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Posted on 4/15/20 at 6:17 am to Lucius Clay
Posted on 4/15/20 at 6:17 am to Lucius Clay
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I've honestly wondered this about Trump, given right wing assertions that the mainstream media has been so unfair and conspiring to rile up hate against him for three years.
Seriously? You haven't noticed this?
Media Bias: TV Networks Blast Trump with 96% Negative News
Fauci to Media: Stop Trying to Pit Me Against Trump
Media and Trump bias: Not even trying to hide it anymore
Trump may have cause to complain about media bias, but it won’t help him in the end
Numbers don't lie: Media bias against Trump is entrenched, vicious, persistent
I mean I was just getting started. I could have gone on and on with articles that had studied and concluded that media bias was a real thing.
But you haven't noticed?
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 7:27 am to DawgsLife
The “China Virus” thing could not be less important. There are people dying and tens of millions unemployed. Why on Earth does anyone care about some racists taking the opportunity to be racist?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:25 am to Crowknowsbest
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The “China Virus” thing could not be less important. There are people dying and tens of millions unemployed. Why on Earth does anyone care about some racists taking the opportunity to be racist?
Not sure. You would have to ask the media that question, I guess.
I think the thing that amazes me is how they can do something, then when Trump (In this instance) does the exact same thing...it becomes racist.
It reinforces their bias to me, and tells me they have a vested interest in swaying the election. They have forgotten that news is to be reported according to facts and not served up with personal bias.
You may, or may not remember that before 2016 I was not a Trump fan. At all. I argued against him in a thread on this board.....with the hold back that I really did not like Hillary Clinton, either. I could not bring myself to vote in that election. I just couldn't.
As a whole, I think Trump has done a decent job. There are things he has done that I really, really like, and there are some things that i don't care for, too. However, I am doing a heavy lean towards Trump for 2020 right now because of the way so may people have acted.
Not to mention I think Joe Biden is awful. He seems lime a decent guy, but he just seems like someone stumbling around in the dark.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:33 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:That's the thing, it's not important at all. It's absolute nonsense.
The “China Virus” thing could not be less important. There are people dying and tens of millions unemployed. Why on Earth does anyone care about some racists taking the opportunity to be racist?
But how can you not be irked watching the media and Dems use it as a weapon to deride Trump with very serious accusations, while they've been doing it themselves? Somehow trying to blame him and claim when he says it, it's a bird whistle to assholes of the world to mistreat people.
That just isn't right. And they do it with goddamn everything. Hypocrisy and double-standards out the freaking wazoo, while doing their best to twist irrelevant mundane obscure fallacies into mounting upon mounting attacks and accusations.
And it works, too. We have people in this thread who actually think poorly of Trump for calling it the China Virus because the media convinced them he is doing something wrong by saying it.
It's evil, man. It's deceit, dishonesty, and mass manipulation of people in an attempt to indoctrinate and fabricate ideas and thinking that aren't true, valid, reasonable, or objective.
This is one of many instances of attempted brainwashing and means of modifying the public's behavior and beliefs, and it's fricking evil and wrong. And if everyone took a stand against it, maybe it would eventually be forced to stop.
Real people are making real life decisions and acting certain ways because the media and Leftist narratives have manufactured beliefs and behaviors in them with countless amounts of bullshite like this. Real beliefs, real decisions, real behaviors, and real actions. All because they were told bullshite so many times they came to believe it.
And now those actions are walking through our front doors and coming home to roost, and we're all worse off for it.
When it turns out that hundreds of millions of people had already been exposed to COVID-19 way before the media blew it up, and it turns out we went insanely overboard for something that's no deadlier than the flu, and it becomes abundantly clear that it all happened because the media and the Left wanted a recession so bad in the hopes it would ruin Trump's chances of being re-elected and this was mostly agenda-driven to spite, maybe then more people will wake up and realize how evil and depraved these people and organizations are. And how little things like "China Virus" nonsense are relevant and important in the big picture, for other reasons than the accusations and intent behind them.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:50 am to BeefDawg
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maybe then more people will wake up and realize how evil and depraved these people and organizations are
Unfortunately, I think Choice Supportive Bias will prevent this.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:56 am to DawgsLife
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But you haven't noticed?
I've noticed that some of your "sources" are biased to the other side. The Washington TImes...seriously? They don't even pretend to be an objective news source. An opinion piece by Larry O'Connor, a right wing hack who routinely bashes the NY Times and Washington Post?
Maybe the explanation is simpler: The mainstream media is harsh on Trump because he's the most corrupt President in modern times...not to mention his inability to stop lying.
Heck, even one of the articles you just cited - the one from Globe and Mail - states:
While there have been examples of media partisanship, Mr. Trump has earned the lion’s share of his negative coverage. The reporting in the great majority of instances has held up to scrutiny. Truth is not biased.
