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re: Oklahoma’s Offense

Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:10 am to
I think we are respecting their offense more than they are respecting the speed of our front 7. He is used to running away fro, 4.8 speed DEs. Not 4.5...
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:14 am to
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I have watched OU all year and went to the OU/Ok State game. I am very confident we will dominate this team. Baker is very good but turns the ball over. If we get up early and force them to turn the ball over a couple times we will win this game. Look for the dawgs to rip through their defensive front 7 like hot knife through butter. Plus, their secondary is fricking arse.

UGA 31, OU 17

I like it.

Out of curiosity, what was your take away on their OL... they've graded out very well on PFF in general. Curious if that's more of a byproduct of just having abysmal DLs that they play against primarily or if the OL is as good as say Notre Dame's.

Anyone else feel like Oklahoma's offense at least reminds you a lot of Auburn? Better QB, not as talented RB (compared to healthy KJ)? Heavier mix of Pass v. Run, but still... just watching them feels somewhat similar. Might just be that watching the 30 minute clips speeds up the time between plays though as well... Everything is HUNH.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:30 am to
The one thing that concerns me about them is the way
they beat down Ohio State.I didn't see the game but
I know OSU has plenty of athletes on their roster and
I'm sure plenty of team speed on defense

Anybody see the game and know the particulars?
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:34 am to
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Baker is very good but turns the ball over.


He has 5 picks all year on 369 attempts... Is he turning it over on the ground?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:42 am to
I can see us being in nickel and dime packages a lot and replacing Dtackles with more speed I’d they don’t establish a run game and on passing downs.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Anybody see the game and know the particulars?


So I haven't gone back and watched just yet... I think I flipped back and forth that night but it's been a while.

Here is the 40 minute version: LINK

Going to be watching a lot of their games over the next couple of weeks... What I will say is that Ohio State did not pop off the screen in the B1G championship as much as I expected. Their front 4 on defense seem to be very good, but I was less impressed with the rest of their defense... this leads me to believe that Oklahoma was probably a bad matchup for them... Oklahoma has a ton of success throwing the short/intermediate route to talented skill players and letting them do damage. By getting rid of the ball quickly, it helps to negate the DL strength and takes advantage of what at least on the surface seem like less talented LBs and DBs... *Note* - this is just opinion based on a different game... will follow up once I get time to watch this one.
Posted by Fats
Member since Nov 2012
3316 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:50 am to
Typically the team that has better line & stronger running game (tied to line play) wins these games. Mayfield is going to make plays but we will put up a LOT of points on OU. I am excited about the matchup - I think it will be a lot of fun to watch.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:53 am to
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I can see us being in nickel and dime packages a lot and replacing Dtackles with more speed I’d they don’t establish a run game and on passing downs.

Was thinking the same thing... no reason to trot out DTs if they don't commit to the run game... and if they do, still wouldn't necessarily respond with substitutions until it becomes apparent that it's necessary.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21604 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:29 am to
I'm not sure OU's defense is as terrible as everyone thinks.

They've had some bad games, for sure, but they're just as capable of having good ones. Ohio State is a perfect example. They slowed down OSU's run game and didn't allow any big plays - similar to how we were able to stop Notre Dame.

I feel like their defense is going to come into this game with something to prove after hearing the media talk all season about how much their defense sucks.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:42 am to
Montgomery from ISU gave them a hard time and he is no where near as talented as any of our RB’s. I just can’t see them stopping our running game. Wims should have a big game as well.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:36 pm to
But Ohio State's run game is nothing like ours, imo. JT Barrett is a talented and big dude but, really, he's not a rb. It's much easier to spy Barrett on all downs than it is to defend a true power rushing game like the Dawgs have.

That said, I agree that their defense is likely not near as bad as we've been hearing. Seems most of their troubles over the season have been with tackling at the second level, not so much rushing defense.

I hope we run a lot of screens to get our playmakers in space against that questionable tackling.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:11 pm to
In situations like this, I'm always of the mind... "it's never as good as it seems and it's never as bad as it seems."

Their defense is rated pretty poorly on most of the different objective metrics within the S&P+ (highest might be 50th-ish)... it's not like we'll be playing a sisters of the poor school or anything, but they're also not anywhere near as talented as Auburn and really not even as good as Notre Dame.

I anticipate they come out better than they have been though, given how much is going to be said between now and then about the bad defenses in the Big XII. They do have one defensive player who's been relatively disruptive this year (Ogbonnia Okoronkwo - co-defensive player of the year in the Big XII).

Certainly seems like Mecole Hardman should have a healthy role in this game (see: SECCG) in addition to our backs. Our OL should be excited to go earn a shot an all you can eat pancake buffet...

I'm maybe a little more concerned with our tendency to go conservative on offense... this is a game where I feel that we can ill afford to do that. Their offense can score in a hurry and we definitely don't want to be on the wrong side of a 2 score deficit.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:24 pm to
Clemson is the closest thing OU has seen to what we're bringing to Pasadena.

Results- 40-6 and 37-17

No g-tee, but I like our chances.
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