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re: OT- Let your state reps know how you feel
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:03 pm to baconwaffle
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:03 pm to baconwaffle
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Evidence: you yourself admitted you barely passed high school because you liked weed.
Whoa whoa whoa
Blaming the great herb... that grows naturally from the earth is a fricking no no. (I also appreciate the lab grown shite too)
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:54 pm to retooc
I said a skip slap scrapple
A skip skap skee!
Skripple skap
A nifty wrap...
a weed! WeeD!! WEED!!
A skip skap skee!
Skripple skap
A nifty wrap...
a weed! WeeD!! WEED!!
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:37 pm to athens-ga
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The worst president ever is leaving in 50 days.
The fact that someone who undoubtedly lived during the George W. Bush administration believes this is absolutely mind boggling
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:16 pm to TheXman
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George W. Bush
If folks here who support Trump come out and say they were Gore and Kerry supporters, then I will gain a newfound respect and understanding for them, and possibly Trump.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:17 pm to baconwaffle
quote:I don't know. I never said I knew the answer. I'm about as unqualified as it gets. I do, however, understand there's only so much money. The people that have it, aren't just going to start giving it to the people that don't without getting it back from somewhere. Where do you think that's going to be?
If raising the minimum wage isn’t the answer, what is?
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Punishing the poor even more than we already do,
Who is talking about punishing them? I'm talking about not handing out the monetary equivalent to a participation trophy.
quote:It's not my job to pull them all out. I help who I can, when I can.
Just because a tiny percent of a population got out of poverty without minimum wage doesn’t mean that’s true for everyone in that population.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 7:23 am to baconwaffle
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Just because a tiny percent of a population got out of poverty without minimum wage doesn’t mean that’s true for everyone in that population. We can’t expect everyone to be a superhuman and grind and claw like a demon until they get what they want. Not all folks are wired like that. Evidence: you yourself admitted you barely passed high school because you liked weed. I believe in the dignity of work, and if someone is willing to get up in the morning to do an honest day’s work, they shouldn’t be punished for it.
After the fall of Saigon, the US accepted about 130,000 immigrants from Vietnam. Thousands more followed after that. Most were poor and didn't speak English. It took them 10 years to start kicking butt. Their story is well documented. Some of them now own parts of the shrimping industry in Louisiana and Alabama.
So how did these people who came to the US with nothing and didn't know the language rise out of poverty in such a short period of time?
They started on the SAME poverty level as the people you, baconwaffle, are talking about. Yet after only being in our country a short time they rose out of poverty. In 2017, only 11% of the Vietnamese population living in the US live below the poverty line. Add to that they have higher median incomes then groups who have had the advantage of being in the US for generations, whites included.
Vietnamese success
How did this happen? The way you ramble on you makes it sound like people born poor stay poor because of where they were born in life. You said "Just because a tiny percent of a population got out of poverty without minimum wage doesn’t mean that’s true for everyone in that population." That is 100% bullshat. A large percentage of the Vietnamese got out of poverty in a short period of time. And they did it through hard work. No raising the minimum wage was needed.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:00 pm to frogtown
Cool link and very interesting.
I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison however. The Vietnamese at a minimum had a fresh start type vibe, I would guess. Where as the poor people who have been inside the country for generations start out with a, whatever we do we can't win vibe.
I do get your point and find it interesting however.
I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison however. The Vietnamese at a minimum had a fresh start type vibe, I would guess. Where as the poor people who have been inside the country for generations start out with a, whatever we do we can't win vibe.
I do get your point and find it interesting however.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:13 pm to retooc
Some enterprising young sociologist should put together a study around vibes.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:18 pm to retooc
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I'm not sure it's an apples to apples comparison however.
It's not.
The Vietnamese that came here had strong family units. They pooled their resources, lived together, didn't spend money on dumb things, made smart common sense decisions with the little money they had, until it became a lot of money for the family. The same could be said of many poor immigrants that have come here over the generations.
Guess which demo in the country does those things the least?
And guess which demo in the country it gets blamed on?
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:54 pm to deeprig9
If an American politician wants to convince people to support bad policy or political action frame it around race.
Tried and true for 150 years.
Tried and true for 150 years.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 1:55 pm
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