Insulting the intelligence of the public with a daily diet of cock and bull (The Washington Post has counted 18,000 false or misleading claims during the Trump presidency) would not win favourable coverage from the most neutral and objective press corps imaginable.
On the matter of his daily briefings, the usually sympathetic Wall Street Journal complained of how Mr. Trump turned them – with the country in extreme crisis – into a vanity show. The President has even taken to railing at Fox News for being insufficiently pliant.
He’s shamelessly playing the role of disinformation king and, as evidenced by his Monday performance, effective at it.
Doubtless millions of Americans watching believed at least half the hokum.
Only the media, which is, in fact, an opposition party, can hold him to account.
Sounds pretty accurate to me!
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:07 am to Lucius Clay
quote:What corruption?
because he's the most corrupt President in modern times
Is he wealthier now than he was before he became President?
Where are the receipts?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:23 am to Lucius Clay
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I've noticed that some of your "sources" are biased to the other side. The Washington TImes...seriously? They don't even pretend to be an objective news source. An opinion piece by Larry O'Connor, a right wing hack who routinely bashes the NY Times and Washington Post?
Wait...did you see the videos showing the bias?
Did you see where Fauci said they were biased?
You are calling "The Hill" biased?
The paper was founded in 1994 by Democratic power broker and New York businessman Jerry Finkelstein and Martin Tolchin, a former correspondent for The New York Times.[7]
You are calling a newspaper founded by Democrats and run by a guy from the NY Times as right leaning?
Did you read the story (4th Link) where the guy blasted Trump the entire time, then said admittedly the MSM was biased, but that fact wouldn't help Trump?
Seriously?
As for this?
While there have been examples of media partisanship, Mr. Trump has earned the lion’s share of his negative coverage. The reporting in the great majority of instances has held up to scrutiny. Truth is not biased.
You obviously glossed over the fact that this hit piece also admitted that the MSM was biased against Trump. Just not going to mention that?
I chose an intentionally biased source to PROVE that the MSM is biased. if a biased source (And most of the articles are written by biased outlets) then you KNOW the media has been biased.
Come on....even NYTimes reporters have been caught on tape admitting they are biased.
You still believe Trump was working with the Russians, don't you?
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:49 am to BeefDawg
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When it turns out that hundreds of millions of people had already been exposed to COVID-19 way before the media blew it up, and it turns out we went insanely overboard for something that's no deadlier than the flu, and it becomes abundantly clear that it all happened because the media and the Left wanted a recession so bad in the hopes it would ruin Trump's chances of being re-elected and this was mostly agenda-driven to spite, maybe then more people will wake up and realize how evil and depraved these people and organizations are. And how little things like "China Virus" nonsense are relevant and important in the big picture, for other reasons than the accusations and intent behind them.
People will not accept that all their mask sewing and virtue signalling was for absolutely jack shite. Their minds will continue to live in this jack shite world until the day they die. 50 years from now, telling their grandchildren on the front porch about the great pandemic of '20 and how it changed the world, and that's if not one single other person dies after today. It's already implanted.
All of the Nurse-Worship and prayers for the "front line" workers, all of the Quarantine Memes, all of the Face-Time birthday parties and hipster cocktail hours, people will never accept that it was all for jack shite.
Jack shite.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:49 am to Lucius Clay
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Maybe the explanation is simpler: The mainstream media is harsh on Trump because he's the most corrupt President in modern times...not to mention his inability to stop lying.
This is complete horesehit. The press loved Trump when they thought Hillary was going to beat him in a landslide. The moment that looked doubtful they started creating lies about him, starting with the Russian collusion. They started this nonsense before he even was inaugurated. The idea that the press hates him because of his lies and corruption in office is completely wrong since the presses attitude towards Trump started before he assumed office.
Here is the truth. Trump has a big mouth, but more to the point, if you attack him he attacks you right back, sometimes even more viciously. This is something the press never dealt with before. They were used to Republicans like McCain and Bush who always wanted to be above the Fray so to speak even when blatant media biases were exposed. So when Trump was attacked, he responded, and in some cases harshly, and the press has been in a tizzy and going after him every moment they can ever since.
The press created this issue when they picked sides in 2008. They have always been left leaning but in 2008 they transformed into a tool to support Obama and push Progressive ideology. Heck, former Obama admins have bragged about how they circulated daily talking points to the press to support Obama's positions.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 10:52 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 10:57 am to MacDawg
Macdawg, it started way before 2008.
Maybe you aren't old enough to remember all the day to day reporting on Bush. Solidly against him, daily. Accusations of war profiteering, accusations of war crimes, calls for the Hague, being in cahoots with all the bad people in the world and secretly starving people and funneling disease through the CIA, 9/11 was his fault because the warning signs were there, he ignored them, or he might have even wanted it to happen so he could get the Patriot Act... and on and on and on. The media was solidly behind Al Gore, and when Bush won, they accused him of stealing the election (sound familiar) in Florida, because the secretary of state was a republican, weeks and weeks of counting ballots, recounting and recounting, the media going nuts, hanging chads, etc.
