Now there are 1,000. Next week, we should expect ~10,000 cases. Two weeks from now, ~100,000. By the end of the month, if the growth rate remains constant, we'll see at least a million (!) new cases
There are more cases because more people are being tested.I mean,100,000 could test positive but the number won't be close who get extremely ill and or hospitalized.
March 19 will mark 2 months since the first diagnosed case and we already had an estimated million cases of H1N1 by then
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On June 25, the CDC released information revealing that there were more than likely over one million (1,000,000) cases of the disease in the US, most of which had not been reported or diagnosed.[122][123]
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This is the same growth pattern that has shut down the entire country of Italy
Why do you continually point to Italy instead of Germany,England or France?
The average age of Italy is 10 years high than the US and 23% of the population is over 65 compared to 16% for the US.So about 32% higher than the US.
LINK
They also have higher influenza mortality rates for the elderly than other European countries LINK
Italy is about the last developed or Western country where you wanna be elderly and sick.
The US won't come close to their CV-19 mortality rate or just as important,their hospilization rate.IMO.
257,000 were hospitalized for H1N1 in the 9 month period in 2009 and depending on who you believe as far as the number of cases, a hospitalization rate of between 0.45% (low end) 0.95 to 1.2% (high end) and H1N1 also hit a far wider array of age demographics.
We simply have alot of incomplete data to determine hospitalization rates.
The next 2 weeks should give us a much better window.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:10 am to grey
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Spain, France, and Germany
Germany has 1,966 and 3 deaths as of March 11 (0.15%)
France 1700 and 33 deaths (1.9%)
Spain 2277 and 55 deaths (2.4%)
Italy: 12,462 and 827 deaths (6.6%)
On what planet are those 3 countries "right behind" the Italians?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 6:15 am to deeprig9
The epidemiologist on Rogan said that a lot of people who are dying in Italy are in their 40s. Its not just killing old people with underlying conditions.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 7:50 am to RD Dawg
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On what planet are those 3 countries "right behind" the Italians?
You're really struggling with this exponential growth concept, huh.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:21 am to grey
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You're really struggling with this exponential growth concept, huh.
The denial of some people has been astounding. Do folks really believe that pretending this isn't getting bad is the same as preventing it from getting bad?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:48 am to grey
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You're really struggling with when comparing mortality rates.
FIFY
BTW,I'm not the one who extrapolated 100,000 cases in America in 2 weeks.
That would mean CV-19 would be growing faster here than any other country in the world including China and Italy.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 9:20 am
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:52 am to Whiznot
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Rogan said that a lot of people who are dying in Italy are in their 40s. Its not just killing old people with underlying conditions.
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According to Italy's national health institute, the average age of those who have died was 81,
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:12 am to chillmonster
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Do folks really believe that pretending this isn't getting bad
Who's doing that?
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