I admit they've gotten worse, but this didn't just start in 2008. They've been vapid fake-newsing for a very very long time.
Maybe you aren't old enough to remember all the day to day reporting on Bush. Solidly against him, daily. Accusations of war profiteering, accusations of war crimes, calls for the Hague, being in cahoots with all the bad people in the world and secretly starving people and funneling disease through the CIA, 9/11 was his fault because the warning signs were there, he ignored them, or he might have even wanted it to happen so he could get the Patriot Act... and on and on and on. The media was solidly behind Al Gore, and when Bush won, they accused him of stealing the election (sound familiar) in Florida, because the secretary of state was a republican, weeks and weeks of counting ballots, recounting and recounting, the media going nuts, hanging chads, etc.
I admit they've gotten worse, but this didn't just start in 2008. They've been vapid fake-newsing for a very very long time.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:20 am to deeprig9
quote:I don't know. It's much easier to make a choice and stick with it when it's purely just emotional and aesthetic.
Unfortunately, I think Choice Supportive Bias will prevent this.
But shite has clearly gotten real and now many millions of people are feeling it in tangible spots, like their bank and retirement accounts, as well as daily structure and process that keeps them focused and physically continent/consistent/healthy.
The TDS idiots are too far gone their brains will never recover, and the anti-Constitutionalists/anti-Capitalists/identity politics/SJW retards were already insane with or without influence.
But those open-minded folks who haven't really paid close attention and just got bamboozled only because they're emotions were manipulated... I think there's millions in that boat.
Hell, the vast majority of racial minorities who vote Democrat simply because they think that's just what they're supposed to do, but they have zero real clue why, and they have zero concept of any real issues that effect them, are almost assuredly in that category.
40% of the voting public are listed as Independents. I can't imagine a huge swath of them aren't going to rebel against the media and the Dems once it becomes apparent that most of this shutdown and the economic crash (it's massive extent, length, and slowing to recover... all exacerbated by media and Leftwing narratives/rhetoric/data) was merely an extension of a 3+ year agenda to harm and destroy Donald Trump and his voter-base.
Usually people just stay ignorant because they consistently just get their information from the same MSM that's in lockstep to deceive and manipulate them.
But now I think they might expand their sources because of how tangible their losses have hit them. The media they usually watch is going to be saying one thing, while reality is going to be punching them in the nuts contradicting the media. And the smart ones are going to realize there's a contradiction, and a portion of them are going to try and figure out why.
We will see in November, I guess.
I hope we get to actually go to the polls. If we don't, and the election is done by mail-in ballots, we're fricked.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:22 am to BeefDawg
Damn how did I miss this comment from Beefdawg... I have never seen fibonnacci get served in such a way.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:29 am to deeprig9
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Macdawg, it started way before 2008.
2008 was when they stopped pretending and went full speed ahead as progressive tools. I remember how they treated Bush Jr and specifically the CBS Dan Rather. But it was 2008 when they just stopped even trying to hide it when they refused to vet Obama and had tingles running up their legs, etc.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:36 am to Lucius Clay
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Maybe the explanation is simpler: The mainstream media is harsh on Trump because he's the most corrupt President in modern times
I'm no fan of Trump the human being, but this is not supported by anything substantive.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:42 am to deeprig9
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People will not accept that all their mask sewing and virtue signalling was for absolutely jack shite. Their minds will continue to live in this jack shite world until the day they die. 50 years from now, telling their grandchildren on the front porch about the great pandemic of '20 and how it changed the world, and that's if not one single other person dies after today. It's already implanted.
Yup. We went from Rosie the Riveter to
Taylor the tailor....cause you wouldn't want to assume who was sewing these masks
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:56 am to deeprig9
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People will not accept that all their mask sewing and virtue signalling was for absolutely jack shite. Their minds will continue to live in this jack shite world until the day they die. 50 years from now, telling their grandchildren on the front porch about the great pandemic of '20 and how it changed the world, and that's if not one single other person dies after today. It's already implanted.
All of the Nurse-Worship and prayers for the "front line" workers, all of the Quarantine Memes, all of the Face-Time birthday parties and hipster cocktail hours, people will never accept that it was all for jack shite.
This is correct.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:11 pm to Crowknowsbest
I don't think the term China Virus is used for racist intent--I just think that the term is an attempt to externalize blame.
If the first news report claimed that the virus originated in France from people eating snails a Lot of people would call it the French virus for the same reason.
Viruses are naturally occurring organisms. Blame nature for the origination.
If the first news report claimed that the virus originated in France from people eating snails a Lot of people would call it the French virus for the same reason.
Viruses are naturally occurring organisms. Blame nature for the origination.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:17 pm to Whiznot
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Blame nature for the origination
Nature didn't take bat virus and genetically alter it using HIV and SAR to create a new weapon.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:21 pm to Broncothor
WSB with more fake news out today...
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